[Tier] Rank the Yonkou (past and present) along with other notable characters.

[Bogard]

Yeah, so?

You know Arlong was stronger right?

 

[ssjelf]

Long story short, you realize Don Krieg was considered the most powerful pirate in East Blue?

In the east blue, last I checked non of the yonkou were in the east blue. Also robin didnt say the Revs were pirates. She made a statement saying that pirates usually dont mess with the government but there is another force that does.

 

[ssjelf]

You know Arlong was stronger right?

Was he really though, because krieg hadnt ate in like a month or something when he fought luffy.

 

[Bogard]

In the east blue, last I checked non of the yonkou were in the east blue. Also robin didnt say the Revs were pirates. She made a statement saying that pirates usually dont mess with the government but there is another force that does.

1- Krieg was considered the most powerful pirates in East Blue
2- East Blue Arlong was(considered to be) stronger

You know why? Because Krieg had a powerful armada and influence in East Blue when Arlong was individually stronger. Same thing between Mihawk and Shanks

And that force was pirate. Otherwise, there was no reason for her to say that pirates don't usually do that

 

[Venomous Cobra]

You know Arlong was stronger right?

Debatable, but even if we assume that he is(even though he is not but just for the sake of the argument) Mihawk as character has never shown any feats that can put him close to a yonko(the ones who actually has some damn feats like kaido and WB and even BB) other than the matches he had with shankes which can't really be used as an argument to prove that,since shankes was most likely not a yonko back then and neither was mihawk as strong as he is now.

Hell I personally think that Dofflamingo vs mihawk would be a pretty close match up, yet doffy was shitting himself when he heard abotu kaido

 

[Bogard]

Debatable, but even if we assume that he is(even though he is not but just for the sake of the argument) Mihawk as character has never shown any feats that can put him close to a yonko(the ones who actually has some damn feats like kaido and WB and even BB) other than the matches he had with shankes which can't really be used as an argument to prove that,since shankes was most likely not a yonko back then and neither was mihawk as strong as he is now.

Not debatable when the manga said that Arlong is individually far stronger than Krieg:

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Mihawk is stronger because he is the world strongest man and Shanks is a swordsman

Hell I personally think that Dofflamingo vs mihawk would be a pretty close match up, yet doffy was shitting himself when he heard abotu kaido

That would mean Zoro is closer to his goal than i thought

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Not debatable when the manga said that Arlong is individually far stronger than Krieg:

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But then again, it was never directly stated that mihawk is close to any yonko in terms of strength, let alone him being far stronger. This argument cannot be used relatively

Mihawk is stronger because he is the world strongest man and Shanks is a swordsman

Nothing proves he is, and nothing proves that they did fight for the title or even shankes caring about such small stuff as he's a yonko. Besides in the translation I read, the manga used the term"best" and thus strengthen my point of them talking about just swordsmanship even more.


The statement that a yonko>all other pirates also blocks your point.

That would mean Zoro is closer to his goal than i thought

He's pretty close, but I think someone is going to beat mihawk and will beat him badly to the point zoro's dream is going to be to beat that person. That person would most likely be fujitoura

 

[Bogard]

But then again, it was never directly stated that mihawk is close to any yonko in terms of strength, let alone him being far stronger. This argument cannot be used relatively

It has never been stated that the yonko are individually the 4strongest pirate and the fact that Shanks has no title(unlike Kaido or WB) to his name despite fighting the world strongest swordsman on daily basis suggest he is weaker

Nothing proves he is, and nothing proves that they did fight for the title or even shankes caring about such small stuff as he's a yonko. Besides in the translation I read, the manga used the term"best" and thus strengthen my point of them talking about just swordsmanship even more.

Just like WB is the manliest man in the world right?

The statement that a yonko>all other pirates also blocks your point.

You made this up

He's pretty close, but I think someone is going to beat mihawk and will beat him badly to the point zoro's dream is going to be to beat that person. That person would most likely be fujitoura

Nice fanfiction. No he isn't when Mihawk's casual slash from kilometer distance(and we know slashes are much weaker the greater the distance according to Zoro) is stronger than the strongest attack Zoro showed so far

 

[ssjelf]

1- Krieg was considered the most powerful pirates in East Blue
2- East Blue Arlong was(considered to be) stronger

You know why? Because Krieg had a powerful armada and influence in East Blue when Arlong was individually stronger. Same thing between Mihawk and Shanks

And that force was pirate. Otherwise, there was no reason for her to say that pirates don't usually do that

I misunderstood you but I made another post, so don't ignore it

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It has never been stated that the yonko are individually the 4strongest pirate

They aren't allied, what makes you think oda didn't mean each one of them individually?XD running in circles man

and the fact that Shanks has no title(unlike Kaido or WB) to his name despite fighting the world strongest swordsman on daily basis suggest he is weaker

This is irrelevant, You have no prove that shankes was a yonko back when he fought mihawk.

