[Discussion] Rank the Espada

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The 1000 cero thing a once was cero metralleta
No, cero Metralleta have 14 ceros.

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It was easily absorbed by Ukitake.

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in this page Starrk realized that his ordinary ceros will be useless, along with Metralleta (since Ukitake already countered them) and he stated that Ukitake will not be able if he fire 1000 ceros at once.

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So no, it wasn't Cero Metralleta.
 
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No, cero Metralleta have 14 ceros.

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It was easily absorbed by Ukitake.

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in this page Starrk realized that his ordinary ceros will be useless, along with Metralleta (since Ukitake already countered them) and he stated that Ukitake will not be able if he fire 1000 ceros at once.

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So no, it wasn't Cero Metralleta.

Yea your right
 

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ranked by ability & skillset:


01 Stark- Primera -spam- offensive; its an ability! =D
02 Barragan- Arrogante haxx_
03 Zommari- Amor es le Pumpkin Magique! + Gemelos Sonido
04 Halibel- Magical girl w/ kidou-type zanpaktou, pseudo-bankai/ ftw~
05 Noitra- requips 6 long swords & his 6 arms w/ HSR
06 Ulqui- spams compressed cero javelins + HSR
07 Grim- enhanced zanjutsu & hakuda; nice combat aesthetics
08 AA- He eats dead people? Evolution + nejibana & metastica?
09 Szayel- tentacle rape & clone-ink
00 Yammy- Gonzui & gigantic bala :O


by reiatsu:

stark
barry
hali
R2 ulq
noitra
grim
zom
S.A.G.
A.A.
 
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by ability & skillset:


01 Stark- Primera -spam- offensive; its an ability! =D
02 Barragan- Arrogante haxx_
03 Zommari- Amor es le Pumpkin Magique!
04 Halibel- Magical girl/pseudo-bankai ftw~
05 Noitra- requips 6 blades~sword-arms w/HSR
06 Ulqui- spams compressed cero javelins + HSR
07 Grim- enhanced zanjutsu & hakuda; nice combat aesthetics
08 AA- He eats dead people? Evolution + nejibana & metastica?
09 Szayel- tentacle rape & clone-ink
00 Yammy- Gonzui & gigantic bala :O


by reiatsu:

stark
barry
hali
R2 ulq
noitra
grim
zom
S.A.G.
A.A.

They are ranked on skill an abilities.
 

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1. Starrk.

2. Either Barragan or Ulquiorra.

3. Either Barragan or Ulquiorra.

4. Yammy.

5. Tier Harribel.

6. Grimmjow.

7. Nnoitra.

8. Zommari.

9. Szayelapporo.

10. Aaroniero.


Starrk is easily the fastest by feats, Zommari was merely an arrogant annoyance that over extended his belief of his speed. Not only that but Starrk took on four captains without even actually giving it his all, two of which are senior captains.

Ulquiorra only seemed stronger because Hollow's/Arrancar's are weaker outside of Hueco Mundo.
There is no way in hell Ulquiorra would do as well as Starrk did against Shunsui Kyoraku and Juushiro Ukitake.

Starrk was the Primera for a reason.
 

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1. Starrk.

2. Either Barragan or Ulquiorra.

3. Either Barragan or Ulquiorra.

4. Yammy.

5. Tier Harribel.

6. Grimmjow.

7. Nnoitra.

8. Zommari.

9. Szayelapporo.

10. Aaroniero.


Starrk is easily the fastest by feats, Zommari was merely an arrogant annoyance that over extended his belief of his speed. Not only that but Starrk took on four captains without even actually giving it his all, two of which are senior captains.

Ulquiorra only seemed stronger because Hollow's/Arrancar's are weaker outside of Hueco Mundo.
There is no way in hell Ulquiorra would do as well as Starrk did against Shunsui Kyoraku and Juushiro Ukitake.

Starrk was the Primera for a reason.
Starkk barely fought with kyoraku an ukitake..ulquiorra can easily last as long as he did against them.
 

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Starkk barely fought with kyoraku an ukitake..ulquiorra can easily last as long as he did against them.
No he can't.

