Raikiri/Raiden, the most powerful piercing technique in the manga?

[EliteKakashi]

I'm not exactly sure how well Kishi thought this one through, or maybe he meant to make it this powerful, but Raiden pulled off something not even Kusanagi could.

It's stated here that even Enma, who while in kongou form, which is stated to be harder than diamonds, is wary of being hit by Kusanagi:

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However, we saw something that kusanagi could not cut/pierce, a v2 shroud:

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However, Raiden has shown the ability to cut through/pierce multiple v2 shrouds with ease:

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Raiden is simply Kakashi and a shadow clone both using raikiri and forming a chain of lighting from it.

Does this make Raiden/Raikri the most powerful piercing technique we've seen in the manga?

Do you think it could pierce far enough in to one of the Raikage's lightning shrouds to kill them(Raikiri or Raiden)?

 

[Hokage Sharingan Kakashi]

Lol Kishi made Kakashi OP in his own way. It takes certain eyes to notice that. +rep

 

[Migualon J.J.]

i don't really think it would do that much more damage to A than chidori did, but who knows

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Cough .. Totsuka no tsurugi ..cough ...

 

[EliteKakashi]

Cough .. Totsuka no tsurugi ..cough ...

Is a variant of kusanagi that has shown no amazing piercing feats, not more than kusanagi itself(wouldn't be outlandish to assume it could pierce what kusanagi could...but that's not the point here) or raiden.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Is a variant of kusanagi that has shown no amazing piercing feats, not more than kusanagi itself(wouldn't be outlandish to assume it could pierce what kusanagi could...but that's not the point here) or raiden.

Please show me a scan from the manga , where it says that it's just a "Variant" and that it has the same piercing feats. as the Kusanagi no Tsurugi and nothing more ..


It is only said that it is "The perfect counter for the Kusanagi no Tsurugi" .which can only mean that it exceeds the Kusanagi no tsuruge .

 

[EliteKakashi]

Please show me a scan from the manga , where it says that it's just a "Variant" and that it has the same piercing feats. as the Kusanagi no Tsurugi ..

It's related through Japanese mythology, apparently(like most of Naruto, but I'm not a Japanese mythology expert). I'm not sure if it's ever stated in the manga or not, but Narutopedia apparently says it is(of course, take that with a grain of salt):

The Sword of Totsuka, also known as the Sakegari Longsword (酒刈太刀, Sakegari no Tachi; Literally meaning "Sake Cutter Longsword"), is a variant of the Sword of Kusanagi.

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I didn't say it had the same piercing feats. I said it would be safe to assume, going off that it's a variant of Kusanagi, that it would be capable of piercing the same things as kusanagi. Not that it DOES have the same feats, or even that it SHOULD, just that I ASSUME, basing off it being a variant of kusanagi, that it COULD.

It is only said that it is "The perfect counter for the Kusanagi no Tsurugi" .which can only mean that it exceeds the Kusanagi no tsuruge .

The sword has been popularly mistranslated as a "perfect counter to the Kusanagi".

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Also important to note that the Totsuka swords specialty is sealing. Kusanagi's specialty seems to be piercing.

 

[Prime Rib]

hell lighting stab from the 3rd raikage is stronger

 

[Icelerate]

I'd put the 3rd Raikage's hell stab and Sasuke's kirin above Kakashi's raiden but I do believe Raiden would seriously hurt A but I don't think it would do much if anything to the 3rd Raikage. The kusanagi blade was just hype and it has no feats.

 

[Bogard]

Maybe

 

[Exaar]

I think the 3rd Raikages Hell stab is the most powerful.

Also yes, I believe raikiri would pierce The raikages lightning more, Chidori did and caused very small ammount of damage to A.
Raikiri is just a more powerful form of chidori so i don't see why not.

I'd put the 3rd Raikage's hell stab and Sasuke's kirin above Kakashi's raiden but I do believe Raiden would seriously hurt A but I don't think it would do much if anything to the 3rd Raikage. The kusanagi blade was just hype and it has no feats.

Kirin is't a piercing tech.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I'd put the 3rd Raikage's hell stab and Sasuke's kirin above Kakashi's raiden but I do believe Raiden would seriously hurt A but I don't think it would do much if anything to the 3rd Raikage. The kusanagi blade was just hype and it has no feats.

Why do Sasuke fan boys bring up Sasuke in every thread. Since when was Kirin a piercing technique.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

1 finger hell bringer & twin sword dragon fang are at the top
Chidori esiou the jutsu u speak of and lightning oppression are likely on the same level
Then we have swords & danzo's wind jutsu

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Why do Sasuke fan boys bring up Sasuke in every thread. Since when was Kirin a piercing technique.

Why do minato fans hate on the uchihas so much

Sasuke is almost relevant in any topic due to his versatility

Susanoo arrows & sword + chidori + lightning senbon & shuriken + chidori esiou + enhanced sword

All attacks that pierce making sasuke a key player in this discussion
As for that moron mentioning kirin pay it no attention

 

[Vin Thora]

Kirin is the most piercing jutsu in Naruto so far, in my opinion.

 

[Exaar]

Kirin is the most piercing jutsu in Naruto so far, in my opinion.

How is it a piercing Tech?.

 

[Icelerate]

I think the 3rd Raikages Hell stab is the most powerful.

Also yes, I believe raikiri would pierce The raikages lightning more, Chidori did and caused very small ammount of damage to A.
Raikiri is just a more powerful form of chidori so i don't see why not.

Kirin is't a piercing tech.

Oops my bad but yes the 3rd's hell stab is probably a lot more powerful because it was able to seriously injure the 3rd himself.

Why do Sasuke fan boys bring up Sasuke in every thread. Since when was Kirin a piercing technique.

It was just a mistake and I am no fanboy of any character. I guess since lightning techs were being discussed, I brought kirin into play as it is the most powerful IMO although it was a mistake so sorry.

1 finger hell bringer & twin sword dragon fang are at the top
Chidori esiou the jutsu u speak of and lightning oppression are likely on the same level
Then we have swords & danzo's wind jutsu

Chidori esiou, aka chidori spear is said to be weaker than an ordinary chidori which is weaker than the raikiri which is weaker than raiden so it is not comparable. Also wind is about slicing and dicing unlike lightning which deals with penetration.

@OP: One thing to note is that the durability of the Kyubbi's chakra cloak is probably far more than that of those tailed beasts that Kakashi and Gai fought.

 

[KilltheTrolls]

How bout Sandaime Raikage's tech? and Danzo's Futon.

 

[natzzz]

maybe.

 

[Bogard]

Don't see how Hell Stab is stronger than Raikiri. We're talking about a jutsu that cut anything even lightning(said by Kishimoto himself)