[Discussion] Question about CP9

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When CP9 were at that mansion with ice-berg and when they were fighting luffy. Luffy kicked Blueno to the face and Blueno said something about how he trained himself so hes able to harden his skin as it was an iron shell. Is he referring to armament haki or is it something different?
 

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It is Tekkai which is basically like self discipline into not feeling the pain of attacks...had it been Armorment Haki, he would've changed into a black skin coating.
 

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Yea but that one that hardens your skin, that one is different from armament haki right? Armament is stronger right? O_O
No, it's armament. It's the thing they use to penetrate logia, the one that Luffy and Vergo for example use when "metallizing" and what CP9 refers to as Tekkai
 

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you guys don't pay attention what you watch/read? tekkai isn't haki, nowhere near that... and come on hit a logia with TEKKAI? wtf?

The Tekkai (鉄塊 Tekkai?, literally meaning "Iron Mass" or "Iron Body") hardens the users' muscles to the level of iron, in order to nullify damage taken from attacks. However, it can be broken by strong enough forces such as Luffy's various Gears, Zoro's Shishi Sonson and Tatsumaki, Sanji's Diable Jambe and Franky's Strong Hammer.

When Tekkai is active, the user is unable to move, with the exception of Jabra's Tekkai Kenpo. Tekkai can also be used to enhance the users attacks by the increased density one gets from using Tekkai, similar to Busoshoku Haki.

The strength of Tekkai can vary for users with different physical conditions, as a person with a higher level of muscular strength would be able to take stronger forces and enhance attacks with his/her use of Tekkai. Furthermore, despite the increased physical density that one gains when activating this move, one should remember that the user's body is still flesh and blood. Thus, its resistance to other than solid attacks remain pretty much the same, making the user as vulnerable as ever to certain attacks. An example was during Sanji's fight with Jabra where he used the burning force of friction to incinerate through the latter's Tekkai or when Franky used his actual iron fist to break through Fukuro's Tekkai. As such, even masters of Tekkai are far from indestructible, though Rob Lucci was able to resist even cannonballs at the age of 13.

In the Viz Manga and FUNimation subs, this is called Iron Body.
 

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Tekkai is one of the six rokushiki techniques. It hardens your body to the point of steel with no physical or cosmetic difference in appearance. However you cannot do it while moving so you have to stay completely stationary when using it.
Arnament Haki can be used to harden your body while moving so it is much more efficient. It can also be used to hit Logias'.
 

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you guys don't pay attention what you watch/read? tekkai isn't haki, nowhere near that... and come on hit a logia with TEKKAI? wtf?

The Tekkai (鉄塊 Tekkai?, literally meaning "Iron Mass" or "Iron Body") hardens the users' muscles to the level of iron, in order to nullify damage taken from attacks. However, it can be broken by strong enough forces such as Luffy's various Gears, Zoro's Shishi Sonson and Tatsumaki, Sanji's Diable Jambe and Franky's Strong Hammer.

When Tekkai is active, the user is unable to move, with the exception of Jabra's Tekkai Kenpo. Tekkai can also be used to enhance the users attacks by the increased density one gets from using Tekkai, similar to Busoshoku Haki.

The strength of Tekkai can vary for users with different physical conditions, as a person with a higher level of muscular strength would be able to take stronger forces and enhance attacks with his/her use of Tekkai. Furthermore, despite the increased physical density that one gains when activating this move, one should remember that the user's body is still flesh and blood. Thus, its resistance to other than solid attacks remain pretty much the same, making the user as vulnerable as ever to certain attacks. An example was during Sanji's fight with Jabra where he used the burning force of friction to incinerate through the latter's Tekkai or when Franky used his actual iron fist to break through Fukuro's Tekkai. As such, even masters of Tekkai are far from indestructible, though Rob Lucci was able to resist even cannonballs at the age of 13.

In the Viz Manga and FUNimation subs, this is called Iron Body.
My bad, tekkai and haki can't be the same because you can't infuse arrows with tekkai, lol.
I was thinking it was the same thing like mantra and observation haki are
 
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