Puppet Battle.

[Obito3631]

there no arguing with this guy jut let him be

Of course not you can't argue with manga facts and actual proofs, just leave this thread and accept your defeat.

 

[Curse Mark]

Kishi spoke through Kankuro when he said that. This is a fact that you cannot argue against.

o.o odd way of looking at it..

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

iron sand disables puppets. every fight except the second one is an unholy stompage for sasori as a result.

Kankuro > Sasori, as it was clearly stated in the manga, it is not debatable

that is kankuros opinion and he has no answer for iron sand nor a way to stop it clogging up his puppets joints. same thing with zetsu believeing pain is unbeatable

Kankuro stomps

Kankuro himself said he has surpassed him and his puppet master skills have improved. Sasori wouldn't see through his game like the last time they fought.

Not to mention he has Sasori's puppet, he will be able to counter his techniques and it is implied he already knows his every moves.

kankuro was full of himself and didnt know about sasoris full arsenal. he didnt know sasori had killed so many people that he had 298 puppets. its also implied kankuro didnt know shit about sasori killing the third and gaining his power. theres no blocking iron sand

Going by your logic Madara's opinion about Hashirama is irrelevant? He fought him in the past but his opinion is irrelevant?
Kishi spoke through Kankuro when he said that.

in that case itachis invincible, sasuke killed zabuza, sasuke captured bee, pain cant lose, amaterasus the strongest offence, and naruto is trash (tayuya called him that in part 1). none of this is true except in the opinions of the characters. if kishi is speaking through them then you must also admit kishi is telling us sasuke killed zabuza.

 

[Obito3631]

iron sand disables puppets. every fight except the second one is an unholy stompage for sasori as a result.

that is kankuros opinion and he has no answer for iron sand nor a way to stop it clogging up his puppets joints. same thing with zetsu believeing pain is unbeatable

kankuro was full of himself and didnt know about sasoris full arsenal. he didnt know sasori had killed so many people that he had 298 puppets. its also implied kankuro didnt know shit about sasori killing the third and gaining his power. theres no blocking iron sand

in that case itachis invincible, sasuke killed zabuza, sasuke captured bee, pain cant lose, amaterasus the strongest offence, and naruto is trash (tayuya called him that in part 1). none of this is true except in the opinions of the characters. if kishi is speaking through them then you must also admit kishi is telling us sasuke killed zabuza.

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It's hard to explain because you can't really compare two pupet masters strength except if you use their overall puppet mastery skills as an argument. It doesn't matter how many puppet he has, if he's inferior to Kankuro in puppet mastery he's still going to lose. Kankuro is a better puppet master, period.

Kankuro has surpassed Sasori it's a manga fact

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Sasori's puppet says otherwise. He has almost everything Chiyo possess in his arsenal and even more.

and we know for a fact chiyo wouldnt have defeated sasori without sakuras aid. actually she didnt defeat him AT ALL

No he said he has surpassed him, that implies any of his forms

hes also incorrect like when madara claims he is at the top and thus superior to hashirama. if sasori had his original puppet army as an edo kankuro would be buttfuked

he can't be more skilled in puppet mastery Kankuro said himself he is better than him.

the one time they clashed with both using puppets kankuro was raped. and kankuro can easily be wrong. he didnt see sasori go all out at any point in his life

kankuro defeated edo sasori

when?

Why would I need a counter when Kankuro has already proven to be better than Sasori in the manga and even Kishi stated it through Kankuro's speech?

the skill of a puppeteer is defined by how many one can control. chiyos level was such that she can control 10 perfectly. kishi is not speaking through kankuro here. in the same way that a villain boasting about his invincibility is not kishi telling us info we should take as fact. otherwise yes kabuto is invncible since kishi spoke through him.

