Real Reason why Fukasaku said "Naruto surpassed those who came before him"

[Smd]

Re: Real Reason why Fukasaku said "Naruto surpassed those who came before him"

naruto ahead or better than minato who created the main jutsu he uses to attack?

seriously you need to stop all this BS


ot- minato is better than naruto in every way, and now that he has SM that scan is out the window

 

[iNotorious]

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That's the "only possible explanation" because you are assuming that he didn't complete the training or that he doesn't have the stuff SM comes with.

@bold: And there is no reason why he wouldn't.



lol, you saw Minato fight twice in this manga while he was alive.

-Do you think he had time to enter SM against Ay? Nope. He didn't.

-Do you think that SM was necessary against Ay or Obito? Nope. It wasn't.

Your explanation doesn't fit in the story nor is it plausible.

Well he didn't use back then when the kyuubi was attacking the leaf village (Obito controlling him), when he was with his wife, he could EASILY go into sage mode and blitz everyone right? but why didn't he used it?

 

[Minator93]

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KG soloed many non-believers U_U

 

[Enki420]

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Right, because this explanation was designed for 1st graders. He stated this prior to the explanation of Naruto's use of clones, all he had to do was look/observe Naruto's statue and his current condition for him to state he's superior.

Lol at people believing the only reason Naruto's sage mode is superior was his use of clones. That's quite ridiculous and idiotic in fact. Please reread the scans of his initial training and you'll know how ridiculous this claim exactly is. Smh fanboys nowadays

ahahahahahahahaha yeah he stated it before he explained how he used the clones, but he obviously was aware of it as he was the one who summoned the sage clone for naruto in the first place and since thats pretty much the only sage tech Minato isn't shown using i cant really see another reason he would say it.

 

[Enki420]

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Well he didn't use back then when the kyuubi was attacking the leaf village (Obito controlling him), when he was with his wife, he could EASILY go into sage mode and blitz everyone right? but why didn't he used it?

he didnt need to, he won anyways!

 

[KingHashirama]

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Disagreed big time.

I just reread.. none of the trasnslations say, "Sage mode" , they only say senjutsu... Orochimaru also possess senjutsu chakra..

 

[KidGamer65]

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Lol, I've given up trying to explain some of the BS in this manga.

Its has some sense to it, gamakichi said naruto would have to die to get SM lol.
I guess it was foreshadowed for minato after all :leaf:


I also doubt that kurama would mind.

lmao, this guy.

Well he didn't use back then when the kyuubi was attacking the leaf village (Obito controlling him), when he was with his wife, he could EASILY go into sage mode and blitz everyone right? but why didn't he used it?

It was irrelevant. Why use something that he doesn't need to use? He didn't need Sage Mode to handle Obito (As manga shows) and Sage Mode would have been useless against Kurama.

 

[Nattana]

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To sum things up.

Minato HAS Sage Mode and MUST'VE HAD it before his death, no matter how much of an asspull it is.

 

[Minator93]

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Disagreed big time.

I just reread.. none of the trasnslations say, "Sage mode" , they only say senjutsu... Orochimaru also possess senjutsu chakra..

So you're saying that Minato doesn't have Sage Mode?

To sum things up.

Minato HAS Sage Mode and MUST'VE HAD it before his death, no matter how much of an asspull it is.

Exactly.

Also KG went ham in this one

 

[AlexM123]

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No, it was an asspull. Minato has had SO MANY chances to use Sage mode. He could have saved himself from obito/kyuubi. He could have used it against Juubito. The toads should have mentioned that Minato (the fourth) trained in sage mode. PSM=PSM, so it doesn't make sense to say Naruto surpassed "them" (it makes sense only for jiraiya). Why was it stated that Jiraiya was the only personi konoha (not the only REMAINING person, but the only person period) that could use SM? It's a plothole and an asspull. Not even hating, just stating the truth.

