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You are wrong. One Piece has always been first ever since it came out. Naruto had always been second. Bleach was always third or fourth. In the shonen jump rankings bleach gone down even in this final arc. Bleach will never be first ad long as one piece is number 1. It's only chance of getting back on top is if one piece and naruto are somehow gone.

Naruto has had worse chapters these past 3 months out the big 3 and yet it still ranks 2nd every week.
hmhmh not really, there are times when naruto beat one piece and that happen in the 1st half 2005 but one piece regain it place in the 2nd half 2005,

and also after that bleach take over naruto in 2nd place.
 

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hmhmh not really, there are times when naruto beat one piece and that happen in the 1st half 2005 but one piece regain it place in the 2nd half 2005,

and also after that bleach take over naruto in 2nd place.
I justed watched it and yeah bleach took over 2nd place "once"
It has never been first. The guy I quoted before said Bleach was always number 1.
Also that was back when bleach was s till good and was a competitior against the other 2. But, it will never get that chance again.
 

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I justed watched it and yeah bleach took over 2nd place "once"
It has never been first. The guy I quoted before said Bleach was always number 1.
Also that was back when bleach was s till good and was a competitior against the other 2. But, it will never get that chance again.
who know:shrug:, this final arc in bleach have some good potential
 

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Lol a arc that will last 8-10 years(only Kubo can make an arc this long). I'm sure he will ruin the potential of this arc too. So i'm not having high hopes for this arc.
there is a misunderstanding with that statement from kubo,
lets take a look before jump into the bandwagon, shall we ?

this is a conversation between some member from certain manga forum
Are you expecting 8 years for Kubo finish his series?
Dude, 8 years is like he is writing a new manga, it doesnt make any sense. 5 years in just one arc is already an absurd!
And yet the Hueco Mundo/Espada arc lasted 5 years. My fears are justified. Kubo writes very slowly.
Bleach is still the fourth best selling Manga in the magazine and one of the top 10 best selling Manga in Japan by total sales. The publisher makes its money through Volume sales. Trust me, WSJ has no interest in ending Bleach because it would be stupid from them if they would. They want it to keep going as long as Kubo can stretch it. The ranking does not matter for it. Look at Mago, it ranks terrible, sells less and is still going because it sells really well.
I don't follow any interviews but what I heard from people who do is that
a) Kubo said he will keep the Manga runing for 10 years.
b) this will be the longest arc yet
c) for him the Visored, hueco mundo and the fake town are "one arc" and that "saga" took 5(?) years to complete
So from all those statements on should except Bleach to keep going for 9 years and if anybody in Jump can stretch it this long than it is Kubo.
Interesting. So Kubo point of view is different, what he calls an arc is a saga with a lot of arcs. Ok, on this train of thought, maybe it can take 5 years
As for how long Bleach is gonna last, realize that the editorsmay try to get him to end it faster than he wants, to keep the author's reputation up and keep the series from declining and encourage a new series by the author. But Kubo can probably do what he wants at this point. And it's lost its luster, and isn't really going to be increasing unless Kubo really comes up with an interesting plot. That or he goes a Jojo's Bizarre Adventure route and just changes the main character and the story
As for all the Bleach talk, I doubt Jump is going to force Bleach to end unless it drops really low (both in TOC and volume sales). Even if it does, they'll probably have hope he can pick it up or something. Though I'd rather have it end, stretching out a series for too long isn't good and imo Bleach is already boring enough.
What a silly conversation. Bleach is not ending any time soon. Kubo claims this is the last arc, the editors will give him the time to finish it, even if TOC rankings are not what they once were. We all know that Bleach will be around for two or three more years.
You misunderstood me there. What I meant was it is not ending but slowly laying the foundation to its end instead, hence the final arc. That is contrary to Kubo's wishing for it to last another 10 year. Also, I never said it ending anytime soon.
Why does everybody remember that comment of his but nobody remembers what he said before that one which stated "After this arc, I plan to have a small arc and than a big final arc" and which ended up coming true? The 10 years comment was either just a joke or him stating that he COULD go for 10 more years thanks to sales.