Just like WB is the manliest man in the world right?

Nope you can't measure manliness, unlike swordsmanshipXD, besides it never said" the world's best man"

You made this up

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Most powerful= more powerful than the others, or should I start some English classes now?

Nice fanfiction.

Not really you went off topic, and gave a thought.:lol
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and we know slashes are much weaker the greater the distance according to Zoro)

That's only according to zoro, mihawk's strongest slash was blocked by jozu and it was long distance so now you can drop the BS

No he isn't when Mihawk's casual slash from kilometer distance is stronger than the strongest attack Zoro showed so far

Bigger attacks=/= stronger, that's a childish logic right there.

 

[jiraiya lives]

1. WB (strongest man alive at the time)
2. Kaido (strongest pirate alive after WB's death)
3. Shanks
4. Akainu
5. Mihawk
6. Big mam
7. BB (he shouldn't be stronger than anyone above unless his growth rate is faster than the SH's on steroids )

 

[Bogard]

They aren't allied, what makes you think oda didn't mean each one of them individually?XD running in circles man

Do you even know why the yonko are considered the most powerful pirates? It's because of their sphere of influence. They control the latter half of grandline due to their multiple territories and ally and thus of course if you want to engage them, it would be ugly. Like Law said, you may not even reach their captain if you attack them with a single crew

Mihawk has never been interested in conquering territories to develop his sphere of influence(just like Dragon). He is a loner, with his shichibukai title not helping either

This is irrelevant, You have no prove that shankes was a yonko back when he fought mihawk.

It is relevant since it means that Shanks is a swordsman and despite fighting him multiple times, Mihawk retained the title

Nope you can't measure manliness, unlike swordsmanshipXD, besides it never said" the world's best man"

Just like Mihawk is the world strongest. It's the same in the raw text

His title when introduced is,

世界最強の剣士 Sekai Saikyō no Kenshi, and as you can clearly see in Raw below when is introduced they are all there.

Those characters translate to Strongest Swordsman, Saikyō in this context means strongest.

Blame the translators for continuing to make that mistake by calling him greatest, best, or whatever, it is not. Mihawk's official title is World's Strongest Swordsman.

Just for further clarification, Whitebeard when introduced has this title,

世界最強の男 Sekai Saikyō no Otoko

Here is the raw of the panel when Whitebeard was introduced.

Notice the 最強 which are in WB's title are also in the Mihawk raw when he was introduced, so WB is "Worlds Strongest Man", not "Worlds Greatest Man"

People just try to change the title because they want to deny Shanks' inferiority

That's only according to zoro, mihawk's strongest slash was blocked by jozu and it was long distance so now you can drop the BS

There are some translation that say otherwise. But even assuming, it's correct, it came from a fodder, someone who has never seen Mihawk go all out

Bigger attacks=/= stronger, that's a childish logic right there.

It shows the huge gap in their swordsmanship

 

[U mAd]

yanko's are the 4 strongest pirates.compared to a status of a yanko the world's strongest swordsman is lower.
so when shanks alredy is a yanko why would he need the status of world's strongest swordsman.mihawk may or not be yanko level but there has never been any implications of shanks being weaker then mehawk.

 

[Bogard]

yanko's are the 4 strongest pirates.compared to a status of a yanko the world's strongest swordsman is lower.
so when shanks alredy is a yanko why would he need the status of world's strongest swordsman.mihawk may or not be yanko level but there has never been any implications of shanks being weaker then mehawk.

Yonko title has never been strength related. You can match or defeat a yonko while not being a yonko, just like BB who was a shichibukai but shortly after became a yonko after conquering territories. If he didn't do that, he'd not have been considered a yonko. To become yonko, you have to conquer territories in the new world. If someone isn't interested in doing that like Mihawk, he would never become a yonko even if he is individually stronger than Whitebeard

 

[U mAd]

