Hokage emmanuel
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WOW U MUST BE ONE HELL OF A PHISICIST TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT, RASENSHURIKEN IS STRONGER MISS LITTLE LADY:flaw:
rasenshuriken VS kirin
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there are different aspects!!!
IN SPEED = kirin>RS
IN DESTRUCTION = kirin>RS
Inner Destruction= RS>kirin
PREPARATION FACTOR = RS> KIRIN
IN SPEED = kirin>RS
IN DESTRUCTION = kirin>RS
Inner Destruction= RS>kirin
PREPARATION FACTOR = RS> KIRIN
EQUILIBRIUM
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maby....but you only get one shot with kirin...rasenshuriken 2 shots...one will do it..and when rasenshuriken is thrown it expands like it did when naruto was fighting pain....and you forgot about naruto useing senjutsu...thats even stronger than rasenshuriken and kirin,,,,,senjutsu is when naruto is in sage mode and makes bigger rasengans like the bijuu bomb and the wakusei rasengan....so either way rasenshuriken is stronger.. its not rocket science...
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MangekyouJ
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I still say this, and it's just me until I actually see it in manga form, that since Naruto can't absorb natural chakra...it's possible for him to absorb the lightning attack. Yeah it'll probably never happen cuz where the hell would all that RAW energy go? Definitely not back into chakra form. As far as everyone still saying that Kirin destroyed a mountain, IF that mountain was truly destroyed and since Sasuke AND Itachi was on that exact same mountain, wouldn't they have been destroyed too?? Does that make Kirin somewhat unreliably inaccurate?? You can thank Plot no Jutsu for that...think about the reality of Kirin if it had actually destroyed that mountain...Itachi would've won thanks to his Susanoo and there would be no Sasuke....had the Kirin destroyed the mountain like all you Kirin/Sasuke fanboys have been so stupidly believed.....but again....this is just my opinion....
MangekyouJ
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Call yourself what you will, but do you know the meaning of the word "Destroy"? Manga showed it hit the mountain, Manga showed that yes it knocked some rocks off....but IF it did DESTROY it completely, why was Sasuke still alive if he was on it also. For something to be so powerful, it sure as hell lacked in that department.
When a Rasenshuriken destroys something, or I should say hits anything (except for the third Raikage is the only exception), nothing survives. Kazaku was hit by an unmastered Rasenshuriken, it killed 2 of his lives in one shot but it was unmastered nonetheless.
Like I said, call yourself what you will, but if a technique is suppose to DESTROY anything, I'd expect it to do just that....not half ass it, Itachi had Susanoo....which explains why he survived....what's Sasuke's excuse???.......just sayin.......
I dont know how Sasuke survived and personally I dont give a shit about that - there were just so many plot shields in this manga that I no loger pay any attention to things like this. But facts are simple:
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-> Mountain was grounded.Well, its not like FRS became more powerful when Naruto mastered it, he can just throw it now.
MangekyouJ
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So in all, my point still stand and I'm not turning this into a "Big ****" contest. Everyone sees the mountain "destroyed", obviously someone doesn't know the meaning of the word. When Pain "destroyed" Konoha....NOW THAT, was destroyed...unless you were on the outside skirts which miracles do happen obviously cuz none of the main personnel got killed by the technique itself.
Point is...and again if it wasn't for plot sake, Sasuke would be dead cuz he didn't have Susanoo at the time...and he had already killed Manda (snake summoning) when he fought Deidera. So how'd he escape a guiding tech that was supposely "destroyed" this mountain. I'm not being thickheaded, just trying to justify Kirins' power other than "it destroyed a mountain" cuz that excuse it lame and played, since no one (caster or victim) died, I can't say it's more powerful.
When the Rasenshuriken hits, you'll know it...Kirin?? Rocks crumble??? I can't explain it any better than that cuz no one has died effectively from it...
Point is...and again if it wasn't for plot sake, Sasuke would be dead cuz he didn't have Susanoo at the time...and he had already killed Manda (snake summoning) when he fought Deidera. So how'd he escape a guiding tech that was supposely "destroyed" this mountain. I'm not being thickheaded, just trying to justify Kirins' power other than "it destroyed a mountain" cuz that excuse it lame and played, since no one (caster or victim) died, I can't say it's more powerful.
When the Rasenshuriken hits, you'll know it...Kirin?? Rocks crumble??? I can't explain it any better than that cuz no one has died effectively from it...
lanakau888
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Two things:
1) It was not a mountain, it was a large hill.
2) The hill was hollow, which is a lot easier to bust than something solid like an actual mountain.
It has become much more powerful.
At only 50% it destroyed 2.9 of kakuzu's hearts.
At 100% not only can it be thrown and expanded, the real difference is that it now completely vaporizes the opponent whereas the 50% left kakuzu's body in tact. Also at 100% it has been shown to easily cut through the entire canyon of stone created by chibakutensei in just 1 second, and still keep going.
piymon2008
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I dont know why you used quotation marks, it was destroyed literally, and I really dont know how someone can argue with that.