Starrk is faster, stronger, has more Reiastu, and is far more powerful and op.
And Starrk didn't barely fight with Kyoraku.
Sorry, but Ulquiorra isn't beating two senior captains.

Come back when Ulquiorra can take on four captains without trying while nerfed.
 

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No he can't.

Starrk is faster, stronger, has more Reiastu, and is far more powerful and op.
And Starrk didn't barely fight with Kyoraku.
Sorry, but Ulquiorra isn't beating two senior captains.

Come back when Ulquiorra can take on four captains without trying while nerfed.
Ulquiorra is stronger than him physically an who knows if starkk is really faster?

He will easily last against a shikai kyoraku aswell...an lol starkk did not beat 2 senior captains ether so what are you saying?

Well he already took on Ichigo who is captain level an completely destroyed him so having a second captain level person to help him would have been fair....an starkk did not even fight all 4 of them at once an none of them even used their full power against starkk.
 

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Ulquiorra is stronger than him physically an who knows if starkk is really faster?

He will easily last against a shikai kyoraku aswell...an lol starkk did not beat 2 senior captains ether so what are you saying?

Well he already took on Ichigo who is captain level an completely destroyed him so having a second captain level person to help him would have been fair....an starkk did not even fight all 4 of them at once an none of them even used their full power against starkk.

There's no proof of that besides Ulquiorra fighting in a place where he is enriched in more energy.

No, he wont, doesn't matter, Starrk was winning most of the fight, and had even almost forced Kyoraku to go Bankai.

That is stupid logic, anyway, Ulquiorra gets solo'd by Kyoraku in Shikai.

Yeah, so? He still took on four captains without going all out and being nerfed because he's outside Hueco Mundo. Kyoraku only beat him because he fought dirty and sneak attacks.
Kyoraku was using the full power of his Shikai, as were the other three, it doesn't matter that none of them went Bankai.
 

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There's no proof of that besides Ulquiorra fighting in a place where he is enriched in more energy.

No, he wont, doesn't matter, Starrk was winning most of the fight, and had even almost forced Kyoraku to go Bankai.

That is stupid logic, anyway, Ulquiorra gets solo'd by Kyoraku in Shikai.

Yeah, so? He still took on four captains without going all out and being nerfed because he's outside Hueco Mundo. Kyoraku only beat him because he fought dirty and sneak attacks.
Kyoraku was using the full power of his Shikai, as were the other three, it doesn't matter that none of them went Bankai.
No ulquiorra is powerful period being in hueco mondo does not increase his strenght.

Yea ulquiorra will last long against kyoraku lol see what he did to a hollow died bankai Ichigo an that's before he did his second release lol kyoraku is not going to get pass ulquiorra regeneration abilities just useing his shikai an will most likely end up losing...yea he was forcing kyoraku to go babkai because kyoraku in shikai is a close range fighter while starkk was long range.

Lol being inside or out side hueco mundo makes no difference as seen with grimmjow....he only took on 4 captains thanks to the help from wonderwiess....I know kyoraku beat him thanks to sneak attacks I'm just saying none of them used bankai if they did starkk would have been defeated much easier...everybody that starkk fought could have beat him 1on1 if they were to use bankai.
 

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No ulquiorra is powerful period being in hueco mondo does not increase his strenght.
You clearly misread the manga, Arrancar/Hollow's are naturally stronger in Hueco Mundo because of the greater gathering of spirit particles compared to the Living World.

Yea ulquiorra will last long against kyoraku lol see what he did to a hollow died bankai Ichigo an that's before he did his second release lol kyoraku is not going to get pass ulquiorra regeneration abilities just useing his shikai an will most likely end up losing...yea he was forcing kyoraku to go babkai because kyoraku in shikai is a close range fighter while starkk was long range.
Ichgio at that point of time gets shat on by Base Kyoraku. Ulquiorra has no chance in hell of even posing a threat to Shikai Kyoraku, and even Ukitake stomps.
Starrk is a mid range, long and close range combatant.

Ulquiorra can only regenerate so much, he gets destroyed.