The fact that we are entering the final arc is Kubo's decision, not WSJ's (who would actually prefer that it went on as long as possible).
the bold one is the answer,
The 10 years comment was either just a joke or him stating that he COULD go for 10 more years thanks to sales.
 

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there is a misunderstanding with that statement from kubo,
lets take a look before jump into the bandwagon, shall we ?

this is a conversation between some member from certain manga forum




















the bold one is the answer,
The 10 years comment was either just a joke or him stating that he COULD go for 10 more years thanks to sales.
Lol at kubo for trying to continue the series for sales. But still this arc will be longer than the arcs.
But anyway it doesn't Matter how long it is he will still ruin the potential of this arc
 

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Lol at kubo for trying to continue the series for sales. But still this arc will be longer than the arcs.
But anyway it doesn't Matter how long it is he will still ruin the potential of this arc
nah its not like that, he imply that he can still continue his series even with low rating in WSJ thanks to the past sales and his huge fandom, not because he want to make money from the final arc and doing it for 10 years,

idk whats wrong with you, 1st you say kubo will ruin it because he want to make it continue for 10 years, and then i told you that was wrong and yet after all that you still saying he will ruin it,:shrug:

it looks like its not kubo fault, its your mindset that always think kubo will ruin this arc, with that kind of mindset no matter what the mangaka did nothing will get through you,

in fact since kubo started this final arc in this new year double issue in WSJ bleach has ranked twice above naruto and stayed in the top 3, for 3 weeks after that before fail in 9 placed in the last issue,

all in one is not that bad and its just getting good with all this quincy thingy,
 

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nah its not like that, he imply that he can still continue his series even with low rating in WSJ thanks to the past sales and his huge fandom, not because he want to make money from the final arc and doing it for 10 years,

idk whats wrong with you, 1st you say kubo will ruin it because he want to make it continue for 10 years, and then i told you that was wrong and yet after all that you still saying he will ruin it,:shrug:

it looks like its not kubo fault, its your mindset that always think kubo will ruin this arc, with that kind of mindset no matter what the mangaka did nothing will get through you,

in fact since kubo started this final arc in this new year double issue in WSJ bleach has ranked twice above naruto and stayed in the top 3, for 3 weeks after that before fail in 9 placed in the last issue,

all in one is not that bad and its just getting good with all this quincy thingy,
My point is that this arc will be long and long arcs in bleach are always boring.
Lol it's still ranking low no matter what. Naruto has been bad for the past 3 months yet it still ranks in the top three.

Jump #23 (16/04) :
Koisome Momiji (Cover & Lead Color Page, New Series, 54 pg.)
Gintama
Toriko
Kuroko no Basket (Color Page)
Naruto
One Piece
Nisekoi
Hq!!
Sket Dance
Beelzebub
Magico (Color Page)
Inumaru Dashi
Pajama na Kanojo
Bleach
Kochikame
Reborn!
Medaka Box
Nurarihyon no Mago
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

#24:
Lead CP: PSI Kusuo Saiki (New Series)
CP: Koisome Momiji, Medaka Box, Reborn!
 
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My point is that this arc will be long and long arcs in bleach are always boring.
Lol it's still ranking low no matter what. Naruto has been bad for the past 3 months yet it still ranks in the top three.