The number of puppet one can control does not define the user's strength, Chiyo has proved it..

sasori said it does. chiyo was owning a bigger army of weaker puppets because sasoir cant focus that well on so many. if it was 10 vs 10 sasori would have demolished her

Current manga feats still puts Kankuro above Sasori

what feats are you talking about? so kankuros shown he can block iron sand?

fail, kankuro does have chiyos puppets in his arsenal

the forbidden ten puppet technique would take a lifetime to learn. no way can kankuro use it yet

 

[Obito3631]

and we know for a fact chiyo wouldnt have defeated sasori without sakuras aid. actually she didnt defeat him AT ALL

hes also incorrect like when madara claims he is at the top and thus superior to hashirama. if sasori had his original puppet army as an edo kankuro would be buttfuked

That is what YOU think and it's irrelevant, If Kankuro said he was better than Sasori then he will defeat his 100 puppets.

the one time they clashed with both using puppets kankuro was raped. and kankuro can easily be wrong. he didnt see sasori go all out at any point in his life

He was weak and that was like 300 chapters ago. He's stronger than him now.

the skill of a puppeteer is defined by how many one can control. chiyos level was such that she can control 10 perfectly. kishi is not speaking through kankuro here. in the same way that a villain boasting about his invincibility is not kishi telling us info we should take as fact. otherwise yes kabuto is invncible since kishi spoke through him.

Was that a manga statement? I don't think so you probably made that up.
The skill of a puppeter is defined by how efficiently one can control their puppets, Quality is more important than quality. Chiyo fodderized most of Sasori's puppets with only 10 puppets, just saying.

what feats are you talking about? so kankuros shown he can block iron sand?
the forbidden ten puppet technique would take a lifetime to learn. no way can kankuro use it yet

How am I supposed to tell what Kankuro would do? He'd win either way, he would probably kill him before he gets to summon the 3rd Kazekage puppet or will find a way to destroy it

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Kankuro has surpassed Sasori it's a manga fact

because kankuro says so? ok then sasuke killed zabuza, manga fact cos someone said so. hyuga is the oldest konoha clan, byakugan is sharingans projenitor, old hiruzen > 4 kages and also kabutos invincible. manga says so, dont ever question it

 

[Obito3631]

because kankuro says so? ok then sasuke killed zabuza, manga fact cos someone said so. hyuga is the oldest konoha clan, byakugan is sharingans projenitor, old hiruzen > 4 kages and also kabutos invincible. manga says so, dont ever question it

Doesn't work that way. Kankuro is in a better position than you to know whether it's true or not, he fought Sasori in the past and is a puppeter himself.

You couldn't make any decent comparisons.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

If Kankuro said he was better than Sasori then he will defeat his 100 puppets.

if kankuro said it he could easily be misinformed. the only person alive who saw sasori go all out is sakura and i doubt a loyal konoha ninja would tell him everything about a random enemy.

He was weak and that was like 300 chapters ago. He's stronger than him now.

he is weak now, when compared to prime sasori. he compared himself to edo sasori and commented hes better than that. but what he isnt better than is sasori when he was still alive and had third kazekage puppet. when sakura destroyed it, sasori fell behind kankuro

Was that a manga statement? I don't think so you probably made that up.

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yeah i do that alot dont i?

The skill of a puppeter is defined by how efficiently one can control their puppets, Quality is more important than quality.

yes it is. and thats why when sasoris puppets started getting beaten, the remaining ones were controlled better than before, meaning they had to attack sasori directly, or fall

He'd win either way, he would probably kill him before he gets to summon the 3rd Kazekage puppet or will find a way to destroy it

kankuro needs time to get his own puppets out and theres no proof hes faster than sasori in that aspect. how cna he destroy it? the person who destroyed it did it because she caught sasori off guard and used physical power. kankuro has no attack thats capable of completely shattering the third while also countering its massive hands and poison gas

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Doesn't work that way. Kankuro is in a better position than you to know whether it's true or not, he fought Sasori in the past and is a puppeter himself.

im sure zetsu was in a better position than us about pains power lelve but nevertheless he was wrong too. kankuro has never seen sasori go all out and the only person alive who knows who killed third kazekage and took his kekkei genkai wouldnt reveal that to a rival village. kankuro is not in a position where he can say "i am better than you even though you have the best weapon possible for making all my puppets totally useless and i have no idea you even have it let alone the 100 puppets hidden up your sleeve". sasori likely has an endless freakin arsenal he never even used in his fights because he believed chiyo and the kid to be that weak. the only reason the thirds puppet was defeated at all was sakura's freakish pseudo super strength and her tricking sasori by faking being taken out by poison. sasori would be much more careful upon finding out sakura managed to cure kankuro since kankuro would now have somewhat resistance against being fatally poisoned. but an answer to iron sand doesnt exist in kankuros arsenal. as i said he has no idea sasori has it. it doesnt matter if hes supposedly more knowledgable than me about the subject because that statement alone doesnt prove he can defeat both 100 puppets and third kazekage.

