[Discussion] Raikage vs Naruto

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Wow, pretty astonished by the amount of pure fail in this thread. Not to mention, fanboyism and horribly bad enghlish. Anyways, winner is Raikage you guys are just hard headed to admit it. So ill take the daunting task to make this clear.

Raikage wins beacuse
-A man who can dodge amateratsu which is realeased upon eye contact, so baiscally faster then the speed of light, which takes your eyes to process and interpret what they are seeing.
-Raikage lightning armor as well as super vibrating lightning will punch a hole through naruto's chest.Of course, naruto can sense chakra but just cause you can sense somthing dosent mean you can physically move outta the way before it kills you -.-. (i.e sasuke vs lee)
-Sage mode allows user to have more endurance and feel virtually no pain, however, a hole is your chest the size of raikages fist wont hurt, it will kill you.
-Naruto will never start off in kyuubi mode aganist anyone hence the last resort kinda thing.
-Even if naruto has wind element i would give anyone 5 dollars and my left hand to prove if hes done any justsu with wind or even gathered wind element thats not related to rasengan or needs a clone to imput it in.
-Naruto will have to play defensive the whole match someone who can move the speed of light consistantly is impossible to keep dodging while trying to kill. Just impossible.

In before the Raikage fanboy comments, favourite character is Kakashi,sasory,minato which are a stronger correlation to naruto then raikage.
 

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Wow, pretty astonished by the amount of pure fail in this thread. Not to mention, fanboyism and horribly bad enghlish. Anyways, winner is Raikage you guys are just hard headed to admit it. So ill take the daunting task to make this clear.

Raikage wins beacuse
-A man who can dodge amateratsu which is realeased upon eye contact, so baiscally faster then the speed of light, which takes your eyes to process and interpret what they are seeing.
-Raikage lightning armor as well as super vibrating lightning will punch a hole through naruto's chest.Of course, naruto can sense chakra but just cause you can sense somthing dosent mean you can physically move outta the way before it kills you -.-. (i.e sasuke vs lee)
-Sage mode allows user to have more endurance and feel virtually no pain, however, a hole is your chest the size of raikages fist wont hurt, it will kill you.
-Naruto will never start off in kyuubi mode aganist anyone hence the last resort kinda thing.
-Even if naruto has wind element i would give anyone 5 dollars and my left hand to prove if hes done any justsu with wind or even gathered wind element thats not related to rasengan or needs a clone to imput it in.
-Naruto will have to play defensive the whole match someone who can move the speed of light consistantly is impossible to keep dodging while trying to kill. Just impossible.

In before the Raikage fanboy comments, favourite character is Kakashi,sasory,minato which are a stronger correlation to naruto then raikage.
Didnt have to rage, but, we cant say anything, we dont know either's full potential, the best fit place for a winner is Naruto, sage mode is dominant
 

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Wow, pretty astonished by the amount of pure fail in this thread. Not to mention, fanboyism and horribly bad enghlish. Anyways, winner is Raikage you guys are just hard headed to admit it. So ill take the daunting task to make this clear.

Raikage wins beacuse
-A man who can dodge amateratsu which is realeased upon eye contact, so baiscally faster then the speed of light, which takes your eyes to process and interpret what they are seeing.
-Raikage lightning armor as well as super vibrating lightning will punch a hole through naruto's chest.Of course, naruto can sense chakra but just cause you can sense somthing dosent mean you can physically move outta the way before it kills you -.-. (i.e sasuke vs lee)
-Sage mode allows user to have more endurance and feel virtually no pain, however, a hole is your chest the size of raikages fist wont hurt, it will kill you.
-Naruto will never start off in kyuubi mode aganist anyone hence the last resort kinda thing.
-Even if naruto has wind element i would give anyone 5 dollars and my left hand to prove if hes done any justsu with wind or even gathered wind element thats not related to rasengan or needs a clone to imput it in.
-Naruto will have to play defensive the whole match someone who can move the speed of light consistantly is impossible to keep dodging while trying to kill. Just impossible.

In before the Raikage fanboy comments, favourite character is Kakashi,sasory,minato which are a stronger correlation to naruto then raikage.
if what ur saying is true then how did he loose an arm and almost a leg against sasuke...and why didint he put a hole in sasukes chest or is sasuke so much stronger than naruto ????o_O
P.S if all of what u said is true then raikage would be able to take pain out in 1 or 2 seconds
 

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if what ur saying is true then how did he loose an arm and almost a leg against sasuke...and why didint he put a hole in sasukes chest or is sasuke so much stronger than naruto ????o_O
P.S if all of what u said is true then raikage would be able to take pain out in 1 or 2 seconds
Sasuke has susano which pretty much protects him from anything.We saw that when all the kages tried to attack him.And just because raikage is beast doesn`t mean that there aren`t a few people who are actually stronger than him e.g. Pain.When you list all of pain attributes you will be equally or more impressed.

