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Okay, earlier a friend of mine and I had a talk about the whole revelation again about Obito
being Tobi all the way up until now with most of the Manga going down hard. So, if Zabuza graduated
at 9 from the Academy by killing all of his classmates (After the beginning of the Bloodmist Era)

WHO IN THE HELL WAS CONTROLLING YAGURA????? If Obito is around the same age just barely older than Kakashi.. Obito just becoming a Genin at this time and Madara left on life support. :mad:_@:
 
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Madara Uchiha himself.. like how he controlled the mist to do Rin in and seal her.. Don't know how but it just is
 

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Nobody was controlling Yagura at the time. Yagura was just an ass.
 

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My question is why kisame never called tobi mizukage like zabuza did
 

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Nobody was controlling Yagura at the time. Yagura was just an ass.

Through meeting Naruto, we both know that's completely untrue.
 

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Through meeting Naruto, we both know that's completely untrue.

And yet Obito indirectly killed both Naruto's parents, now he's nice to Naruto.

Yagura was an ass.
 

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And yet Obito indirectly killed both Naruto's parents, now he's nice to Naruto.

Yagura was an ass.

His personality doesn't match his actions.
 

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Now lets see....Zabuza massacred everyone 10 years prior to the manga which led to the abolition of this brutal exam in the mist as Kakashi stated i.e. Naruto was 2 at that time, Minato and Kushina had died.....Obito had two years after Kyuubi attack on Konoha.....he was around 15-16 during Konoha attack and around 12-13 when he supposedly died....so after his death there were around five years before the mist ended their brutal shit......so it is quite possible that he controlled Yagura for a couple of years in between these five years.......Yagura was pretty young too.....so its not that unacceptable!! :O
 

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no idea about bloody mist.
no idea what madara meant by having rin abducted was his plan.
obito did it whenever he had long hair. around the uchiha massacre time.
 

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no idea about bloody mist.
no idea what madara meant by having rin abducted was his plan.
obito did it whenever he had long hair. around the uchiha massacre time.
No...not really .....Bloody mist had already ended ten years prior to the manga that is when naruto was 2......and Uchiha massacre happened later!! U_U
I think after Rin died ....Yagura was made the jinchuriki and that is when he lost his sane and started Bloody mist....OR Obito manipulated him as soon he became the jinchuriki when obito was around 15 i.e. even before Konoha Kyuubi incident!! U_U
 
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the bloody mist already existed when rin was taken. thats what they were saying.

i meant obito controlled yagura whenever he had looong hair, like when he helped itachi.
 

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the bloody mist already existed when rin was taken. thats what they were saying.

i meant obito controlled yagura whenever he had looong hair, like when he helped itachi.

But when was that ever mentioned.....from what I remember it was only mentioned in the zabuza arc that it happened only 10-11(don't remember exactly) years prior to that time.....its only from there that u can get a timeline anyway!! :|
 

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yea it matches
 

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yea it matches

Then that means Bloody mist happened many years prior to this event and Obito's genjutsu on Yagura was not the reason....
So either Yagura was a scoundrel already but became the jinchuriki and was controlled by Obito later
Or..Madara was the one controlling him and he was the jinchuriki before Rin....Obito never met him, he died before Obito's death !!
 

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this pisses me off lol.
kisame saw his face and recognized him. plus they had a young body wrapped up in bandageds on the right side.
yagura was kicked out recently wasnt he? if he was jin before rin, he would die from extraction.
kisame is only 35. he would have been a baby shark at that time before rins death. tobi brought him in to akatsuki after itachi.
 
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Nobody was controlling Yagura at the time. Yagura was just an ass.

Wrong the Manga clearly states both Madara and Obito controlled Yagura and Kissame knew about it.
 

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umm if obito knew madara controlled yagura, he would know somethings up....

''madara'' was.

bloody mist was known for civil wars. i guess thats why its bloody lol.
 

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this pisses me off lol.
kisame saw his face and recognized him. plus they had a young body wrapped up in bandageds on the right side.
yagura was kicked out recently wasnt he? if he was jin before rin, he would die from extraction.
kisame is only 35. he would have been a baby shark at that time before rins death. tobi brought him in to akatsuki after itachi.

So that means Yagura was already like that......Obito's role came later on.....and maybe just prior to his death Yagura changed .....maybe!! :|
 

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I guess It should be Obito controlling Yagura. Obito was having a couple of years.
 
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