Reason Sasuke doesn't have Shinra Tensei

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ok you solo'd my thread

Kishi put restrictions on EVERY rinnegan user. Even negato to the point that he had to use six bodies to fight. And it's been established that just because you are Edo does not mean you'll be at full power as if you were alive. Madara didn't even use all the paths, and sasuke would've negged Naruto to easily if he had all the paths. In that final fight, instead of chidori ameterasu sasuke could've shines tensei'd Naruto, preta path his rasengan, asura neg Naruto, human path when he touched Naruto, chakra rod Naruto to easy, etc. But sasuke didn't know ALL the six paths, the need was real.
 

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Shinra Tensei is derived from deva path.

Sasuke can use the most powerful technique from deva path who uses gravitacional powers.
Chibaku Tensei and even Bansho Tenin

Obvious Sasuke can use Shinra Tensei.

Obito's Rinnegan was implanted unlike Nagato he has only one.
He can't use any power

Obito can use Animal Path (Confirmed by DB), Human Path (He said he could use it) and he can use Preta Path (Absorbed Chakra from Madara) These are the only paths that's been confirmed that he's able to use.

OT: If Sasuke can use CT I don't see why he can't use ST.
 

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Has it ever occurred to people at the Rinnegan grants each wielder their own unique power, in addition to the standard a I,I ties that come with Rinnegan.

Eg

Nagato - Graviational power (Shinra Tensei/Bansho Tenin)

Madara - Meteor jutsu|Limbo

Sasuke - Space Time Ninjutsu (Amenotejikara)

Just like how the Mangekyou grants unique abilities between each user, the Rinnegan is possibly the same. It's pretty clear that nagato and Sasuke don't have Limbo. Not does Madara have Amenotejikara. And neither Sasuke not Madara have ever used Shinra Tensei.
 

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Has it ever occurred to people at the Rinnegan grants each wielder their own unique power, in addition to the standard a I,I ties that come with Rinnegan.

Eg

Nagato - Graviational power (Shinra Tensei/Bansho Tenin)

Madara - Meteor jutsu|Limbo

Sasuke - Space Time Ninjutsu (Amenotejikara)

Just like how the Mangekyou grants unique abilities between each user, the Rinnegan is possibly the same. It's pretty clear that nagato and Sasuke don't have Limbo. Not does Madara have Amenotejikara. And neither Sasuke not Madara have ever used Shinra Tensei.

Not really. That doesn't make any sense in Nagato's case seeing how they were never his eyes. Did u see Danzo use a KA that Shisui couldn't use? Or Kakashi use a type of Kamui that Obito can't if he was using the eye? It works the same way. Ppl who didn't awaken the eye gain the power's but the secret ability is only for the original users :|

Everything Nagato did is just what the the rinnegans in general can do.
 

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Has it ever occurred to people at the Rinnegan grants each wielder their own unique power, in addition to the standard a I,I ties that come with Rinnegan.

Eg

Nagato - Graviational power (Shinra Tensei/Bansho Tenin)

Madara - Meteor jutsu|Limbo

Sasuke - Space Time Ninjutsu (Amenotejikara)

Just like how the Mangekyou grants unique abilities between each user, the Rinnegan is possibly the same. It's pretty clear that nagato and Sasuke don't have Limbo. Not does Madara have Amenotejikara. And neither Sasuke not Madara have ever used Shinra Tensei.

You're correct, but wrong. When you awaken the Rinnegan, you do receive a specialized technique, but it's none of the Six Paths. Those aren't exculsive, and are available to all Rinnegan users. Amenotejikara and Limbo are special, however.
 

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Not really. That doesn't make any sense in Nagato's case seeing how they were never his eyes. Did u see Danzo use a KA that Shisui couldn't use? Or Kakashi use a type of Kamui that Obito can't if he was using the eye? It works the same way. Ppl who didn't awaken the eye gain the power's but the secret ability is only for the original users :|

Everything Nagato did is just what the the rinnegans in general can do.

Maybe, maybe not. Either way, Madara never displayed those powers, so can't be certain.

And my point still kinda stands. Sasuke and Madara both got different powers, despite both being Indra incarnates who possess Rinnegan.

Oh and Shisui has no feats so that's not really an example :(. And why are you using sharingan as examples. Rinnegan is a completely different power that works entirely different, so it's pointless comparing sharingan to Rinnegan.

So far, every Rinnegan users signature ability has never been used by another Rinnegan user. Limbo is specific to Madara, Amenotejikara is specific to Sasuke and Shinra Tensei is (by feats) specific to Nagato.

Obito didn't use bansho tenin or Shinra Tensei, especially in instances when he could have. Would've been extremely useful to him, likewise Madara, he had chances to use these techniques, especially bansho tenin. The 4th Databook says which jutsu belong to who though, if I could read it I would.
 

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Doesnt TSB require all elements and yin yang?
 

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Maybe, maybe not. Either way, Madara never displayed those powers, so can't be certain.

And my point still kinda stands. Sasuke and Madara both got different powers, despite both being Indra incarnates who possess Rinnegan.

Oh and Shisui has no feats so that's not really an example :(. And why are you using sharingan as examples. Rinnegan is a completely different power that works entirely different, so it's pointless comparing sharingan to Rinnegan.

So far, every Rinnegan users signature ability has never been used by another Rinnegan user. Limbo is specific to Madara, Amenotejikara is specific to Sasuke and Shinra Tensei is (by feats) specific to Nagato.

Obito didn't use bansho tenin or Shinra Tensei, especially in instances when he could have. Would've been extremely useful to him, likewise Madara, he had chances to use these techniques, especially bansho tenin. The 4th Databook says which jutsu belong to who though, if I could read it I would.

4th DB just says who has shown what. :|

If we went by your thinking no one has Asura path, but Nagato since he is the only one to use it.

Both Sasuke and Madara have shown access to paths which means they have the capabilities for the techniques. Whether they have the knowledge is different.
 
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You must be blind as ****. This thread is stupid I'm leaving.

EDIT: okay you found your mistake.
 
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Has it ever occurred to people at the Rinnegan grants each wielder their own unique power, in addition to the standard a I,I ties that come with Rinnegan.

Eg

Nagato - Graviational power (Shinra Tensei/Bansho Tenin)

Madara - Meteor jutsu|Limbo

Sasuke - Space Time Ninjutsu (Amenotejikara)

Just like how the Mangekyou grants unique abilities between each user, the Rinnegan is possibly the same. It's pretty clear that nagato and Sasuke don't have Limbo. Not does Madara have Amenotejikara. And neither Sasuke not Madara have ever used Shinra Tensei.

Madara already showed Gravitational power on two different ocassions, First one when he brought that Meteor down from the sky when he first appeared and when he used Chibaku Tensei like how do you miss that. Madara can use all of the Paths + Limbo same will happen with Sasuke.
 
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