Wow, pretty astonished by the amount of pure fail in this thread. Not to mention, fanboyism and horribly bad enghlish. Anyways, winner is Raikage you guys are just hard headed to admit it. So ill take the daunting task to make this clear.
i agree on the analysis of the fight but i don`t like people who critize how people wright.Most people in here probably have english as second or third language and i have not seen any horrible bad enghlish since its a language i have not previously seen before.Seriously no need to get snobby...:eek:
 

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Wow, pretty astonished by the amount of pure fail in this thread. Not to mention, fanboyism and horribly bad enghlish. Anyways, winner is Raikage you guys are just hard headed to admit it. So ill take the daunting task to make this clear.

Raikage wins beacuse
-A man who can dodge amateratsu which is realeased upon eye contact, so baiscally faster then the speed of light, which takes your eyes to process and interpret what they are seeing.
-Raikage lightning armor as well as super vibrating lightning will punch a hole through naruto's chest.Of course, naruto can sense chakra but just cause you can sense somthing dosent mean you can physically move outta the way before it kills you -.-. (i.e sasuke vs lee)
-Sage mode allows user to have more endurance and feel virtually no pain, however, a hole is your chest the size of raikages fist wont hurt, it will kill you.
-Naruto will never start off in kyuubi mode aganist anyone hence the last resort kinda thing.
-Even if naruto has wind element i would give anyone 5 dollars and my left hand to prove if hes done any justsu with wind or even gathered wind element thats not related to rasengan or needs a clone to imput it in.
-Naruto will have to play defensive the whole match someone who can move the speed of light consistantly is impossible to keep dodging while trying to kill. Just impossible.

In before the Raikage fanboy comments, favourite character is Kakashi,sasory,minato which are a stronger correlation to naruto then raikage.
Again with the speed of light.. where has it been established that he moves at the speed of light? All thats been established is that he moves faster than Sasuke's eyes can track.
 

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If kishi truly explained that as raikage moving "faster than light" then I now understand the immense plotholes.

I have attempted to explain this before without much luck.

Kakashi as a child using chidori was scolded by Minato for Kakashi was moving so fast his EYES couldnt keep up with his surroundings, as such enemies could counter attack without him knowing, as we saw in the Manga Gaiden.

He then obtained the sharingan and it allowed him to see his surroundings, allowing him to use the chidori/raikiri and could see if an enemy was coming to counter him.

Lets forget the fact that the brain is the organ which actually processes the surroundings, and the brain governs the speed of the processing ability, the eye is simply the tool it uses, and the eye is indeed limited to the speed of light, which makes the fact of sharingan allowing Kakashi to see faster absolutely laughably scientifically false.

Lets entertain the idea that an eye transplant has made Kakashis brain process ocular images faster, we come to the problem that Raikage manages to move at much faster speeds without sharingan, and not only moves faster, but moves faster TO COUNTER anothers attacks

So on one hand we have Kakashi who moves fast and IS countered
And on one hand we have Raikage moving faster TO counter.

Its about as arse about face as things can get.

Raikage and Kakashi assumedly have similar eyes/brain process speeds given theyre both the same species, and have same species eyes (prior to his sharingan implant)

An eye simply recieves light reflecting off of objects, the eye then gives this information to the brain, which processes the information into an image, which allows you to manipulate your surroundings.

An eyes speed of seeing is governed entirely by the speed of light, your bodies reaction times to its surroundings is governed entirely by your brains speed of processing the image the eye recieves.

A sharingan implant allowing Kakashi to see things better at faster speeds suggests it has somehow artificially increased his brains processing speeds.
A little quote from me in the amaterasu thread
 

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Wow, pretty astonished by the amount of pure fail in this thread. Not to mention, fanboyism and horribly bad enghlish. Anyways, winner is Raikage you guys are just hard headed to admit it. So ill take the daunting task to make this clear.

