Raikage vs Hidan and Kakuzu

[Kusanagi35]

Raikage A vs Hidan and Kakuzu

No intel on both side.
Both side have the intent to kill their opponent
Location : Where kakashi/shika fought them




I personally think Raikage A would handle this with low difficulty at most.

As we all know, Doton is weak against Raiton which happens to be the Raikage's specialty. Therefore Kakuzu's Domu armor will be no use for him since the Raikage can break through it easily. In fact, the Raikage's lightening nintaijutsu is a lot more powerful than Kakashi's Raikiri which was able to pierce Kakuzu's Domu with ease. Even Kakuzu stated that he didn't see Kakashi coming from behind to attack him because he was too fast, considering Raikage is a lot faster than Kakashi he would easily get him.


My next point is about Kakuzu's elemental mask, therefore, his ninjutsu.
Kakuzu's ninjutsu elemental attacks that come from his masks are mostly B-Rank jutsu. Which can be destructive but is definitely not a one shot move. The thing is his ninjutsu are mostly focused on damaging in a large area. As shown in this manga page, Choji,Ino and Shiakamaru evaded his attacks with little difficulty so it will not be a problem at all for the Raikage to evade them, thank to his incredible speed.

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A can speed blitz him without Kakuzu being able to defend himself.

All of Kakuzu's abilities have just been covered and the Raikage can counter all of them with no diffuculty, in other words, the Raikage is a terrible match up for Kakuzu.

Now let's talk a bit about Hidan here. Hidan is probably one of the weakest akatsuki member and the less developed as well. The core of his strength lies on the fact that he is immortal and can't die in a fight. He mostly rely on his immortality when he fights which can result in him being very cocky and underestimating his opponent The only way to defeat him is by restraining him by cutting his head off or dismember him.

Hidan taijutsu is pretty average. He was a bit above Asuma's level in speed and taijutsu tactic. He is pretty agile but that's about it. As everyone probably know, the sharingan's ability to read movement can be easily countered by someone who is highly skilled in speed and taijutsu general. Two good example of this are Killer Bee and Raikage.

Killer Bee's Supervibrato swords technique was too much for the Sharingan to read. Sasuke got easily outclassed because he couldn't read Bee's movements which were too fast for him to see and react.

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Now you must be asking yourselves "where is he going with this?"
Well. Kakashi did extremely well at reading Hidan's movements when he fought him. Hidan couldn't manage to land one blow on Kakashi because his speed and taijutsu in general wasn't good enough.

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Now, considering the Raikage's speed and taijutsu is highly above Bee's and Kakashi's , Hidan has no hope of ever touching the Raikage and getting some of his blood. Not to mention his lightening armor is way too resilient for Hidan's scythe to pierce it. Then the Raikage could just use his lightening chop to cut his head off then proceed to killing Kakuzu. So Hidan is totally not a problem here, I could have put Udon instead of him and it wouldn't have changed the result because all Hidan's jutsu are ineffective against the Raikage. In the end Hidan and Kakuzu have nothing that could harm the Raikage and all their jutsu can be countered by him easily. Not to mention the Raikage's huge chakra reserve will enable him to destroy all Kakuzu's heart without exhausting too much chakra.



So that was my opinion on this match up. Thanks for reading and let me know what you think.

 

[Umadbro2]

Very good

 

[November]

Itachi solos

 

[zamki]

Hidan - Kakuzu is almost an invincible duo,the reason why they were defeated was the presence of the main character in the fight...Raikage would get owned

 

[Kusanagi35]

Hidan - Kakuzu is almost an invincible duo,the reason why they were defeated was the presence of the main character in the fight...Raikage would get owned

All Kakuzu's jutsu can be countered by the Raikage. Next time read the OP before posting.
Both of them don't stand a chance against him.

 

[Sense]

hmmmmm well seeing as Raikage can counter practically everything they throw at him plus hidan is usless in this fight except for being a decoy id say Raikage mid diff
P.S. nice thread

 

[naruto legend]

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rai alone stomps kakuzu

 

[Hoshi]

A's speed is just too quik.

 

[Tapey]

there is a VS part of the base for a reason.

 

[Dubbuoo]

both Kakuzu and Hidan won't have anything effective to bring down Raikage

Hidan's blade can't acquire any blood because of lightning armour...

Raikage is too fast for Kakuzu

 

[Kusanagi35]

both Kakuzu and Hidan won't have anything effective to bring down Raikage

Hidan's blade can't acquire any blood because of lightning armour...