Jump #23 (16/04) :
Koisome Momiji (Cover & Lead Color Page, New Series, 54 pg.)
Gintama
Toriko
Kuroko no Basket (Color Page)
Naruto
One Piece
Nisekoi
Hq!!
Sket Dance
Beelzebub
Magico (Color Page)
Inumaru Dashi
Pajama na Kanojo
Bleach
Kochikame
Reborn!
Medaka Box
Nurarihyon no Mago
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

#24:
Lead CP: PSI Kusuo Saiki (New Series)
CP: Koisome Momiji, Medaka Box, Reborn!
i did say bleach ranked low in the last issue, so whats your point ?
and its only you who think naruto chapter in these past 3 month is bad, while there is a millions people out there in japan who think otherwise:sy:

and again how do you know that long arc in bleach is always boring ?
its just your personal opinion which why i said the problem is your mindset

BOLD: oh really ?

JUMP ToC #18

Medaka Box (Front Cover, Lead Color Page)
BLEACH
ONE PIECE
SKET DANCE
Bakuman
Toriko (Center Color Page)
Pajama na Kanojo
Haikyū!!
Inumarudashii
magico
Katekyō Hitman REBORN!
Kurogane
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
ST&RS

Kuroko no Basket Side:
Kuroko no Basket (Back Cover, Lead Color Page)
NARUTO
Gintama
Nisekoi
Kochikame
Koi Wo Suru Edison (Center Color Page, One Shot, 25 pages)
BEELZEBUB
Nurarihyon no Mago

JUMP ToC #17


NARUTO (Cover, Lead Color Page)
Toriko
ONE PIECE
BLEACH
Haikyū!!
Rock Lee no Seishun Full Power Ninden (Center Color Page, One Shot)
Pajama na Kanojo。
Gintama
Bakuman。
Katekyō Hitman REBORN!
magico (Center Color Page, 23 pages)
SKET DANCE
BEELZEBUB
Nisekoi (Center Color Page)
Medaka Box
Kurogane
Kochikame
Inumarudashii
Kuroko no Basuke
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Nurarihyon no Mago
ST&RS

JUMP ToC #15


BEELZEBUB (Cover, Lead Color Page, 3rd Anniversary)
ONE PIECE
NARUTO
BLEACH
Haikyū!!
Kurogane (Center Color Page)
Pajama na Kanojo。 (23 pages)
Toriko
Bakuman。 (Center Color Page)
Gintama
magico
Nisekoi
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Medaka Box (Center Color Page)
SKET DANCE
Inumarudashii
Katekyō Hitman REBORN!
Kochikame
Nurarihyon no Mago
Kuroko no Basuke
ST&RS
HUNTERxHUNTER

JUMP ToC #13


Pajama na Kanojo by Hamada Kosuke (Cover, Lead Color Page, New Series, 54 pages)
NARUTO
Toriko
BLEACH
SKET DANCE
BEELZEBUB
High Kyuu!! (Color Page, 25 pages)
Gintama
Katekyo Hitman REBORN! (Color Page)
Nisekoi
Bakuman
Kurogane
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Medaka Box (Color Page)
Inumarudashii
Kuroko no Basuke
Kochikame
Nurarihyon no Mago
magico
HUNTER X HUNTER
ST&RS
ONE PIECE (Absent)

look there.... don't just said random things
 

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i did say bleach ranked low in the last issue, so whats your point ?
and its only you who think naruto chapter in these past 3 month is bad, while there is a millions people out there in japan who think otherwise:sy:

and again how do you know that long arc in bleach is always boring ?
its just your personal opinion which why i said the problem is your mindset

BOLD: oh really ?

JUMP ToC #18

Medaka Box (Front Cover, Lead Color Page)
BLEACH
ONE PIECE
SKET DANCE
Bakuman
Toriko (Center Color Page)
Pajama na Kanojo
Haikyū!!
Inumarudashii
magico
Katekyō Hitman REBORN!
Kurogane
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
ST&RS

Kuroko no Basket Side:
Kuroko no Basket (Back Cover, Lead Color Page)
NARUTO
Gintama
Nisekoi
Kochikame
Koi Wo Suru Edison (Center Color Page, One Shot, 25 pages)
BEELZEBUB
Nurarihyon no Mago