 

[AlexM123]

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nah this absolutely retarded. I only see Minato fanboys agreeing.

this so freaking hard SMFH

 

[Enki420]

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That makes no sense, no mention of minato was made during the training and jiraiya was the only person said to have it in the whole of konoha no reference was made to minato. And in that fukasaku scan you posted, sm was not mentioned.

that only means the creator/writers(gods of the naruto universe) of the manga didn't come up with the idea until later doesn't make it impossible as fictional universes are prone to alterations and other editorial whims

 

[Enki420]

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Alive minato had no SM

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His chakra wasnt enough, he has it due to edo tensei.

well maybe the toad knew that the leaf was hidding narutos connections to the 4th and purposely didn't mention him

 

[iNotorious]

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he didnt need to, he won anyways!

He won a death scene.

It was irrelevant. Why use something that he doesn't need to use? He didn't need Sage Mode to handle Obito (As manga shows) and Sage Mode would have been useless against Kurama.

I see

 

[CDT23]

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I dont think he can use it to the extent naruto has, or has trouble keeping it up as long as Naruto since his focus goes else where like ftg. That is probably why he didnt use it against Tobi and the fox invasion.

 

[AlastorNazura17]

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Minato was way talented than Naruto U_U You're saying that it took Minato years to master perfect SM and he has no experience with it when his dumb son did it in few days?

Naruto goes in SM because his base mode is shit. Minato's base mode is Tobirama i.e. very high Hokage level. SM puts him on above that.

Minato not using SM against Obito? Well he didn't need to. And Minato is someone who doesn't do anything without a reason. Except FRS Minato pack all U_U

Minato has failed at a lot of things, gtfo. Sounds like you're a Naruto hater, bro.

Naruto may not have book smarts, but he's way smart when it comes to fights.

> Calls Naruto's base shit, when it was enough to stop Madara's Wood release against Gaara, Oonoki and the others.

 

[Sir Blades]

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The Kage Bushin was definitely the one up that made naruto's sage mode "better" than Minato's.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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> Calls Naruto's base shit, when it was enough to stop Madara's Wood release against Gaara, Oonoki and the others.

Wasn't even 'base' naruto... That naruto was heavillllyyyyy influenced by kurama's chakra. Kurama gave him a

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You have a point here, though that could mean he isn't capable of fusing SM and BM, but I doubt that.

Kurama cannot stop it. That's the worst part about it. By just seeing naruto do it, minato should've just been like "Well, shit, Let me join in". Only thing kurama can stop is fusing with ma and pa; not entering SM while in BM.

That's why I consider it an asspull since naruto had a very very very good chance where he should have used it.

TBH, kishi just retconned minato all over, it's best kishi just didn't revive him if he knew he was going to heavily nerf him just so that naruto and tobirama wouldn't get the spot light taken from them (let's be honest, minato's basically Naruto + tobirama + extra at this point).

 

[KidGamer65]

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Kurama cannot stop it. That's the worst part about it. By just seeing naruto do it, minato should've just been like "Well, shit, Let me join in". Only thing kurama can stop is fusing with ma and pa; not entering SM while in BM.

That's why I consider it an asspull since naruto had a very very very good chance where he should have used it.

TBH, kishi just retconned minato all over, it's best kishi just didn't revive him if he knew he was going to heavily nerf him just so that naruto and tobirama wouldn't get the spot light taken from them (let's be honest, minato's basically Naruto + tobirama + extra at this point).

lmao. Agreed. SM for Minato is definitely asspull of the year.

 

[Minator93]

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Minato has failed at a lot of things, gtfo. Sounds like you're a Naruto hater, bro.

Naruto may not have book smarts, but he's way smart when it comes to fights.

> Calls Naruto's base shit, when it was enough to stop Madara's Wood release against Gaara, Oonoki and the others.

Me a Naruto hater? Lol you know nothing of me and you're not cleaver to judge me by my sig

1. Minato is smarter.

2. Base Naruto is shit compared to base Minato.

The Kage Bushin was definitely the one up that made naruto's sage mode "better" than Minato's.

Indeed.

lmao. Agreed. SM for Minato is definitely asspull of the year.

Complete 180? Wasn't expected U_U