bro did you forget destruction of the leaf when orochimaru summoned the first and second hokage against hiruzen and he held his own if not came on top.. just saying not to mention he was old as **** and dealing with oro as well.
bro did you forget destruction of the leaf when orochimaru summoned the first and second hokage against hiruzen and he held his own if not came on top.. just saying
come on dude hebi sasuke , sick itachi defeated orochimaru negg difficulty. and this same orochimaru became the death sentence of hiruzen.
being old or young is a cry baby's excuse. If you say orochimaru had edo hokages then Hiruzen also had Enma who is as strong as hiruzen himself. hence i think it was an even battle but still hiruzen lost.
come on dude hebi sasuke , sick itachi defeated orochimaru negg difficulty. and this same orochimaru became the death sentence of hiruzen.
being old or young is a cry baby's excuse. If you say orochimaru had edo hokages then Hiruzen also had Enma who is as strong as hiruzen himself. hence i think it was an even battle but still hiruzen lost.
-_- whats your point i didnt say orochimaru alone i did say the kages where their in edo form dont put words in my mouth plz and that was after he last his ninjutsu abilities thanks to the 3rd btw loook it up. btw sasuke put him in a genjutsu not win a head on battle... not saying he cant but it hasnt happened their four feats..
Plz elaborate.
Last time I checked Minato can use FTG V1,V2 and V3. Tobirama himself said that his FTG as well as shunshin are inferior to Minato and his EDO's /WS feats aren't going to land a scar on Minato & He has no answer for boss summons.
The same manga said that Hiruzen > Hashirama as well as Tobirama and U still put them over him?
What kind of logic it is? Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage for only Minato but not for Tobirama/Hashirama because they are ur fav characters,right??
Tobirama said Minato has better shunshin, but Tobirama is by no means getting blitz'd with his reaction feats. Over-all, I think Tobirama has a better move set and more experience.
Only problem, is Manga never states Hiruzen IS the strongest hokage. It only says he was said by some to be the strongest Hokage.. However, manga does state Tobirama and Hashirama ARE the best shinobi of the leaf.
Manga also states Hiruzen was once hailed as the "god of shinobi". However, Manga then states Hashirama IS the god of shinobi, and not just for konoha, but even for people suigetsu's village.
Manga then says most people who heard about Hashirama's powers didn't believe his powers existed. =].
If you are in the dellusion that I'm using the hype to put Hiruzen over Minato.. then i suggest getting out of it.
As for the Tsunade part, if you are beyond that, no point talking about, as we determine "power" differently.
Tobirama said Minato has better shunshin, but Tobirama is by no means getting blitz'd with his reaction feats. Over-all, I think Tobirama has a better move set and more experience.
Superior has different meanings. Could mean faster, could mean diverse, etc. But Minato's FTG is only better since he can teleport more people and create barriers. Tobirama won't be at an advantage due to kunai, but he won't be at a disadvantage when Minato throws kunai everywhere.
Superior has different meanings. Could mean faster, could mean diverse, etc. But Minato's FTG is only better since he can teleport more people and create barriers. Tobirama won't be at an advantage due to kunai, but he won't be at a disadvantage when Minato throws kunai everywhere.
FTG has different speeds & Minato has different levels and ya u got a point there,Tobirama can overcome the disadvantage with marked Kunai but still Minato has the upper hand incase of speed though.
Tobirama said Minato has better shunshin, but Tobirama is by no means getting blitz'd with his reaction feats. Over-all, I think Tobirama has a better move set and more experience.
Better move set i won't say that. Minato has better shunshin, better FTG. Both could use the Hokage barrier and KBs. Tobirama has better sensing ability however, as well as suiton and edo tensei over Minato. But Minato was said to possess at least one affinity himself(would be ironic if it was suiton as well) and has frog summons, Besides this, Minato also has sealing abilities(a sealing master) and defensive barriers(Space-time or the one he wanted to use to block Kyubi), rasengan, as well as his long-name jutsu hyped to be stronger than Goju Kibaku fuda
this right here....!
edo minato is obviously too OP...!
and although alive minato lacks fire power but his speed is a lot bigger factor than people think...! and they also forget that kunai to heart will kill anybody irrespective of regeneration power...! proof: madara had to dodge tobi's hirashingiri even after possessing everything hashirama has....!
1. Hashirama. He built the leaf and influenced the entire world. On top of that, he resolved conflicts among the 5 great nations.
2. Tobirama- He made the structure behind the leaf which kind of out ways the negatives that he did.
3. Minato- Since he wasn't hokage for long, he didn't have time to really do anything policy wise. However, in his short time as hokage, he managed to defend it from one of the greatest threats it ever faced while still maintaining the balance of power between nations.
4. Tsunade- She's a good hokage, but she isn't as capable when it comes to defending the village through power. She makes up for that in healing. However, she is too lenient with rouge ninjas like Sasuke. This has already bitten back the village.
5. Hiruzen- The leaf was the most prosperous during his reign, but the flip side is that most of the leaf's current problems resulted from his reign, which is why I rank him the worst. He let 2 evil people go. He let Danzo do what he pleased, and he didn't stop Orochimaru. Both of them caused many problems to happen in the leaf.
When it comes to ability:
1. Hashirama (big shocker)
2. Minato-He's faster than Tobirama and has better FTG though the manga isn't clear in which way it's better. He also has a far better defense and has a powerful jutsu he can activate instantly(ransengan).
3.Tobirama-He has FTG, fairly decent water style, and edo tensei. Quite hax.
4. Hiruzen-Shadow clones, all 5 elements combinations, and Enma.
5. Tsunade-ridiculous strength which makes her the best at close quarters, but she only excels at just that. She also has healing abilities, but the rest of the hokages could probably outlast her.