Raikage wins beacuse
-A man who can dodge amateratsu which is realeased upon eye contact, so baiscally faster then the speed of light, which takes your eyes to process and interpret what they are seeing.
-Raikage lightning armor as well as super vibrating lightning will punch a hole through naruto's chest.Of course, naruto can sense chakra but just cause you can sense somthing dosent mean you can physically move outta the way before it kills you -.-. (i.e sasuke vs lee)
-Sage mode allows user to have more endurance and feel virtually no pain, however, a hole is your chest the size of raikages fist wont hurt, it will kill you.
-Naruto will never start off in kyuubi mode aganist anyone hence the last resort kinda thing.
-Even if naruto has wind element i would give anyone 5 dollars and my left hand to prove if hes done any justsu with wind or even gathered wind element thats not related to rasengan or needs a clone to imput it in.
-Naruto will have to play defensive the whole match someone who can move the speed of light consistantly is impossible to keep dodging while trying to kill. Just impossible.

In before the Raikage fanboy comments, favourite character is Kakashi,sasory,minato which are a stronger correlation to naruto then raikage.
wow. just wow. speed of light? Where did you get that preposterous hypothesis? I would really like to know. do know how fast it is? he could then travel to the sun in eight minutes. lol lolololol fanboy
 

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Raikage never moved faster than the speed of light. He predicted the release of Amaterasu through Sasuke's body language (blood dripping, eye twitching, focusing, possibly chakra build up, etc) and side stepped faster than Sasuke's eye could keep up. Like twisted said the eye is limited by the speed of light on how fast it can pick up the stimulus BUT the ocular muscles are limited by the brain's reaction to the stimulus, therefore Raikage only had to move faster than Sasuke's eyes could react, not faster than the speed of light (which is 300 million meters per second in a vacuum).

Even if Raikage could move faster than the speed of light (which is preposterous), not only would he be bending time (as assumed by Einstein), but he would not be able to keep up the speed. As we saw, it was just a Shunshin no jutsu, and that allows the user to move at extremely high speeds for short distances by increasing their chakras momentarily to activate their body fully. Raikage's chakras were elevated to tailed beast levels so that's how he moved so quickly. It's most likely not something that he could extend or use often.
 

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Wow, pretty astonished by the amount of pure fail in this thread. Not to mention, fanboyism and horribly bad enghlish. Anyways, winner is Raikage you guys are just hard headed to admit it. So ill take the daunting task to make this clear.

Raikage wins beacuse
-A man who can dodge amateratsu which is realeased upon eye contact, so baiscally faster then the speed of light, which takes your eyes to process and interpret what they are seeing.
-Raikage lightning armor as well as super vibrating lightning will punch a hole through naruto's chest.Of course, naruto can sense chakra but just cause you can sense somthing dosent mean you can physically move outta the way before it kills you -.-. (i.e sasuke vs lee)
-Sage mode allows user to have more endurance and feel virtually no pain, however, a hole is your chest the size of raikages fist wont hurt, it will kill you.
-Naruto will never start off in kyuubi mode aganist anyone hence the last resort kinda thing.
-Even if naruto has wind element i would give anyone 5 dollars and my left hand to prove if hes done any justsu with wind or even gathered wind element thats not related to rasengan or needs a clone to imput it in.
-Naruto will have to play defensive the whole match someone who can move the speed of light consistantly is impossible to keep dodging while trying to kill. Just impossible.

In before the Raikage fanboy comments, favourite character is Kakashi,sasory,minato which are a stronger correlation to naruto then raikage.
LMao what!
-First A can't move as fast as the speed of light because amateratsu doesn't move at that speed only Karin. by your logic Sasuke can move that fast since he escaped
 

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Wow first time back in a mionth and nothing has changed everyone either bashes naru or sasuke. If naruto could control his futon and make a wind sheild then he wouldn't have to worry to much lariet or not.
 

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and if my grandmother w had mustache, she would be my grandfather o_O

What is the point of an argument if you say " ih he could" he cant do it so dont use it as an argument ^^
 

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By learning to sense/control natural energy in Sage Mode, it allowed Naruto to sense other people's chakra. He's not bad at it at all considering he deduced that Kakashi was either absent or dead during the Pain battle and he also followed Kakashi's chakra (when he was chasing after Sakura/going to face Sasuke) quite easily.

My theory is that the natural energy acts as a carrier of information much like radio waves and he can pick up on the subtle differences when that natural energy passes by/interacts with another person's chakras.

This, however, will not help him against an opponent that is too fast for him to react to whether he senses him or not.
 

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Yes, Naruto Sage Mode allows Him the ability to pick other peoples chakra, that is why Kisame is in danger of being detected on the Island, If Naruto goes into Sage mode close to Sword He will pict up Kisame Chakra.
 
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