Question?

Koha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
1,672
Reaction score
124

But when was that ever mentioned.....from what I remember it was only mentioned in the zabuza arc that it happened only 10-11(don't remember exactly) years prior to that time.....its only from there that u can get a timeline anyway!! :|

Zabuza was 9 at the time... Which is still before Naruto's birth. Still doesn't add up with Yagura being Mizukage at the time.
This is when Obito first became a Genin, and two years later because a Chunin... Died at 13, came back at 14, Naruto's birth.. Attacking the Leaf. Which still gives a huge inconsistent plothole.

Rin is definitely younger than Yagura, btw. Same age as Kakashi. I think even you had it mixed up.
 
Last edited:

Koha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
1,672
Reaction score
124
this pisses me off lol.
kisame saw his face and recognized him. plus they had a young body wrapped up in bandageds on the right side.
yagura was kicked out recently wasnt he? if he was jin before rin, he would die from extraction.
kisame is only 35. he would have been a baby shark at that time before rins death. tobi brought him in to akatsuki after itachi.

Kisame is older than both Obito and Kakashi. So yeah, he'd be a bit into his Shinobi career by then.

o.o ...Excuse the double post.
 

Sir Cool Blizzard

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 30, 2014
Messages
2,487
Reaction score
235
Zabuza was 9 at the time... Which is still before Naruto's birth. Still doesn't add up with Yagura being Mizukage at the time.
This is when Obito first became a Genin, and two years later because a Chunin... Died at 13, came back at 14, Naruto's birth.. Attacking the Leaf. Which still gives a huge inconsistent plothole.

Nah if u read the above comments and assume that Yagura was already a jerk, it is explainable.....Yagura already started the Bloody mist thingy (Kage at a very young age)....Rin died when Obito was 12-13......Yagura became jinchuriki of sanbi .....Obito is around 13-14 when he started controlling Yagura, met Kisame......attacked the leaf at around 15-16, Naruto born......When Naruto is about 2 years old or ten years prior to manga as mentioned by Kakashi, Zabuza kills everyone,Yagura dies after this too(although he was an adult by this time, he still looked like a kid according to databook which people often forget to take into account).....Zabuza meets Naruto/kakashi......etc!! U_U
Also Kirigakure was already reputed as the "Bloody Mist" long before Obito took control of Yagura's mind (according to databook)!!
 

Koha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
1,672
Reaction score
124

Nah if u read the above comments and assume that Yagura was already a jerk, it is explainable.....Yagura already started the Bloody mist thingy (Kage at a very young age)....Rin died when Obito was 12-13......Yagura became jinchuriki of sanbi .....Obito is around 13-14 when he started controlling Yagura, met Kisame......attacked the leaf at around 15-16, Naruto born......When Naruto is about 2 years old or ten years prior to manga as mentioned by Kakashi, Zabuza kills everyone,Yagura dies after this too(although he was an adult by this time, he still looked like a kid according to databook which people often forget to take into account).....Zabuza meets Naruto/kakashi......etc!! U_U
Also Kirigakure was already reputed as the "Bloody Mist" long before Obito took control of Yagura's mind (according to databook)!!

Still don't get the last part though, bro... Kakashi and Zabuza are the same age. Remember, Zabuza explained how the process of becoming a Genin was to kill all of your classmates, yeah, he was 9 then. His graduation age was 9 in Kishi's Databook.. Kakashi already being a Chunin by then (beginning at the age of 6).. Being just barely younger than Obito, who had to be 14 at the events of the Attack of the Leaf, since they're currently 30. While Naruto and Sasuke are 16... And things still gets referred in the manga as 16 years ago.

I don't understand the motives behind Yagura to become a jerk all of a sudden and orchestrate this mess, before Obito even unlocked a Sharingan... Or else there really wouldn't be a need to control Yagura if he was already so corrupt. Things are just all over the place. Also, how could Madara control anyone from such a distance underground...? Yeah, it says it in the Manga... But it's just so highly improbable.
 
Last edited:

Sir Cool Blizzard

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 30, 2014
Messages
2,487
Reaction score
235
Still don't get the last part though, bro... Kakashi and Zabuza are the same age. Remember, Zabuza explained how the process of becoming a Genin was to kill all of your classmates, yeah, he was 9 then. His graduation age was 9 in Kishi's Databook.. Same as Kakashi.. Being just barely younger than Obito, who had to be 14 at the events of the Attack of the Leaf, since they're currently 30. While Naruto and Sasuke are 16... And things still gets referred in the manga as 16 years ago.

I don't understand the motives behind Yagura to become a jerk all of a sudden and orchestrate this mess, before Obito even unlocked a Sharingan... Or else there really wouldn't be a need to control Yagura if he was already so corrupt. Things are just all over the place. Also, how could Madara control anyone from such a distance underground...? Yeah, it says it in the Manga... But it's just so highly improbable.
It was never mentioned that Zabuza was nine at that time Or if Kakashi and Zabuza are of the same age......it is a false assumption that many make....what was mentioned was that Zabuza killed everyone ten years ago....that is from where we will do the calcs.....the databook doesn't even mention anything about Zabuza's age.....
You must be registered for see images
Also Databook says that kirigakure came to be known as Bloody Mist long before Obito met Yagure and is exactly why it is not a plothole anymore.....since it is possible that due to bad upbringing Yagura became like that and turned Kirigakure into Bloody mist!!
I hope this clears things up!! U_U
 
Last edited:

Koha

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
1,672
Reaction score
124
It was never mentioned that Zabuza was nine at that time Or if Kakashi and Zabuza are of the same age......it is a false assumption that many make....what was mentioned was that Zabuza killed everyone ten years ago....that is from where we will do the calcs.....the databook doesn't even mention anything about Zabuza's age.....
You must be registered for see images
Also Databook says that kirigakure came to be known as Bloody Mist long before Obito met Yagure and is exactly why it is not a plothole anymore.....since it is possible that due to bad upbringing Yagura became like that and turned Kirigakure into Bloody mist!!
I hope this clears things up!! U_U

That would render Zabuza a teen though... His Databook entry says he graduated at 9...
Kishi dug himself in an inconsistent plothole, where he's 26 years old at his death, but his graduation to Genin being only 10 years ago?

Plothole. That would mean Zabuza would be only a teenager now, or he was 16 when he became a Genin........ Which is much too unlikely.

Birthdate Astrological Sign Leo August 15
Gender Gender Male Male
Age
Part I: 26
Status Deceased
Height
Part I: 183 cm
Weight
Part I: 72 kg
Blood type A
Classification
Missing-nin
Mercenary Ninja
Affiliation
Kirigakure
Team
Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist
Partner
Haku
Rank
Ninja Rank
Part I: Anbu
Academy Grad. Age 9


His age was in the Databook, and it's been consistent.... Kishi made a plothole in this.


 
Last edited:
Top