[Theory] Reasons why Black zetsus' will is kaguya's !!

[minamoto]

you finally start using manga facts in a theory, even though most of this was already explained pretty well in the manga and you are just restating it. But alas, I read tobidara's name and gave up on reading the rest. If you would just keep that nonsense out you might begin resembling a sane human being

when me look like badass..........remember me...."

 

[Drifter2410]

No offence but after the Tobidara theory, I just thought this was another troll but this is actually half brilliant man. Great job brother! This makes sense, is plausible and is perfectly explained but alas, Tobidara won't happen as far as I know though I've had my suspicions like you about the 3 personalities of Tobi. There isn't any time for a reveal that big now. Still repping you now.

 

[Byakugan12x]

It was actually pretty good, until i saw tobidara then I stopped. Stop trying to fit him in everything. If you actually shut up about him then people would actually treat you with respect because this wasnt actually half bad.

 

[minamoto]

It was actually pretty good, until i saw tobidara then I stopped. Stop trying to fit him in everything. If you actually shut up about him then people would actually treat you with respect because this wasnt actually half bad.

Tobidara ftw!!!!

 

[IvkeNS]

what if we are in narutoverse trapped in I.T. and we're sitting and reading theories about it right now

 

[elsepa]

It really makes sense , but kishimoto often shits on logic and facts

 

[Shisho]

Black Zetsu has already stated that it is Kaguya's will, so it seems slightly irrelevant to make a topic about it. In regards to why she chose Madara over Obito, it could be that Obito only had half of Kaguya's/Hagoromo's power. Madara stated that Obito only had the chakra of Hashirama, and not of Madara. This means that Obito only has Ashura's chakra, and not Indra's. This could also be the reason as to why he has the circle/ringed staff instead of the crescent staff, since he did not inherit Indra's power and only got Ashura's.

Anways, that is my opinion as to why he had staff as he did. It also explains why Madara's staff is only single-sided. He possesses only trace amounts of Hashirama's/Ashura's power, so he does not have the TRUE power of Hagoromo, and only NEAR Hagoromo power. This would mean that Madara at his current level would be at a level above where Hagoromo was when he died/after he became the jinchuriki of the juubi. This is because Hagoromo and his brother split the Juubi's chakra, and both became jinchurikis. One might have absorbed the "body" and one the "tree" form. This is why Madara's appearance became almost exactly like Kaguya's after he absorbed the "tree" in addition to the "body" of the juubi.

Anyways, those are my thoughts in regards to this theory.

 

[Whiteknight]

None of this explains why Kaguya feels hatred in the first place. How did she start the curse, if she didn't have any problems that made her hate something?

With Indra and Ashura the cause is clear: Hagoromo chose one over the other, when both felt that they were worthy. THIS is what started the cycle of hatred, because the Senju were picked over the Uchiha.

Later with Hashirama and Madara, There are several more reasons why Madara would continue to be hateful:
1) Madara's brother was killed by Tobirama
2) Madara wanted to be Hokage, but the people chose Hashirama instead
3) Let's face it, Tobirama was a bit of a jerk.

With Sasuke and Naruto things are a bit different. Sasuke's hatred was originally towards his own brother, not Naruto. Sasuke was upset at the fact that Naruto (a loser) was gaining power more quickly than he was, but he never really had a reason to outright hate Naruto. This is why, I think, the cycle is broken: Sasuke hated his brother instead of Naruto, so that now Naruto and Sasuke can be allies.

Kaguya ate the holy fruit and became a despot. She was the most powerful and had all the power, so there was nothing for her to hate. She had two kids, probably lived a long life, and died of natural causes (hated by the people, but none of them had the power to stop her). Nothing in that life story gives her a reason to hate so strongly that her hatred would curse all future generations.

 

[Reboryushon]

This is a great theory. n1!

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[flyboyissac]

I ***king love this thread makes so much sence

 

[minamoto]

I ***king love this thread makes so much sence

thx fly...you comments are always awesome even if they dont agree with me !!!

 

[minamoto]

None of this explains why Kaguya feels hatred in the first place. How did she start the curse, if she didn't have any problems that made her hate something?

With Indra and Ashura the cause is clear: Hagoromo chose one over the other, when both felt that they were worthy. THIS is what started the cycle of hatred, because the Senju were picked over the Uchiha.

Later with Hashirama and Madara, There are several more reasons why Madara would continue to be hateful:
1) Madara's brother was killed by Tobirama
2) Madara wanted to be Hokage, but the people chose Hashirama instead
3) Let's face it, Tobirama was a bit of a jerk.

With Sasuke and Naruto things are a bit different. Sasuke's hatred was originally towards his own brother, not Naruto. Sasuke was upset at the fact that Naruto (a loser) was gaining power more quickly than he was, but he never really had a reason to outright hate Naruto. This is why, I think, the cycle is broken: Sasuke hated his brother instead of Naruto, so that now Naruto and Sasuke can be allies.

Kaguya ate the holy fruit and became a despot. She was the most powerful and had all the power, so there was nothing for her to hate. She had two kids, probably lived a long life, and died of natural causes (hated by the people, but none of them had the power to stop her). Nothing in that life story gives her a reason to hate so strongly that her hatred would curse all future generations.

my focus on this thread was on HOW CURSE OF HATRED ORIGINATED FROM KAGUYA...not why kaguya had curse of hatred...sometimes a good character can creat curse of hatred undeliberatly..kaguya wanted to eat the holly apple to spread peace..but she ended up creating the begining of the cycle of hatred and evil chakra...

however what hagoromo said about his mothers can be translated as him consediring his mom to be a villain who ate the apple to rule over the world

 

[Mattek2008]

. Nice one. Makes a lot of sense, got job!

 

[sLm]

Not this double Madara theory again. PLEASE. It was okay until that. Bye.

 

[HouKage]

Only thing is. . .that when he touched the water he showed Naruto's Transmigrant
we don't know what it showed or what end he touched the water with
when he was talking to Sasuke

 

[apple pie of doom]

Well, you make good points.

I think its fair to say Madara does indeed try to do good.
Thats why I think he'll play a role kn defeating Kaguya.

 

[goldendookie]

Stop bro just stop

there is no second madara!

the theory makes sense though

 

[minamoto]

. Nice one. Makes a lot of sense, got job!

thx a lot bro