Quick question guys

[prometheus]

I have been mainly observing things on this site for a while now and i have a few questions

Did anyone witness the hashi madara fight?

And if anyone did who was it?

Sarutobi is called the professor, But does he know all the secret jutsu because if he does then they are not soo secret are they?

Of the current generation no one saw hashi so it would be unfair to make a claim on his abilities?

The gap in abilities between madara and the current kages is too wide therefore the claim that the next generation will surpass the last doesn`t really apply here.

Another theory i have been turning over in my head is that, I believe Sarutobi was called the strongest because he lasted the longest?

Let me know what you guys think and please this is not a hashi vs saru thread just an effort to understand their abiities.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Kurama witnessed Hashi vs Madara, and dont ask about Hiruzen's abilities the manga said he could use every jutsu in Konoha then lets believe it, no proof he couldnt but personally I dont believe it ...
And in the anime kabuto says Hashi was the best of all time..so there is contradiction at least between manga and anime...

 

[prometheus]

i meant ninjas

 

[Seraphiel]

Kurama witnessed Hashi vs Madara, and dont ask about Hiruzen's abilities the manga said he could use every jutsu in Konoha then lets believe it, no proof he couldnt but personally I dont believe it ...

I hope he gives us some juicy info.

 

[Scooby Doo]

i meant ninjas

I dont think that any ninja saw it...

 

[Seraphiel]

I dont think that any ninja saw it...

Maybe Mito and Zetsu. :shrug:

 

[Flame Alchemist]

uzumaki mito. she was the one who sealed kyuubi in the fight so she has to be there

those techniques are a secret within the village. in other words, nara's shadow possesion, yamanaka's mind switch etc. are all hidden techniques. everyone knows them but no one knows how they are done.

onoki did saw hashirama. probably tsunade too

well next generation thing is a relative term. sometimes it applies sometimes it doesn't. naruto will most likely surpass hashirama and sasuke will most likely surpass madara.
but the person who said that which is kakashi probably hasn't surpassed his father yet.

well he was probably the strongest kage in his time. and he was made a hokage at a very young age that may be the reason. and your theory might have a hand as well

 

[Scooby Doo]

Maybe Mito and Zetsu. :shrug:

I dont know if Mito was at the battlefield or sealed Kyuubi later... But I'm sure Zetsu was made later.(maybe black zetsu witnessed it but not sure)

 

[lol99]

the sealing of the kyuubi may have taken place either during the fight or after it

it was never stated.

i think it was later and mito didnt witness the fight

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Don't let anyone on nb fool you hashi and madara are in their own landscape changing langue. Fools will tell hiruzen is the strongest shinobi because a couple fodders of his time called him that :sy:

 

[Scooby Doo]

the sealing of the kyuubi may have taken place either during the fight or after it

it was never stated.

i think it was later and mito didnt witness the fight

Agree with you.

 

[nomadenbug]

understand their ability, hashi with his sage thing, madara with his eye thing, hiruzen pure talent.