Raikage VS Sasuke: discussion, ideas, comments

[Shodaime]

Re: Sasuke pwns all. lol!!

Juuken, all you are doing is pointing out our mistakes, why dont you point out the biggest mistake of all, sasuke didnt pwn anyone besides samurais and one of raikages jonin with his genjutsu.
So saying that sasuke pwns all, is as wrong as it'll ever get.

I know that's why i didn't even bother to quotes him.
I dont now why they can admit the fact that sasuke is still a loser with a lot of a hatred. sasuke doesn't do a thing yet .seriousy if gaara didn't block reikage kick,sasuke should had be handicap by now, now that reikage should have break throught susano,sasuke should have burn aswell by is own amateratsu.

 

[Riku..]

Re: Sasuke is weak.

Why do u think Saskue is going the wrong path?? u think he is going in the wrong path becasue u see it in ur personal view but put ur self in his place seeing ur mother and father dead infront of u and all the people u care about and lived with all dead and the one responsible was his brother later after he kills his brother he finds out the truth thats a torchering life trust me if u were in his place u would go insane. Then he decides to take out his revenge and anger on the konoha elders and Danzo and anyone in the way would be elimnated!! Im not a fan of Saskue but the dude has a horrible life and u gotta gve him a breack life isnt always perfect!!

As much as I agree with you, that's arguement is really overused now. EVERYONE says it in defense of Sasuke, and I'm a fan of Sasuke, but that excuse simply isn't enough anymore. Many people had horrible childhoods, they all had ways of dealing with it, Sasuke simply decided to go about it the wrong way.

Naruto, for example, never even knew his parents, and for many years, it was just a big free-for-all for him. The only person that did care was Jiriya, but he still hadn't acknowledged him for many years after his birth. Both of them are tough, Naruto never knew what it was like, and Sasuke did know, but he had it taken from him. I can't say which is worse, but both are horrible undeniably.

Gaara, as a more recently reminded example, was really never cared for (besides his mother I think) and one of the people he thought did care about him, had attempted to kill him simply because of something that was completely out of his control. Thus, he was treated the same as Naruto, but for even longer, and in an even worse way. Naruto forced himself to be acknowledged by others, Gaara dealt with it quitely, which made it even worse for him.

Many others have had horrible childhoods, so right now, it's not a good enough excuse for what Sasuke has done.

 

[Degrees]

Re: Sasuke pwns all. lol!!

at the end of the day the match was stop meaning no win for anyone Sasuke was baddy beaten up but he still standing if gaara never stop the fight we just dont know this thread is jus fanboy loving & hateboy hating it just another cycle of hate thread all this is what ifs we just dont know what was going to happen it's just predictions & theories get over it all of u

 

[Rei]

The manga section is over flooded again with new interesting theories after the latest manga chapter.
Please, use this thread here to discuss and comment on this fight.
If you have a new theory please proceed by creating a new thread, but keep the discussion and the comments here.

Thank you ^^

 

[Revan]

Re: how the hell sasuke learn how to use susano

ok let said that he active ms right ....he needs to practice anyways .

if it would be his own tech yes, but it isnt, it's itachis. normally you develop your techs, and if you are teached you develop them in a faster way. but sasuke simply got them as complete tech and therefore needs no training

 

[Mugiwara]

Re: Sasuke is weak.

Alright, he knew that the konoha elders were responsible for what happend to uchiha right? The why the hell did he join akatsuki, and fought 8 tails, he could just go straight for konoha, and kill danzou, tell naruto about what happend, because thats what true friends are for. If naruto knew it, he would help sasuke kill danzou, and that goes for the rest of the friends of sasuke, they would help him too. He chose the path by joining akatsuki, and also, naruto could forgive pain for killing jiraiya, the only family naruto ever had. sasuke should try forgiveness too, but again... danzou is a real a**hole, so its ok to kill him.

 

[Sora.]

Re: Sasuke is weak.

i think that sasuke is at the point that hes going to get too big headed because of his strength and abilities and its going to get him killed and the best example is the fight at the moment

 

[Rei]

Re: Sasuke is weak.

~Merged 4 threads and 54 posts.

please stay on topic everyone and avoid useless posts like "sasuke pwns" or "sasuke sucks"

Thank you ^^

 

[Riku..]

Re: Sasuke is weak.

i think that sasuke is at the point that hes going to get too big headed because of his strength and abilities and its going to get him killed and the best example is the fight at the moment

Possibly, but even when Sasuke did seem cocky, he never did it to the point where he almost died because of it, if he almost died it was usually because of other reasons. Even when he went the second stage of the curse mark for the first time, he was still fighting his hardest with it, he thought he was at the peak of his strength then like he did now, but he didn't go easy on Naruto either because of it.