Raikage is too fast for Kakuzu

Indeed.

hmmmmm well seeing as Raikage can counter practically everything they throw at him plus hidan is usless in this fight except for being a decoy id say Raikage mid diff
P.S. nice thread

Thank you

 

[ItachiStyle]

Raikage easily. He doesn't let people hit or cut him for no reason, and Hidan is way too slow to hit him. Raikage will be curiously amused by Hidan being alive after he punches a hole in his chest (and then one shots Kakuzu), but he'll just rip Hidan apart after... end fight.

People overrate Kakuzu and Hidan so much it's not funny. These guys were gimmick fighters, nothing special. Once people uncovered the gimmick, they weren't worth much. And Raikage is so far above them, not even their gimmick matters.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Raikaga mid diff.
Hi kills Hidan instantly. He kills Kakuzu 5 mins later.

 

[ItachiStyle]

5 Minutes? More like 5 seconds... the only reason Kakuzu lasts 5 minutes is because after he is instantly killed, he feigns death, gets up and tries to hurt Raikage, and is killed again.. repeat pattern until Kakuzu is shredded. How the heck could Kakuzu last 5 minutes in a legit fight?!

 

[Kusanagi35]

A's speed is just too quik.

Yes

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Yep Raikage mid diff. The duo have nothing to harm him.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Raikage A vs Hidan and Kakuzu

No intel on both side.
Both side have the intent to kill their opponent
Location : Where kakashi/shika fought them




I personally think Raikage A would handle this with low difficulty at most.
Low at most?=/

As we all know, Doton is weak against Raiton which happens to be the Raikage's specialty.
True so Doton defense will be done from here (four more kills to go)

Therefore Kakuzu's Domu armor will be no use for him since the Raikage can break through it easily. In fact, the Raikage's lightening nintaijutsu is a lot more powerful than Kakashi's Raikiri which was able to pierce Kakuzu's Domu with ease.
Raikage said himself that Kakashi's lightening penetrates better but I agree that reguarless it will break Kakuzu defense

Even Kakuzu stated that he didn't see Kakashi coming from behind to attack him because he was too fast, considering Raikage is a lot faster than Kakashi he would easily get him.
Kakuzu never stated that he didn't see Kakashi because of being too fast but because he hid his presence(stealth mode)


My next point is about Kakuzu's elemental mask, therefore, his ninjutsu.
Kakuzu's ninjutsu elemental attacks that come from his masks are mostly B-Rank jutsu. Which can be destructive but is definitely not a one shot move.
Jutsu ranking determines the difficulty of the jutsu (How hard is it to perfrom) IT had NOTHING to do with determining the POWER of it (Caps for clear understanding). Kakuzu Air Mask is the main play in this battle

The thing is his ninjutsu are mostly focused on damaging in a large area. As shown in this manga page, Choji,Ino and Shiakamaru evaded his attacks with little difficulty so it will not be a problem at all for the Raikage to evade them, thank to his incredible speed.

I disagree on "Only focus is the area it attacks". Kakuzu clearly wanted to take out Kakashi with Air Mask but Sharingan saved him (by reading through it and dodging it coming directly at his face). Manga shows Kakuzu DEMONSTRATING his powers to those kids. Air attack wasn't after kids but only Kakashi. Lightening couldn't be evaded but blocked. And fire was evaded through demonstrating. (Regardless, A can dodge them but the factor that comes in play is HOW Kakuzu is going to fight. He is fighting a Kage that took out his Doton heart quick. Dying first and reviving him gives him a second chance to find a way to fight speed/power combo with lightening armor monster. Kakuzu is smart, he needs to win by tactic at this point instead of spraying elements everywhere and "hopefully one hits A"..) He won't be fighting cocky like he was fighting team 10.

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A can speed blitz him without Kakuzu being able to defend himself.
True. Remember, first death was basically a warning to Kakuzu, on who he is up against

All of Kakuzu's abilities have just been covered and the Raikage can counter all of them with no diffuculty, in other words, the Raikage is a terrible match up for Kakuzu.
Raikage can't counter Wind

Now let's talk a bit about Hidan here. Hidan is probably one of the weakest akatsuki member and the less developed as well. The core of his strength lies on the fact that he is immortal and can't die in a fight. He mostly rely on his immortality when he fights which can result in him being very cocky and underestimating his opponent The only way to defeat him is by restraining him by cutting his head off or dismember him.
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Hidan taijutsu is pretty average. He was a bit above Asuma's level in speed and taijutsu tactic. He is pretty agile but that's about it. As everyone probably know, the sharingan's ability to read movement can be easily countered by someone who is highly skilled in speed and taijutsu general. Two good example of this are Killer Bee and Raikage.
Yet he put Kakashi on his toes the whole fight even having knowledge on Hidan.

