"Purple Lightning is on the same level as Chidori/Raikiri"

[Vulpini]

I think kakashi learned purple lightning after the fact so we don't know it's full potential so maybe it could of destroyed the meteor

Not really, in the novel it was stated that he developed the technique right after losing the Sharingan, following the war.

The events in The Last took place two years after the war so he already had it.

Purple lightning is a discount version of Chidori. If it was as powerful, he would have used it to destroy the meteor, but instead, he just stood there, helpless, while Sasuke did the job with his Chidori.

 

[Nick01]

Sasuke has rikudou chakra buff, kakashi doesn't.

Rikudou chakra fuled techniques >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same technique fuled by normal chakra

And yet the sad trolls in this thread fail to grasp something so simple.

Truly I pity them. :|

 

[Styles]

Supposedly Sasuke's Chidori from the last was sage powered lol. When in fact that's wrong a sage powered Chidori is black as shown in the manga.

 

[Vulpini]

Supposedly Sasuke's Chidori from the last was sage powered lol. When in fact that's wrong a sage powered Chidori is black as shown in the manga.

Yeah.

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This is how a Sage Chidori looks like.

 

[Jiren]

Well i'm sure with Training he could train himself/His eyes to over come the tunnel vision problem. I think it's more lazy just to scrap the idea of him using Raikiri rather than train himself to use it without his sharingan.

I would like to see what Kakashi has to say about his new technique. If he demonstrates it in the manga we would have more to go off by. There is just amount of chance of this new technique being an improvised version as well as an improved version.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

The reason I din' quote your post head-on is to show you that you're a no concern to me. Lmfao and what? You expect me to tackle this ridiculous post of yours as if I've got any time for it?

There you go. Them grammar mistakes. Its "you're" not "your", Mr Holy genius of NB. And how come you're so sure and fine about your ridiculous fallacy as if its fact? Gaara's sand bled, the reason why he said "Mother, Blood, blood!" when chidori pierced the sand but didnt pierce him. So where couldve the blood possibly come from? And this is where you get your ass handed back to you when you act too oversmart with grown-ups.

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what would you call that thing sasuke holds in his left hand? I think its called a sword merged with stream, specifically a chidori stream; but I bet you'd twist the word and create some other or even a whole new dictionary of words to your liking.

It’s funny you brought up grammar in the first place, and still manage to post something with so many errors in itself. Anywho, the manga and anime literally show sasuke in fact does hit gaara, it’s gaaras blood. Secondly, not only does sasuke not need his sword to do that, the last time we see the sword is in madaras hand after he pulls it out of his chest after being ameno’d by sasuke. We never actually see sasuke get it back. So maybe it is his sword, seems unlikely given the events that transpired before sasuke cuts madara in half. It makes more sense he just used it without the sword, as he’s already shown that level of raiton control against bee and danzo

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Are you serious? :kk:

You know there is something called OUTPUT?

Exactly why Kakashi's Purple lightning here:

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Isn't as lethal here:

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and even less lethal here:

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If Sasuke used PL for that asteroid as well with the same power output he used with his chidori it wouldn't change the outcome

Unless you think Sasuke's part 1 chidori can do the same feat as the gif

Yeah, yeah. True Kakashi fans like myself acknowledge the fact he's pretty weak now. We've never loved him for his strength anyway. We love him for his personality.

Sasuke >>>>>>>>>> Kakashi, in strength.
But Kakashi >>>>>>>>>> Sasuke, as a character.

It is funny since when Kakashi got double MS and PS he outshinned Sasuke by a long shot and dealt Damage to Kaguya when Sasuke and his PS were struggling

let alone before that even when he didn't have the Sharringan he Saved himself, Sakura and Obito from falling into the lava


Anyway PL is Kakashi taking his old move and completing it

it is better in every way

 

[uhmusddy]

Sasuke’s chidori was rikudo chakra boosted & no that’s not the same as senjutsu boosted


Sasuke only had senjutsu to utilize from the curse mark 1st and then the moon seal 2nd
Or else he’s an idiot for not using it in vote2

 

[Vulpini]

Are you serious? :kk:

You know there is something called OUTPUT?

Exactly why Kakashi's Purple lightning here:
Isn't as lethal here:

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and even less lethal here:

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If Sasuke used PL for that asteroid as well with the same power output he used with his chidori it wouldn't change the outcome

Unless you think Sasuke's part 1 chidori can do the same feat as the gif




It is funny since when Kakashi got double MS and PS he outshinned Sasuke by a long shot and dealt Damage to Kaguya when Sasuke and his PS were struggling

let alone before that even when he didn't have the Sharringan he Saved himself, Sakura and Obito from falling into the lava


Anyway PL is Kakashi taking his old move and completing it

it is better in every way

What does this post has to do with anything I said?