 

[UnknowNinjaName]

Re: Sasuke pwns all. lol!!

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

to put it simply... a boy hiding in a box of steel does not make him stronger than the bullies trying to get at him. get it right. understand what being strong really means please.

this is a really unintelligent thread. U_U

yes but boy in box of steel has small holes that normal bullets cant come thru so he can shot back at them with his own new bullets

 

[Sora.]

Re: Sasuke is weak.

Possibly, but even when Sasuke did seem cocky, he never did it to the point where he almost died because of it, if he almost died it was usually because of other reasons. Even when he went the second stage of the curse mark for the first time, he was still fighting his hardest with it, he thought he was at the peak of his strength then like he did now, but he didn't go easy on Naruto either because of it.

but i dont think that this is the same since Sasuke is using the MS and fighting two kages and jounins as well and since we can tell that his eyes are going to fail at some point (all the blood) sasuke isnt going to go down without a fight

 

[Last Arcanum]

Re: Sasuke is weak.

Juuken, all you are doing is pointing out our mistakes, why dont you point out the biggest mistake of all, sasuke didnt pwn anyone besides samurais and one of raikages jonin with his genjutsu.
So saying that sasuke pwns all, is as wrong as it'll ever get.

I never stated Sasuke "pwned" Raikage or anyone for that matter but rather wanted people to at least acknowledge that Sasuke has been dealing with Raikage and co. with the best of his abilities. Raikage is one of the strongest people I've seen in the Naruto universe and Sasuke still is in the fight. Remember, just as you can portray Gaara interfering to save Sasuke other people have their point of view and can see it as if Gaara came to save Raikage. I personally see it as if Gaara came to stop the two from farther hurting themselves not to "save" Sasuke. You guys have to proof in saying that the sharp spiked Amaterasu couldn't cut flesh as Sasuke's Chidori release sharp spear is made of pure elemental chakra was able to cut flesh easily and it isn't a solid in reality. Naruto defys reality because when an element is manipulated into something sharp it usually attains that property of a solid. I'm not saying that I'm correct and you aren't but instead trying to get you guys to see my point of view, everyone is different and tends to see things differently.

That directly translates to "I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm making stuff up with no proof so I'm just going to make childish remarks when someone proves me wrong."

Amaterasu has not shown the ability to act as a physical barrier. It sets things on fire. Had the Amaterasu set Raikage's leg on fire, the leg would have continued. It would have put a hole in Sasuke's chest. Why do you think Raikage was upset that Gaara intervened? Because Gaara saved his life? No. Because Gaara saved Sasuke's life.

Eternal said "ask Kishi" and I read that as him saying "Ask Kishimoto the creator of Naruto how he decided to make shinobi defy reality by making a non solid object able to be manipulated into a weapon with solid like characteristics. I know the flames have yet to shown this feature but I don't think you should look down on this possibility as Sasuke has already made electricity into a sword like object once before.

Alright, he knew that the konoha elders were responsible for what happend to uchiha right? The why the hell did he join akatsuki, and fought 8 tails, he could just go straight for konoha, and kill danzou, tell naruto about what happend, because thats what true friends are for. If naruto knew it, he would help sasuke kill danzou, and that goes for the rest of the friends of sasuke, they would help him too. He chose the path by joining Akatsuki, and also, naruto could forgive pain for killing jiraiya, the only family naruto ever had. sasuke should try forgiveness too, but again... danzou is a real a**hole, so its ok to kill him.

I think Sasuke may be using Akatsuki as he used Orochimaru before in the past; of course it may not be and actually could be the opposite but as I said there is always a possibility Sasuke can be using them and to make it seem convining he needs to follow and go along with what they order him to do. Sasuke knows about Madara and he should be on Sasuke's hitlist. If Sasuke is in fact using them to obtain power then its obvious the reason in why he did joined them in the first place. Overall, I agree with you Namikaze in that of Sasuke is extracting revenge in the wrong way and he should instead attempt to do it the right way but Sasuke isn't one to give into others easily in my opinion because if he was as Riku said before that people from Konoha would've convinced him to stay if he could in fact be cracked. Even Madara said he was a hard one to manipulate.​

 

[Typhon]

Eternal said "ask Kishi" and I read that as him saying "Ask Kishimoto the creator of Naruto how he decided to make shinobi defy reality by making a non solid object able to be manipulated into a weapon with solid like characteristics. I know the flames have yet to shown this feature but I don't think you should look down on this possibility as Sasuke has already made electricity into a sword like object once before.