Killer Bee's Supervibrato swords technique was too much for the Sharingan to read. Sasuke got easily outclassed because he couldn't read Bee's movements which were too fast for him to see and react.

Manga shows that the speed wasn't the problem but it being unorthodox (Same reason Edo Itachi was dodging Bee when he started pulling out 7 sword style). Regardless Hidan's worst match up is A due to armor protect

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Now you must be asking yourselves "where is he going with this?"
Well. Kakashi did extremely well at reading Hidan's movements when he fought him. Hidan couldn't manage to land one blow on Kakashi because his speed and taijutsu in general wasn't good enough.
He wasn't able to land a blow because Kakashi was cautions of Hidans attacks (because Shikimaru gave him knowledge on Hidan) And Hidan's fighting style was Nerf . The metallic rope attacked to his weapons plays an important role on his taijutsu too. (just for corrections and misconceptions on this point I wanted to point out)

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Now, considering the Raikage's speed and taijutsu is highly above Bee's and Kakashi's , Hidan has no hope of ever touching the Raikage and getting some of his blood. Not to mention his lightening armor is way too resilient for Hidan's scythe to pierce it.

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Then the Raikage could just use his lightening chop to cut his head off then proceed to killing Kakuzu.

My argument conclusions is putting 4th Raikage into Character if they were to every fight. If we take him out from the manga Character then he clearly doesn't waste time and V2 speed chop both of their heads at the same time. But we can say that about Kakashi Kamui everything, there's no discussion resulting in taking character out of context. But I agree that Raikage WILL BE at a position that he has no choice but to result into head chopping, eventually

So Hidan is totally not a problem here, I could have put Udon instead of him and it wouldn't have changed the result because all Hidan's jutsu are ineffective against the Raikage. In the end Hidan and Kakuzu have nothing that could harm the Raikage and all their jutsu can be countered by him easily. Not to mention the Raikage's huge chakra reserve will enable him to destroy all Kakuzu's heart without exhausting too much chakra.

All of this is true except counter Kakuzu's Wind Release



So that was my opinion on this match up. Thanks for reading and let me know what you think.

I always though A vs Kakuzu can go 50/50. People seem to portray kakuzu as fighting only as a power house (and forgets that he uses analyst when needed, to win this battle).

A clearly out matches Kakuzu in a power house battle. But should Kakuzu fight like a power house through out the whole battle? Wouldn't you have no choice to conclude that Kakuzu is dumb if he results to this? Anyway Kakuzu has no choice but to FIGHT SMART. Kakuzu Seems like a element expert from his aspect. Kakuzu should know how to counter lightning so he has to used his counter properly (Wind release).

Hidan is useless due to Lightning Armor. But Kakuzu as a partner. Kakuzu's proper use of wind release can also strip the armor away (which results of Hidan actually landing a scratch .)

Since I use to believe Kakuzu and A 50/50, Ill give the Zombie Duo 55/45

 

[Kusanagi35]

I always though A vs Kakuzu can go 50/50. People seem to portray kakuzu as fighting only as a power house (and forgets that he uses analyst when needed, to win this battle).

A clearly out matches Kakuzu in a power house battle. But should Kakuzu fight like a power house through out the whole battle? Wouldn't you have no choice to conclude that Kakuzu is dumb if he results to this? Anyway Kakuzu has no choice but to FIGHT SMART. Kakuzu Seems like a element expert from his aspect. Kakuzu should know how to counter lightning so he has to used his counter properly (Wind release).

Hidan is useless due to Lightning Armor. But Kakuzu as a partner. Kakuzu's proper use of wind release can also strip the armor away (which results of Hidan actually landing a scratch .)

Since I use to believe Kakuzu and A 50/50, Ill give the Zombie Duo 55/45

The Raikage can evade all 3 of his ninjutsu attacks.
Lightening can be blocked or evaded, fire can be evaded and wind can be evaded as well. I'll tell you why.
And please reread the manga before trying to counter my arguments. Shikamaru wasn't responsible of Kakashi's prowess during his fight against Hidan. He has nothing to do with this. During his fight against Pain, Choza clearly stated that Kakashi has always been prudent in a fight, using bunshins and such to analyze his opponent abilities before going all out. Even if Shika told him about Hidan, it doesn't change anything.

Kakashi noticed Kakuzu's air mask about to attacking at the last moment , his sharingan didn't do much here, at this point it was just all about speed and reflexes to dodge the attack. A's speed and reflexes are excessively higher than Kakashi's because of his V2, dodging it isn't a problem. This resulting in A being able to counter all of Kakuzu's ninjutsu.