Lol being inside or out side hueco mundo makes no difference as seen with grimmjow....he only took on 4 captains thanks to the help from wonderwiess....I know kyoraku beat him thanks to sneak attacks I'm just saying none of them used bankai if they did starkk would have been defeated much easier...everybody that starkk fought could have beat him 1on1 if they were to use bankai.
Indeed, being inside or outside of Hueco Mundo does make a difference; since when did Wonderwiess help Starrk? Lol you must've read an entirely different manga, Wonderwiess came into the picture much later.
Starrk fought those captains on his own, it was all of his own power.
Bankai or no Bankai, Starrk is still above Ulquiorra.
 

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You clearly misread the manga, Arrancar/Hollow's are naturally stronger in Hueco Mundo because of the greater gathering of spirit particles compared to the Living World.



Ichgio at that point of time gets shat on by Base Kyoraku. Ulquiorra has no chance in hell of even posing a threat to Shikai Kyoraku, and even Ukitake stomps.
Starrk is a mid range, long and close range combatant.

Ulquiorra can only regenerate so much, he gets destroyed.




Indeed, being inside or outside of Hueco Mundo does make a difference; since when did Wonderwiess help Starrk? Lol you must've read an entirely different manga, Wonderwiess came into the picture much later.
Starrk fought those captains on his own, it was all of his own power.
Bankai or no Bankai, Starrk is still above Ulquiorra.
No like I said grimmjow did not get any stronger from when he fought Ichigo in the real world to when he fought Ichigo in hueco mundo.

Yea I know he also got shat on badly by r1 ulquiorra ... Ulquiorra poses no threat to shikai kyoraku are you serious all top 4 espada were told not to use their release in heuco mundo cuz they could destroy it an you say he will pose no threat to shikai kyoraku yea ok an that's just r1 ulquiorra I'm talking bout r2 ulquiorra is a whole nother monster.


Wonderwiess took ukitake out an then that distracted kyoraku allowing starkk to take kyoraku out..starkk would have never got pass thoes 2 if not for wonderwiess an like I said he barely fought with thoes 2 before wonderwiess showed up..
 

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No like I said grimmjow did not get any stronger from when he fought Ichigo in the real world to when he fought Ichigo in hueco mundo.

Yea I know he also got shat on badly by r1 ulquiorra ... Ulquiorra poses no threat to shikai kyoraku are you serious all top 4 espada were told not to use their release in heuco mundo cuz they could destroy it an you say he will pose no threat to shikai kyoraku yea ok an that's just r1 ulquiorra I'm talking bout r2 ulquiorra is a whole nother monster.


Wonderwiess took ukitake out an then that distracted kyoraku allowing starkk to take kyoraku out..starkk would have never got pass thoes 2 if not for wonderwiess an like I said he barely fought with thoes 2 before wonderwiess showed up..
Dude, like I said before, Arrancar/Hollow's are naturally stronger in Hueco Mundo because of the greater gathering of spirit particles compared to the Living World. This is a manga fact, don't ague against the WoG.
Um, I don't know about that, Grimmjow definetly seemed stronger in Hueco Mundo. *_*
Lol.

You mean R1 Ulquiorra shat on a heavily tired (I'm pretty sure he was heavily injured as well) Ichigo :p

Shikai Kyoraku alongside Shikai Ukitake can take on old man Yamamoto in his Shikai....are you smoking something?

Yeah, Wonderwiess didn't have much of a role in their fight, besides taking out Ukitake.

Starrk did very well all things considered, not once did it appear that he'd lose to those two senior captains. He managed to take on two Vizard captains and beat them as well, so he clearly had plenty of power to spare.

R2 Ulquiorra is hard to gauge, but I'd place him at least at Barragan's level.
R2 Ulquiorra would definitely give Kyoraku quite a fight, but he'd still get stomped.
Edit: Well anyway, I'm of too bed, we can continue this conversation when I wake up, so merely reply when you can and in the morning I'll reply.
 
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Starrk is easily the fastest by feats, Zommari was merely an arrogant annoyance that over extended his belief of his speed.
You are wrong.

Zommari said that he has fastest Sonido, but he never claimed to be fastest overall. On top of Sonido, there also exist raw speed. From what we know, Zommari has fastest Sonido.
 
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