The keep part of your post is "I know the flames have yet to shown this feature". Its possible that hes correct and the flames can do that. But hes speaking as though its a fact, and then when asked to support it he says "Ask Kishi". I just see that as an admission that he can't back up his statement.

 

[Last Arcanum]

The keep part of your post is "I know the flames have yet to shown this feature". Its possible that hes correct and the flames can do that. But hes speaking as though its a fact, and then when asked to support it he says "Ask Kishi". I just see that as an admission that he can't back up his statement.

Yes, you are correct. But I don't want people to dismiss this as a possibility because it isn't farfetched. Many people are telling me their opinions and not acknowledging mine.​

 

[Rei]

Just cleaned the thread and this is a warning for all of you who like to make posts like "sasuke pwns", "sasuke got pwned", "lmao rofl loooolz".
Next time i will see a post like this one, i will start spreading infractions.

On topic now, i really don't get why this is a matter of such debate. For me it was clear, if Gaara hadn't stepped in, Sasuke would be at least unable to move and Raikage would have lost a leg. Now, last time i checked if someone has only one leg and chakra left to fight and the other one is handicapped on the ground, unable to move, the one leg man wins. As simple as that.
I really don't get what some people don't get here. Sasuke is an awesome character, with a strong background history and yes,he is super strong but that doesn't mean he is the strongest of all, criticism about the characters should be welcomed, when there are valid arguments. And about Sasuke there are valid arguments.
And another thing; Some of you guys keep saying that Sasuke is motivated by his hatred cause he didn't know the truth until Madara told him a story -which we aren't sure it is true by the way- and now seeks revenge.
We understand him cause he has suffered, but wait a second, Raikage above all lost a brother and then as a Kage 2 bijuus from his village. In the first case by a person -Sasuke- who was never harmed by Killer Bee and in the second by Akatsuki a bunch of undying criminals.
Don't know about you, but i can really connect and understand Raikage more than Sasuke.

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

sasuke rapes anyone who stands in his path of vengeance

 

[NineTailedSharingan]

I DECLARE FROM NOW ON THAT THE BIGGEST SASUKE FANBOY IS AWARDED TO

EternalUchihaSasuke

omg this dude takes it on with everyone if it goes about sasuke... xd

 

[Thirdwave]

Just cleaned the thread and this is a warning for all of you who like to make posts like "sasuke pwns", "sasuke got pwned", "lmao rofl loooolz".
Next time i will see a post like this one, i will start spreading infractions.

On topic now, i really don't get why this is a matter of such debate. For me it was clear, if Gaara hadn't stepped in, Sasuke would be at least unable to move and Raikage would have lost a leg. Now, last time i checked if someone has only one leg and chakra left to fight and the other one is handicapped on the ground, unable to move, the one leg man wins. As simple as that.
I really don't get what some people don't get here. Sasuke is an awesome character, with a strong background history and yes,he is super strong but that doesn't mean he is the strongest of all, criticism about the characters should be welcomed, when there are valid arguments. And about Sasuke there are valid arguments.
And another thing; Some of you guys keep saying that Sasuke is motivated by his hatred cause he didn't know the truth until Madara told him a story -which we aren't sure it is true by the way- and now seeks revenge.
We understand him cause he has suffered, but wait a second, Raikage above all lost a brother and then as a Kage 2 bijuus from his village. In the first case by a person -Sasuke- who was never harmed by Killer Bee and in the second by Akatsuki a bunch of undying criminals.
Don't know about you, but i can really connect and understand Raikage more than Sasuke.

^ I have to agree with this. Even if Gaara had not stepped in I have a feeling that both parties would have lost I don't believe that the Raikage could have survived with out his leg with already losing a arm, and Sasuke wouldn't have survived with his ribs being crushed.
People need to start looking at both sides of the story instead of staying on one side of this topic.

 

[naturo9]

you guys awesome, you made Rei-chan to post her opinions here. hehehehe

this fight is not totally over yet, if you decide by team points, hawk team lost the fight. sasuke vs raikage=raikage won before gaara showed up. i called raikage won because raikage was doing offensive (on top) while sasuke on defensive (on the ground) + his mouth was bleeding.

i got this idea because i love to watch boxing and mma. hehehehe

 

[naturo9]

sasuke rapes anyone who stands in his path of vengeance

it depends, he "may"...

i say "may" coz he is only fighting 2 kages + 3 jonins and he is already using his third MS power. "If" sasuke will out of chakra after this fight and his third MS power is gone, don't forget, Danzo and his bodyguard are waiting their chances.

but Tobi and black aloe vera man are still there.