[Predictions] Rank them from the strongest CoA to the weakest
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Some no name marine using armament on Luffy:
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Hancock using armament on Smoker:
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Kizaru using armament on Luffy:
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Admirals using a full ranged armament barrier:
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Whitebeard using armament to stab Kuzan(Kuzan using observation+logia body manipulation to dodge):
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Jozu using armament on Kuzan:
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Izo using armament on a pistol(for it to break a steel sword):
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Garp using armament on phoenix Marco(snaping his neck and bringing him back to original form):
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Whitebeard using armament on the sword to deflect extremely hot Magma:
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Whitebeard using FBH(armament) to protect himself from extreme hot Magma(otherwise he'd have straight up died, judging by how easily it burns steel without contact
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As well as the many instances where he was practically tanking cannon balls explosions
Sengoku using armament on Luffy:
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Akainu walking slowly with FBH on:
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Vista and Marco bypassing Akainu's FBH with armament:
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Marco using armament to completely block Akainu's magma:
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Whitebeard destroying Akainu's FBH:
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And so on and so on
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You're just listing instances of Haki. I thought you were gonna actually explain how these scenes indicate that it was definitely black Haki.
Full body doesn't mean both users have the same level of Haki... Nothing Pica has done indicates his Haki strength is as strong as Vergo...so your ridiculous reasoning is irrelevant.
Not to mention it's obvious who 'you' believe has stronger haki so this debtate is quite pointless wouldn't you say...
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Do...do you think he used Armament to survive those bombs? Something he can survive because he is a Logia? Do you also think mere bombs actually broke the FBH of an Admiral?
You can imbue haki on weapons. Those bombs were obviously haki enhanced(we're talking about Whitebeard commanders trying to stop logia Akainu here) and no they didn't break through his FBH, hence he felt nothing
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1.Sabo
2.Doffy
3.Vergo/Zoro
4.Zoro/Vergo
5.Luffy
6.Smoker
7.Chinjao
8.Bellamy
9.Pica
Also Law would be number 2 if I could add him
2.Doffy
3.Vergo/Zoro
4.Zoro/Vergo
5.Luffy
6.Smoker
7.Chinjao
8.Bellamy
9.Pica
Also Law would be number 2 if I could add him
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What does Vergo have to do with this? Anyway Full Haki Pica can defeat Base Vergo and Base Vergo>Smoker and Zoro negged Full Haki Pica so obviously his Haki is more powerful than Smoker.
Smoker can't even use Full Haki :leaf:
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Well considering the only other person to show FBH other than Pica is Vergo and you are comparing both scenarios I'd say that this certainly had relevancy to Vergo. Well that's some great assumption you have there what bases do you have to say FBH Pica>Vergo? You're ABC logic is incredibly screwed up considering all of it is baseless. So because Bellamy was able to bypass Luffy's Haki that means Bellamy's Haki>Luffy's nope... not how it works.
Also I get what you're saying that in your delusional mind that because Zoro beat Pica with minimal difficulty you also believe he can beat Smoker even easier which is why it's very difficult to take this argument seriously. The only thing Pica showed that was impressive was his huge golem not his haki.
Pica's Haki featless, for all you know he might have the CoA haki strength of Tashigi and just coated his body in it. While Vergo has CoA feats of bending steel walls with just the after shocks of his attacks.
Vergo(FBH & Base) > Smoker > Pica (FBH & Base)
Yeah of course it'll look stupid to a Zoro fanboy but I'm not here to change opinions, just to state my own. Zoro hasn't defeated anyone with impressive CoA or should I say with CoA feats had Zoro did what he did to Pica to Vergo then that would be impressive.
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What Haki feats does Smoker even have? Oh, that's right, none. Meanwhile, Zoro does. Smoker couldn't even use FBH while Pica could, and Zoro's Haki is better than Pica's.
Smoker has Haki feats and considering damaging people with haki coated fists is more impressive than damaging someone with haki coated swords I'd say him sending Vergo flying with Haki punches is more than impressive than cutting someone with full body Haki I mean Zoro couldn't even do what Law did and slice Pica in half. (it's canon fact that defending against sharp objects with haki is harder than it is with blunt hits).
Pica can use FBH so what? FBH is not a measure of strength in Haki but control in haki, we haven't seen Zoro or Luffy use FBH yet we assume they have better haki than Pica...so how is this any different to assuming Smoker has better haki? Because you don't like Smoker and that he is being compared to Zoro.
End of the day you're not going to change your opinion due to being on the Zoro hype but the assumptions you are making make no sense at all.
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You realise he was sending a hakiless Vergo flying with his punches(not covering his face with hardening), yet didn't even do more damage than hakiless DJ Sanji right? How is that impressive? Also, Law cut Vergo with his df majoritarily. Zoro cut Pica with 100% haki
Where did Oda say this? Also if FBH was that unimpressive, Oda would not have used it to hype Vergo 2times(including one where it was totally unnecessary in Law's fb), he'd not as well have incorporated another fb to explain the importance of the task after Pica's defeat. Pica's haki has been hyped by both Zoro and Pica to completely block mountain cutting ability(and like you said some haki users are weak against normal cutting, so let alone to this extent). If Zoro could have cut him without haki, he'd have. Oda even had to create a fb a chapter later to put that in evidence.
I know your Smoker bias is strong, but let's be real here