Also, A is a battle genius who lead the Shinobi alliance on the battlefield, the other Kages were receiving his orders. He is definitely a better tactician than Kakuzu and he possess more battle experience. I don't see how Kakuzu's intelligence will come handy against an opponent like him.

Again, Hidan is too slow and his taijutsu can't even compete against someone like the Raikage, I've already explained why in the original post. He has no chance of landing a scratch.

A takes this with low to mid diff. Mostly low diff.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

The Raikage can evade all 3 of his ninjutsu attacks.

He can dodge all 4 of them.In fact A can dodge any jutsu do due to his speed

Lightening can be blocked or evaded, fire can be evaded and wind can be evaded as well. I'll tell you why.

I already know why, through speed. He had shown to be able to dodge in attack a point blank (Juugo Blast)

And please reread the manga before trying to counter my arguments. Shikamaru wasn't responsible of Kakashi's prowess during his fight against Hidan. He has nothing to do with this.

Then let me show you manga:

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Manga shows it did play in important role. The battle outcome will of been completely different for Kakashi starting from the front lines and FIRST In-counter

Also here is Shikimaru Nerfing Hidan's Kenjutsu:

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During his fight against Pain, Choza clearly stated that Kakashi has always been prudent in a fight, using bunshins and such to analyze his opponent abilities before going all out. Even if Shika told him about Hidan, it doesn't change anything.
It does change, Kakashi would of gotten scratch going head on. Shiki Did nerf Hidan's Kenjutsu as I shown above. (This is off topic but just clearly things up)

Kakashi noticed Kakuzu's air mask about to attacking at the last moment , his sharingan didn't do much here, at this point it was just all about speed and reflexes to dodge the attack.
It was his Sharingan feats that saved him it, did alot (As Kakuzu noted):

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A's speed and reflexes are excessively higher than Kakashi's because of his V2, dodging it isn't a problem. This resulting in A being able to counter all of Kakuzu's ninjutsu.

My argument is not Kakuzu blasting away everywhere and hopefully catch A but using Wind release properly but catching and opening. A has to stop and attack at some point. He has to catch him on a blind side (Hidan is a perfect rage doll Diversion)

Also, A is a battle genius who lead the Shinobi alliance on the battlefield, the other Kages were receiving his orders.
Not through his plans. But others advice (just like how vs Sasuke he used Cee and Dee to analyzed then he goes for the kill)

He is definitely a better tactician than Kakuzu and he possess more battle experience.
Strongly disagree

I don't see how Kakuzu's intelligence will come handy against an opponent like him.

Kakuzu's intelligence plays a big role when fighting someone faster and physically stronger.

Again, Hidan is too slow and his taijutsu can't even compete against someone like the Raikage, I've already explained why in the original post. He has no chance of landing a scratch.

Hidan fighting head on would be useless. Here is HOW I can see it NOT be. A speed blitz Hidan head on and gets crushed. A fines out its not killing him. Kakuzu finds takes advantage and blast A can wind (flying from the air air so he won't realize and react)

Wind takes out Hidan and A Hidan takes advantage, since he is happy to actually have the only open to scratch A.

A takes this with low to mid diff. Mostly low diff.

That's a bit underrating here. And relying on speed blitz throughout the whole battle

 

[Kusanagi35]

That's a bit underrating here. And relying on speed blitz throughout the whole battle

No as I have already explained. Kakashi always analyze his opponent abilities before trying to make a move and Hidan's weak taijutsu didn't allow him to land a scratch on Kakashi. He has always been careful when it comes to fighting. He wouldn't simply let his opponent hit him, especially when that opponent isn't even good in taijutsu. That is all. Quit trying to contradict what you can't contradict.


A's speed is too great for Hidan to even catch him, It is useless, the only reason why Kakashi got stuck between Hidan and the air mask was because he was too slow to ignore Hidan and get past him, this is totally not a problem for the Raikage.

As demonstrated, Hidan and Kakuzu's masks can't catch A due to his speed and reflexes.

You disagree about Raikage having more battle experience, as you want but those are facts. He led the shinobi alliance, I'm almost certain no one would pick a leader that isn't experienced. Even the Kages were in agreement for the Raikage to be the leader.

Again and again, A's speed and reflexes are too great for him to get caught by Kakuzu's masks. The fraction of the second he notices the air mask is about to throw something at him, he can dodge it. That's it.

Sorry but Kakuzu and Hidan have no chance of winning, the poll and replies agree with me