JUMP ToC #17


NARUTO (Cover, Lead Color Page)
Toriko
ONE PIECE
BLEACH
Haikyū!!
Rock Lee no Seishun Full Power Ninden (Center Color Page, One Shot)
Pajama na Kanojo。
Gintama
Bakuman。
Katekyō Hitman REBORN!
magico (Center Color Page, 23 pages)
SKET DANCE
BEELZEBUB
Nisekoi (Center Color Page)
Medaka Box
Kurogane
Kochikame
Inumarudashii
Kuroko no Basuke
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Nurarihyon no Mago
ST&RS

JUMP ToC #15


BEELZEBUB (Cover, Lead Color Page, 3rd Anniversary)
ONE PIECE
NARUTO
BLEACH
Haikyū!!
Kurogane (Center Color Page)
Pajama na Kanojo。 (23 pages)
Toriko
Bakuman。 (Center Color Page)
Gintama
magico
Nisekoi
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Medaka Box (Center Color Page)
SKET DANCE
Inumarudashii
Katekyō Hitman REBORN!
Kochikame
Nurarihyon no Mago
Kuroko no Basuke
ST&RS
HUNTERxHUNTER

JUMP ToC #13


Pajama na Kanojo by Hamada Kosuke (Cover, Lead Color Page, New Series, 54 pages)
NARUTO
Toriko
BLEACH
SKET DANCE
BEELZEBUB
High Kyuu!! (Color Page, 25 pages)
Gintama
Katekyo Hitman REBORN! (Color Page)
Nisekoi
Bakuman
Kurogane
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Medaka Box (Color Page)
Inumarudashii
Kuroko no Basuke
Kochikame
Nurarihyon no Mago
magico
HUNTER X HUNTER
ST&RS
ONE PIECE (Absent)

look there.... don't just said random things

Jump #21-22 (16/04) :
One Piece (Cover & Lead Color Page)
Naruto
Toriko
Sket Dance
Gintama
Beelzebub (Color Page, 24 pg.)
Pajama na Kanojo
Cross Manege (Color Page, One Shot, 47 pg.)
Kochikame
Bleach
Nisekoi
Inumaru Dashi
Hq!! (23 pg.)
Magico
Reborn!
Kurogane
Nurarihyon no Mago
Bakuman (Color Page, End)
Kuroko no Basket
Medaka Box
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

#20 :
Kochi Kame (Lead Color, Cover)
One Piece
Naruto
Beelzebub
Sket Dance
Hq!! (Color)
Toriko
Gintama
Mutô Black / Daijirô Nonoue (Oneshot, Color, 47p)
Nisekoi (Color)
Bakuman
Kuroko no Basket
Inumaru Dashi
Kanojo na Pajama
Bleach
Katekyô Hitman Reborn!
Kurogane
Magico
Nuratihyon no Mago
Medaka Box
Pakki
Stars (End)

#21-22 :

One Piece (Lead Color)
Beelzebub (Color, 24 pages)
Bakuman (Color)
Kaito / Cross Manage (Oneshot, Color, 47 pages)
Hq!! (23 pages)

Of course it's my opinion.
 
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Jump #21-22 (16/04) :
One Piece (Cover & Lead Color Page)
Naruto
Toriko
Sket Dance
Gintama
Beelzebub (Color Page, 24 pg.)
Pajama na Kanojo
Cross Manege (Color Page, One Shot, 47 pg.)
Kochikame
Bleach
Nisekoi
Inumaru Dashi
Hq!! (23 pg.)
Magico
Reborn!
Kurogane
Nurarihyon no Mago
Bakuman (Color Page, End)
Kuroko no Basket
Medaka Box
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