 

[Obito3631]

he is weak now, when compared to prime sasori. he compared himself to edo sasori and commented hes better than that. but what he isnt better than is sasori when he was still alive and had third kazekage puppet. when sakura destroyed it, sasori fell behind kankuro

Fail, go read the manga he never compared himself to current sasori he clearly said "I have surpassed you" if you can't comprehend what was implied then I don't know what to say about you.. All in all Sasori is weak compared to Kankuro

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yeah i do that alot dont i?

Nothing was said about puppetry, find something else, that's if you can.

yes it is. and thats why when sasoris puppets started getting beaten, the remaining ones were controlled better than before, meaning they had to attack sasori directly, or fall

And what is your point? What is that suppose to prove? Did you just discover that it's easier to control fewer puppet? The fact that he was able to control 100 puppets at the same time doesn't say crap about how efficency he can control them. It was stated that Kankuro is a better puppet master meaning he will defeat him, period.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

USSJ you are falling for Troll Bait right now.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Nothing was said about puppetry, find something else, that's if you can.

you asked if i made up that kishi wrote kabuto saying hes invincible. when its just another arrogant character hyperbole. logically kabuto knows better than i do. but its still exagerrating

Fail, go read the manga he never compared himself to current sasori he clearly said "I have surpassed you" if you can't comprehend what was implied then I don't know what to say about you.. All in all Sasori is weak compared to Kankuro

all in all sasori instantly clogs up kankuros puppets joints and makes them useless then shoves iron sand spikes through kankuros skull. as i said, go read the manga. kabuto commented hes invincible. how can he be invincible if hes weaker than someone else? if you cant comprehend the manga, i dont know what to say. kabuto clearly said "i cant imagine losing (to uchiha bros)". given kishi had to write that with his pen it must be true, am i right?
tell me how kankuro cna counter or destroy the third kazekage and hiruko armour as well as avoid being poisoned again.

The fact that he was able to control 100 puppets at the same time doesn't say crap about how efficency he can control them. It was stated that Kankuro is a better puppet master meaning he will defeat him

kankuro cant be a better puppet master if he cannot defeat sasori whos the actual best one. iron sand renders kankuros arsenal useless and then is slaughtered at sasoris leisure. he cannot defeat sasori

 

[Pekoms]

That is what YOU think and it's irrelevant, If Kankuro said he was better than Sasori then he will defeat his 100 puppets.

Chiyo fodderized most of Sasori's puppets with only 10 puppets, just saying.

How am I supposed to tell what Kankuro would do? He'd win either way, he would probably kill him before he gets to summon the 3rd Kazekage puppet or will find a way to destroy it

1. By that logic, Naruto should have prevented Sasuke from joining Orochimaru, after all, he said he would
2. Incorrect use of the word "fodderized" given that her puppets were all destroyed too
3. He "will find a way to destroy it" isn't a valid counter

It was stated that Kankuro is a better puppet master meaning he will defeat him, period.

It was stated by Kankuro that he was better, without any feats to back that claim up. Feats are facts, not bragging.

 

[Zexion~]

and we know for a fact chiyo wouldnt have defeated sasori without sakuras aid. actually she didnt defeat him AT ALL



That is what YOU think and it's irrelevant, If Kankuro said he was better than Sasori then he will defeat his 100 puppets.



He was weak and that was like 300 chapters ago. He's stronger than him now.





Was that a manga statement? I don't think so you probably made that up.
The skill of a puppeter is defined by how efficiently one can control their puppets, Quality is more important than quality. Chiyo fodderized most of Sasori's puppets with only 10 puppets, just saying.




How am I supposed to tell what Kankuro would do? He'd win either way, he would probably kill him before he gets to summon the 3rd Kazekage puppet or will find a way to destroy it

..i have lost all respect for you smh So if someone says that their strong .. they magically can beat anyone? Once again you make noooo sense ....

 

[Curse Mark]

lmfao. Since kabuto said he's invincible, then he's invincible, right Obito?

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

apparently that doesnt count in his mind.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

1.) Sasori
2.) Chiyo
3.) Sasori
4.) Sasori & Chiyo

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Lool you fail at using logic.
It's not about the quantity it's about quality and Kankuro has been proven to be better than Sasori.

You fail at logic too, Now get in the trash bin. Quantity and Quality are both important, and sasori wins both times.