Puppet Battle.

[Pekoms]

Seriously, manga facts are identified through feats, not the words of a kid who couldn't do shit the last time they met.

You keep ranting about what the manga states when in fact, it's nothing more than Kankuro.
The characters are certainly fallible, he's been wrong before in regards to Gaara.

As far as feats go, Sasori would still beat Kankuro, given his typical resources.
The fact that all you can do is cling to a single statement shows how bad it'd be.

 

[Obito3631]

Seriously, manga facts are identified through feats, not the words of a kid who couldn't do shit the last time they met.

You keep ranting about what the manga states when in fact, it's nothing more than Kankuro.
The characters are certainly fallible, he's been wrong before in regards to Gaara.

As far as feats go, Sasori would still beat Kankuro, given his typical resources.
The fact that all you can do is cling to a single statement shows how bad it'd be.

Using manga feats and statement Kankuro is still superior to Sasori, the first time they met was at the very beginning of shippuden and it's irrelevant now.

Current manga feats still puts Kankuro above Sasori, and unless you're Kishi you can't contradict it, I understand that it pisses you off but you need to admit the truth and quit being so stubborn.

 

[Gneiss]

fail, kankuro does have chiyos puppets in his arsenal. sasori doesnt stand a chance as the manga has shown.

....sigh kankuro does not have the Chikamatsu Collection. u know what i meant

 

[Obito3631]

....sigh kankuro does not have the Chikamatsu Collection. u know what i meant

And your point is? The number of puppet one can control does not define the user's strength, Chiyo has proved it.

 

[Zexion~]

... You have proven no counters all you say is kankuro says hes better so he is ..... Please stop ... You pick the most controversial sides of every thread your on

 

[Obito3631]

... You have proven no counters all you say is kankuro says hes better so he is ..... Please stop ... You pick the most controversial sides of every thread your on

Why would I need a counter when Kankuro has already proven to be better than Sasori in the manga and even Kishi stated it through Kankuro's speech?
You should stop trying to contradict what you can't contradict, this is not even debatable.

 

[Gneiss]

And your point is? The number of puppet one can control does not define the user's strength, Chiyo has proved it.

my point is kankuro can not defeat chiyo either. i really dont see how you think kankuro can defeat sasori it befuddles me

 

[Zexion~]

Why would I need a counter when Kankuro has already proven to be better than Sasori in the manga and even Kishi stated it through Kankuro's speech?
You should stop trying to contradict what you can't contradict, this is not even debatable.

Lmao now your not making sense

 

[Pekoms]

Why would I need a counter when Kankuro has already proven to be better than Sasori in the manga and even Kishi stated it through Kankuro's speech?
You should stop trying to contradict what you can't contradict

How exactly is a puppet-less Sasori even remotely comparable to his earlier capacity? Not exactly sound reasoning.
Nothing has been proven, it's simply the words of Kankuro, whose words you think are somehow infallible.

Without feats, his words are meaningless. One can't make a debate and say "well that's what he said."
He still has to demonstrate solid counters to each of Sasori's puppets, which he has not done.

 

[Obito3631]

my point is kankuro can not defeat chiyo either. i really dont see how you think kankuro can defeat sasori it befuddles me

Oh really? Sasori's puppet says otherwise. He has almost everything Chiyo possess in his arsenal and even more.

 

[Zexion~]

^.... .. Basic body sasori> Sasori with 3rd kazekage and 100 puppet technique lol LOADS of sense

 

[Obito3631]

How exactly is a puppet-less Sasori even remotely comparable to his earlier capacity? Not exactly sound reasoning.
Nothing has been proven, it's simply the words of Kankuro, whose words you think are somehow infallible.

Without feats, his words are meaningless. One can't make a debate and say "well that's what he said."
He still has to demonstrate solid counters to each of Sasori's puppets, which he has not done.

It's hard to explain because you can't really compare two pupet masters strength except if you use their overall mastery as an argument. It doesn't matter how many puppet he has, if he's inferior to Kankuro in puppet mastery he's still going to lose. Kankuro is a better puppet master, period.

 

[Obito3631]

^.... .. Basic body sasori> Sasori with 3rd kazekage and 100 puppet technique lol LOADS of sense

Lool you fail at using logic.
It's not about the quantity it's about quality and Kankuro has been proven to be better than Sasori.

 

[Pekoms]

Lool you fail at using logic.
It's not about the quantity it's about quality and Kankuro has been proven to be better than Sasori.

But he hasn't physically demonstrated that he is in fact superior, in terms of puppetry.
The single time they both clashed using puppets, Sasori effortlessly dominated the fight.

You'll have to provide scans that clearly depict his puppets defeating those of Sasori's.

 

[Gneiss]

Oh really? Sasori's puppet says otherwise. He has almost everything Chiyo possess in his arsenal and even more.

.........like i said befor kankuro cannot defeat chiyo and sasori.

 

[Obito3631]

But he hasn't physically demonstrated that he is in fact superior, in terms of puppetry.

Yes he has

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[Obito3631]

.........like i said befor kankuro cannot defeat chiyo and sasori.

Understand that I couldn't care less about what you think, facts are facts.
And are you Kishi to decide such a thing? I don't think so.

 

[Pekoms]

Yes he has

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Can you not read? Puppet to puppet, not unmotivated Sasori without his tools vs Kankuro with everything at stake.

 

[Obito3631]

Can you not read? Puppet to puppet, not unmotivated Sasori without his tools vs Kankuro with everything at stake.

Unmotivated, what a nice excuse.
He outplayed him and showed that he has surpassed Sasori through actions and words as well. Deal with it

 

[Gneiss]

there no arguing with this guy jut let him be