#20 :
Kochi Kame (Lead Color, Cover)
One Piece
Naruto
Beelzebub
Sket Dance
Hq!! (Color)
Toriko
Gintama
Mutô Black / Daijirô Nonoue (Oneshot, Color, 47p)
Nisekoi (Color)
Bakuman
Kuroko no Basket
Inumaru Dashi
Kanojo na Pajama
Bleach
Katekyô Hitman Reborn!
Kurogane
Magico
Nuratihyon no Mago
Medaka Box
Pakki
Stars (End)

#21-22 :

One Piece (Lead Color)
Beelzebub (Color, 24 pages)
Bakuman (Color)
Kaito / Cross Manage (Oneshot, Color, 47 pages)
Hq!! (23 pages)

Of course it's my opinion.
????? what you want to prove sonny ?
i already show you that your BS about bleach always ranked low no matter what is wrong:sy:
 

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Well last year it always ranked low so what do you expect. When it stays in the top 3 that's when I will admit I am wrong. :scorps:
My expectations for this arc are low.
So why don't you stop arguing and get out of here and leave this section of NB to the Bleach fans. If Kubo can do it once, he can do it again. If you want to think this arc is going to be crap then keep that opinion to yourself and go read Pokemon or something because no one really cares whether your expectations are high or not.
 

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So why don't you stop arguing and get out of here and leave this section of NB to the Bleach fans. If Kubo can do it once, he can do it again. If you want to think this arc is going to be crap then keep that opinion to yourself and go read Pokemon or something because no one really cares whether your expectations are high or not.
First of all, I wasn't talking to you.
You know what, now that you mentioned pokemon.
Pokemon>>>>>>>>>Bleach.xd
It looks like i can't even have my own opinion.:sy:
 
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First of all, I wasn't talking to you.
You know what, now that you mentioned pokemon.
Pokemon>>>>>>>>>Bleach.xd
It looks like i can't even have my own opinion.:sy:
It doesn't really matter if you're talking to me or not. This is a public forum.

Again, Pokemon > Bleach is your own opinion and here in the Bleach section, Bleach fans don't give a crap about your negative opinions. So if you're going to be negative you may as well stop arguing with the Bleach fans and keep your opinion to yourself.
 

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It doesn't really matter if you're talking to me or not. This is a public forum.

Again, Pokemon > Bleach is your own opinion and here in the Bleach section, Bleach fans don't give a crap about your negative opinions. So if you're going to be negative you may as well stop arguing with the Bleach fans and keep your opinion to yourself.
I can't believe you think I like pokemon better than bleach. There is something called sarcasm.

I was never being negative. All I did was state my opinion and then you came up and told me to get out of the Bleach section if i don't have anything good to say.
 

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I can't believe you think I like pokemon better than bleach. There is something called sarcasm.

I was never being negative. All I did was state my opinion and then you came up and told me to get out of the Bleach section if i don't have anything good to say.
Oh man that was sarcasm? I can't tell the difference because you have negative opinions anyway.

You said you don't have high expectations for this final arc of Bleach. That's the same as saying Bleach is going to be full of crap because Kubo is a massive troll.
 

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Oh man that was sarcasm? I can't tell the difference because you have negative opinions anyway.

You said you don't have high expectations for this final arc of Bleach. That's the same as saying Bleach is going to be full of crap because Kubo is a massive troll.
But, I never said that, did I.
All i said was that I have low expectations for this arc. The reason behind that is because i had high expectations for a lot of bleach arcs before but they all turned out to be let downs. For example, the arrancar and fake karakura town arcs.
 

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But, I never said that, did I.
All i said was that I have low expectations for this arc. The reason behind that is because i had high expectations for a lot of bleach arcs before but they all turned out to be let downs. For example, the arrancar and fake karakura town arcs.
Obviously you never said that, you're implying it. When you say you have low expectations you're saying you think it's going to be crap.

Bleach ratings were gradually dropping before and during those arcs, so obviously the arcs were not as good as they could have been. But this is a new start for Bleach, Kubo even took time off to do some extra research. You can't compare a ruined storyline with one that's only starting right now.
 
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