Sasuke - plot shield.
Itachi - even though he had Susanoo with Yata mirror Kirin did some damage to him.
Whatever it was, it was biggas, much bigger than FRS explosions we could see in manga.
Its not like the whole was hollow, only building at the top of it. ->
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Only, none of Pain bodies could contest with Kakuzu when it comes to body toughness ->
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Unmastered FRS ->
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Mastered FRS ->
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MangekyouJ
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I totally forgotten that part about it being hollow...agreeable, but still if Kirin which is now a guiding of lightning tech be as powerful as everyone says it is...how could anyone who's not using some sort of spiritual armor not die for it, not to mention since it kinda changed the immediate setting around it, pretty much turned a direct shot into an AoE (Area of Effect for the slow ones) and no one is as much as broke a nail.
Sure does, but even then the poll would be pointless. We can name plenty of people who has bit the dust on the Rasenshuriken....how many has Kirin killed?? Oops...that's right..NONE. A single shot of flashy lights....for those guys out there who refuse to get my point: It's all talk and no substance....
....just saying..
MangekyouJ
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You pretty much just answered your own right there with this:
Mastered FRS ->
Look who he used it against.....Third Raikage....really??
You can't argue that there was a building on top of that hill, that hill was hollow just as lunakua said.
Look we can go back and forth with this....Kirin is all flashy lights. Who has it killed? You can still try to argue the fact our proof which is in manga so you like to throw up so kindly. Stand point is that The Rasenshuriken is a more powerful jutsu. Lightning normally only needs to strike once, but if it doesn't destroy it in the first shot...think they'll get a second??
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Look who he used it against.....Third Raikage....really??
You can't argue that there was a building on top of that hill, that hill was hollow just as lunakua said.
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There is the proof it's hollow.Look we can go back and forth with this....Kirin is all flashy lights. Who has it killed? You can still try to argue the fact our proof which is in manga so you like to throw up so kindly. Stand point is that The Rasenshuriken is a more powerful jutsu. Lightning normally only needs to strike once, but if it doesn't destroy it in the first shot...think they'll get a second??
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Thought I'd throw that in there...Lightning is a devistating element....but that hill was obviously extreme hollow....I can't see lightning just up and destroy mountains like that....just saying.....
Are you kidding me? None of the links you gave proves that that hill was hollow. Obviously, buildings on top of that hill were hollow, but not hill itself.
This link proves that mastered FRS isnt more powerful than FRS that was used on Kakuzu - explosions were just as big.
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lanakau888
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?????
1)Kakuzu's body is only very durable because he utilized the douton mask so he can harden his skin. When he was hit with naruto's fuuton rasenshuriken, he didn't have that defensive ability.
2) The RS exploded because the third was too durable for it to cut through. Same with the kyuubi.
Kakuzu, especially without his doodon mask which is where his defenses come from, is tiers below the kyuubi and the third raikage in defenses.
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MangekyouJ
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You know what....this shyt is pointless. You can't tell some people anything, even if it's truth and facts. You know what that's called.....being a fanboy.
Point blank Kirin is a pointless one time shot that uses extreme amount of heat and chakra....something that Sasuke doesn't have and CAN'T to pull off alone.
This debate has gone on long enough and with considerable evidence it has proven that Kirin was nothing more than a one time shot for the plot because on a clear sunny day, he'll never be able to pull it off again....not by himself anyway. People are basing it's power on a already destroyed hollowed hill, on top of the fact that it NEVER KILLED ANYONE......
The Rasengan that Konahamaru made has a bigger body count than Kirin at this point, and yes it was one of the paths of Pain. The Rasenshuriken however has probably killed more people than there are main characters in the series.....probably.
Thus in conclude whether you fanboys beleive it or not the Rasenshuriken is without a doubt, one of the most feared jutsus' in the Naruto world. It might not be as fast as lightning....but at least we can confirm that it's killed a lot more people than Kirin.
Point blank Kirin is a pointless one time shot that uses extreme amount of heat and chakra....something that Sasuke doesn't have and CAN'T to pull off alone.
This debate has gone on long enough and with considerable evidence it has proven that Kirin was nothing more than a one time shot for the plot because on a clear sunny day, he'll never be able to pull it off again....not by himself anyway. People are basing it's power on a already destroyed hollowed hill, on top of the fact that it NEVER KILLED ANYONE......
The Rasengan that Konahamaru made has a bigger body count than Kirin at this point, and yes it was one of the paths of Pain. The Rasenshuriken however has probably killed more people than there are main characters in the series.....probably.
Thus in conclude whether you fanboys beleive it or not the Rasenshuriken is without a doubt, one of the most feared jutsus' in the Naruto world. It might not be as fast as lightning....but at least we can confirm that it's killed a lot more people than Kirin.