If Purple Lightning were that powerful, Kakashi would've managed to chose an output that would've placed it on the same tier as a OP Raikiri and he would've destroyed the meteor by himself, but he didn't. Therefore, even if Kakashi can manipulate his Purple Lightning's output, doesn't mean it is strong. He can choose the best output possible, and still, it will not be on the same level as a Raikiri.

Sasuke’s chidori was rikudo chakra boosted & no that’s not the same as senjutsu boosted


Sasuke only had senjutsu to utilize from the curse mark 1st and then the moon seal 2nd
Or else he’s an idiot for not using it in vote2

Nah, it's the same. Sasuke's chidori at the meteor wasn't Rikudou chakra boosted.

Sasuke's Rikudou Enhanced Chidori = Black Chidori:

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>I'll use the Six Paths chakra
>Creates a black Chidori

 

[Reviewing Logic]

What does this post has to do with anything I said?

If Purple Lightning were that powerful, Kakashi would've managed to chose an output that would've placed it on the same tier as a OP Raikiri and he would've destroyed the meteor by himself, but he didn't. Therefore, even if Kakashi can manipulate his Purple Lightning's output, doesn't mean it is strong. He can choose the best output possible, and still, it will not be on the same level as a Raikiri.

you don't understand your own statement then

that isn't the PL fault it is the lack of POWER Kakashi has compared to Sasuke

Unless you think Kakashi with Rakiri coul'dve blown up that meteor (toss aside the tunnel vision)

or do you think Sasuke's part one chidori could've done the same feat


or heck if Sasuke mastered PL and did the same amount of output that he did in the LAST what is stopping his PL from blowing it up

 

[take it easy]

Supposedly Sasuke's Chidori from the last was sage powered lol. When in fact that's wrong a sage powered Chidori is black as shown in the manga.

Chidori from Sage chakra boosted character isnt the same thing as senjutsu chakra infused Chidori that Sasuke used against Madara.

 

[Vulpini]

you don't understand your own statement then

that isn't the PL fault it is the lack of POWER Kakashi has compared to Sasuke

Unless you think Kakashi with Rakiri coul'dve blown up that meteor (toss aside the tunnel vision)

If Kakashi had a Sharingan, he could've used Raikiri and it would've destroyed the meteor. But that's because Raikiri > Purple Lightning, not because of the Sharingan enhancement.

or do you think Sasuke's part one chidori could've done the same feat

No, I don't think P1 Sasuke Chidori would've destroyed the meteor, but that's because Sasuke was a child and he had not mastered his Chidori to the fullest yet, plus the fact that he lacks experience as a kid.

It's dumb to compare a grown ass Adult Hokage Kakashi with P1 child Sasuke tbh.

I definitely think P2 Sasuke Chidori could've done the same feat, though, but that's because he had more experience and had mastered Chidori already.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

If Kakashi had a Sharingan, he could've used Raikiri and it would've destroyed the meteor. But that's because Raikiri > Purple Lightning, not because of the Sharingan enhancement.


No, I don't think P1 Sasuke Chidori would've destroyed the meteor, but that's because Sasuke was a child and he had not mastered his Chidori to the fullest yet.

It's dumb to compare Adult Kakashi with P1 child Sasuke tbh.

I definitely think P2 Sasuke Chidori could've done the same feat, though, but that's because he had more experience and had mastered Chidori already.

Again I can't say what Kakashi's chakra output was during the time he had Obito's eye

but I can't say if he could or couldn't blown up that meteorite with his Rikiri

there is also plot to have Sasuke in a movie to get $$$$


you can also say he didn't master his new tech yet either since it was a few months after making it that the LAST happened


what made that Chidori lethal is what Sasuke was at that time and his chakra output and chakra lethality/control


I can assume like your Kakashi Raikiri statement that Sasuke with PL could destroy that falling meteorite


again it is about the person and not the move

 

[Vulpini]

Again I can't say what Kakashi's chakra output was during the time he had Obito's eye

but I can't say if he could or couldn't blown up that meteorite with his Rikiri

there is also plot to have Sasuke in a movie to get $$$$


you can also say he didn't master his new tech yet either since it was a few months after making it that the LAST happened


what made that Chidori lethal is what Sasuke was at that time and his chakra output and chakra lethality/control


I can assume like your Kakashi Raikiri statement that Sasuke with PL could destroy that falling meteorite


again it is about the person and not the move

Nah, you're wrong.

The movie clearly shows Kakashi helpless and frozen against the meteor. I advise you to watch the scene again. It clearly portrays how powerless Kakashi was against the meteor - If he had something up on his sleeve, trust me, he would've used it, but he shat his pants instead and did nothing. If he thought the Purple Lightning could do anything, he would've at least tried, but he did nothing.

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What I see > your excuses.

Ty and Sasuke's weakest Chidori > the Strongest Purple Lightning you've ever seen.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Nah, you're wrong.