Yonko title has never been strength related. You can match or defeat a yonko while not being a yonko, just like BB who was a shichibukai but shortly after became a yonko after conquering territories. If he didn't do that, he'd not have been considered a yonko. To become yonko, you have to conquer territories in the new world. If someone isn't interested in doing that like Mihawk, he would never become a yonko even if he is individually stronger than Whitebeard

yeah i know that thats why i said that we dont know hi actual sgtrenth level so we dont know where he will stand if we put him in the yankos.his only feat and hype and being able to clash with a yanko(shanks)equally.this gurantees that he'll put up a fight against any yanko.t but i think that in OP verse yanko is considered a greater title then the greatest swordsman so it would make no sense that shanks take both titles even if he were stronger.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Do you even know why the yonko are considered the most powerful pirates? It's because of their sphere of influence. They control the latter half of grandline due to their multiple territories and ally and thus of course if you want to engage them, it would be ugly. Like Law said, you may not even reach their captain if you attack them with a single crew

Yes they are influential and yes their crew is part of why they are strong ,still that doesn't make the fact that they are the strongest any less true. Besides their crews aren't the ones that get called "yonko", the leaders are the yonko and thus garp was talking about them, not including their crews.

Mihawk has never been interested in conquering territories to develop his sphere of influence(just like Dragon). He is a loner, with his shichibukai title not helping either

So?we already seen that shichibukai had the power to conquer only one country, town or an island at the best, so yeah, that was mihawks potential anyway.

It is relevant since it means that Shanks is a swordsman and despite fighting him multiple times, Mihawk retained the title

They never settle it with him, so there were no winners or loser

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Just like Mihawk is the world strongest. It's the same in the raw text

His title when introduced is,

世界最強の剣士 Sekai Saikyō no Kenshi, and as you can clearly see in Raw below when is introduced they are all there.

Those characters translate to Strongest Swordsman, Saikyō in this context means strongest.

Blame the translators for continuing to make that mistake by calling him greatest, best, or whatever, it is not. Mihawk's official title is World's Strongest Swordsman.

Just for further clarification, Whitebeard when introduced has this title,

世界最強の男 Sekai Saikyō no Otoko

Here is the raw of the panel when Whitebeard was introduced.

Notice the 最強 which are in WB's title are also in the Mihawk raw when he was introduced, so WB is "Worlds Strongest Man", not "Worlds Greatest Man"

This was already noted by riker, it's just that you were keeping with the strongest man thing when we all know those 2 titles did contradict with each other

People just try to change the title because they want to deny Shanks' inferiority

1-He never lost to the so called strongest
2-you have no prove that he is only swordman.

There are some translation that say otherwise. But even assuming, it's correct, it came from a fodder, someone who has never seen Mihawk go all out

Same can be said about shankes, He clearly did avoid all the unnecessary fight unlike Mihawk who cut through his way to become the strongest. Shankes never showed any interests in the title itself as well, he just happened to fight mihawk so many times, and they never settled it

It shows the huge gap in their swordsmanship

No it doesn't. By that logic buggy dama putt buggy above shankes since shankes never showed any attack that is as big as it. smh

Yonko title has never been strength related.

It is. Garp said it is, the same shit about the word saikyo applies here

You can match or defeat a yonko while not being a yonko, just like BB who was a shichibukai but shortly after became a yonko after conquering territories.

His crew defeated WB, and therefore took over most of WB's territory. if WB was alive, that would have never happened

If he didn't do that, he'd not have been considered a yonko.

He defeated a former yonko, and had no great influence in anything other than controlling countries and towns which even shichibukai can do in the first half of the grand line, even his crew wasn't as big as the other yonko

To become yonko, you have to conquer territories in the new world.

Other yonko won't allow such a thing

If someone isn't interested in doing that like Mihawk, he would never become a yonko even if he is individually stronger than Whitebeard

Even if he was interested, his power alone wouldn't have been enough to take on armies

 

[Forbidden Tale]

1. (Old) Whitebeard
2. Shanks / Mihawk
3. Akainu
4. Kaido
5. Big Mom
6. Blackbeard

 

[Relostar Devil]

I fully understand and accept that Shanks can be revealed later to be stronger. But for now, the portrayal leans towards Mihawk or is inconclusive at best, so we go by how we choose to interpret.



1. You have no idea what the word tanks mean. If Mihawk wins any of those match-ups, it'd be extreme diff and he'd be near death.

2. Nope. Just because it has a blade doesn't make it a sword. A sword is just one type of bladed weapon. That's like saying every gun is a pistol. Mihawk and Zoro even called the knife for what it is, a knife, not a sword. Mihawk uses it as a dinner knife.

3. Mihawk and Shanks had legendary spars and battles. How could they if Mihawk is below Shanks so far, saying they're close makes you laugh? Maybe try using your words next time.

Mihawk won't be able to touch any of the younkou, and he can giving hard tym to WB will make anyone laugh.

 

[Mugiwara kun]

Kaido
Shanks
Old WB
BB
Big Mom
Mihawk