The movie clearly shows Kakashi helpless and frozen against the meteor. I advise you to watch the scene again. It clearly portrays how powerless Kakashi was against the meteor - If he had something up on his sleeve, trust me, he would've used it, but he shat his pants instead and did nothing. If he thought the Purple Lightning could do anything, he would've at least tried, but he did nothing.

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What I see > your excuses.

Ty and Sasuke's weakest Chidori > the Strongest Purple Lightning you've ever seen.

Again your wrong

you even admited to my point with your replies, especially the kid Sasuke one


you can train Chidori... you can train PL

Sasuke has better chakra output then Kakashi that is a fact


Sasuke with PL would be a stronger PL


this isn't hard to get it is all about OUTPUT since it is just a basic lightning attack that is only about expelling it


what sets PL apart is that it is more efficient since you need no seals, etc...

 

[Vulpini]

Again your wrong

you even admited to my point with your replies, especially the kid Sasuke one


you can train Chidori... you can train PL

Sasuke has better chakra output then Kakashi that is a fact


Sasuke with PL would be a stronger PL


this isn't hard to get it is all about OUTPUT since it is just a basic lightning attack that is only about expelling it


what sets PL apart is that it is more efficient since you need no seals, etc...

No, that's not my point.

Let me make it simple for you:

Sasuke with Chidori > Sasuke with PL

Kakashi with Raikiri > Kakashi with PL

PL is a discount version of the technique, whether you like it or not. The novel clarified that Kakashi created it because he lost the Sharingan, so we can only assume it's a weaker version of the original technique, and there's absolutely nothing to back up the claim that PL is stronger or is at least on the same level as Chidori - anything you can come up with is just fanfic/assumptions.

I don't really care if PL can be trained or not, at the end of the day Chidori/Raikiri >>>>>

 

[Reviewing Logic]

No, that's not my point.

Let me make it simple for you:

Sasuke with Chidori > Sasuke with PL

Kakashi with Raikiri > Kakashi with PL

PL is a discount version of the technique, whether you like it or not. The novel clarified that Kakashi created it because he lost the Sharingan, so we can only assume it's a weaker version of the original technique, and there's absolutely nothing to back up the claim that PL is stronger or is at least on the same level as Chidori - anything you can come up with is just fanfic/assumptions.

I don't really care if PL can be trained or not, at the end of the day Chidori/Raikiri >>>>>

how do you know Sasuke with PL < Sasuke with Chidori?

your whole Kakashi with Chidori > Kakashi PL is made up

you can say feats but I don't remember Kakashi blowing up something that huge

let alone we don't know if the Sharringan gave him something extra

Now then I will say what I said in the last thread.... ANY statement that says PL is weaker then Chidori/Rakiri?

I'll wait for evidence.

 

[King Of Pop]

Again your wrong

you even admited to my point with your replies, especially the kid Sasuke one


you can train Chidori... you can train PL

Sasuke has better chakra output then Kakashi that is a fact


Sasuke with PL would be a stronger PL


this isn't hard to get it is all about OUTPUT since it is just a basic lightning attack that is only about expelling it


what sets PL apart is that it is more efficient since you need no seals, etc...

chidori can be used without seals as well so no that doesn't set PL apart

 

[Vulpini]

how do you know Sasuke with PL < Sasuke with Chidori

your whole Kakashi with Chidori > Kakashi PL is made up

you can say feats but I don't remember Kakashi blowing up something that huge

let alone we don't know if the Sharringan gave him something extra

@Bold: because thanks to Chidori, Sasuke became a literal Lightning God. Such a thing as Purple Lightning is superfluous to him.

And let's be honest, he's the best lightning user there is, if he wanted PL, he'd probably have it, but apparently, Chidori still works best for him.

I don't work with assumptions/fanfictional speculations like you do, I only believe what I see.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

chidori can be used without seals as well so no that doesn't set PL apart

come on

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only time they do it without signs is after doing the Chidori or lightning sign first and thus not needing to change their chakra nature

@Bold: because thanks to Chidori, Sasuke became a literal Lightning God. Such a thing as Purple Lightning is superfluous to him.

And let's be honest, he's the best lightning user there is, if he wanted PL, he'd probably have it, but apparently, Chidori still works best for him.

I don't work with assumptions/fanfictional speculations like you do, I only believe what I see.

Again praise without any backing

what is stopping him from not doing the same with Kakashi's other move?

If he is the BEST lightning user there is then he would be the best at PL and its output, no?



LOOK I'll spell it out to you since you don't realize it yet, you aren't arguing against PL rather you are arguing against Sasuke not having the MOVE.


This isn't Kakashi vs Sasuke.

Both moves are made by Kakashi.


So if you want to argue PL vs Chidori then do it with Sasuke using PL and Sasuke using Chidori.