PS or kurama avatar which is more durable

[Gerkak]

naah man size matters, if sasuke was bout to face madara both using PS,madara will trollstomp sasukes, an example is a giant who is 8 feat tall is more durable than someone who is 6 feat tall, logically madaras PS is superior in durability, after all he is bigger and stronger, why not more durable

Such things don't apply in the NV. Naruto's avatar tanked a juubi dama, madara's PS was destroyed by shinsusenju. Unless you're trying to say that shinsusenju has more offensive power than the juubi then we can agree by feats their avatars>>madara's

 

[Blackzoro]

Not counting excess Nature Energy or the combined Bijuu Chakra, Naruto and Sasuke's Avatars are dead equal and Madara's Avatar is far more durable than both. It's more durable than both combined before the Rikudo Boost tbh as it's pound for pound more durable than both, and each Avatar is the size of it's hand. Naruto's tails make it larger than that, but still smaller than it's arm. So yes, contrary to popular belief, or what used to be popular belief, any attack that Naruto has ever tanked is tanked by Madara with far far less damage.

The thing that'd make Naruto be able to take more damage is that he has his tails, which are larger than Sasuke's wings. So he would be able to take far more damage if he covered himself with his tails, so he could be considered more durable, but overall. Not pound for pound. Though Madara still blows that out of the water considering he's pound for pound more durable and his Susanoo dwarfs Naruto's. Tails included.

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[VongolaX]

Madara PS is same hight as Mokujin

Mokujin is same hight as Full Kurama

And currently Naruto have Full Kurama thus both equal in durability.

Bold part is not true at all.

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[Ansatsuken]

Bold part is not true at all.

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Remember Edo battle. Why you chose VOTE battle scan?

And what actually you want me to see there?

 

[KidGamer65]

Size isn't everything, naruto and sasuke's avatars have tanked far more powerful attacks than madara's

Irrelevant and fallacious logic. Also false logic. What obliterated Madaras PS is stronger than anything Naruto has ever tanked. Sasuke PS is inferior to Madaras thus anything equal to it is also inferior.

 

[Gerkak]

Irrelevant and fallacious logic. Also false logic. What obliterated Madaras PS is stronger than anything Naruto has ever tanked. Sasuke PS is inferior to Madaras thus anything equal to it is also inferior.

So, by your logic shinsusenjuu has more offensive power than the juubi?

 

[KidGamer65]

Than the weakest form of Juubi? Yes. Unless Sasukes PS>Madaras there is no reason why it isnt. But Sasukes PS is not as strong as Madaras.

 

[Gerkak]

Than the weakest form of Juubi? Yes. Unless Sasukes PS>Madaras there is no reason why it isnt. But Sasukes PS is not as strong as Madaras.

Are you using feats or just your opinion? Sasuke's PS effortlessly sliced through several meteorites which dwarfed the mountains madara's PS could sliced through by several orders of magnitude.

So again by feats, it is superior to madara's. Since naruto's avatar was shown to match it in physical power we can infer that it also has superior physical capabilities than madara's PS.

Whether it is in its first form or not, there is no way shinsusenjuu could have greater offensive power than the juubi.

I will say it again size doesn't mean everything,

 

[KidGamer65]

Full stop. EMS Sasuke buddy. Not Rikudo Sasuke. Of course if you compare him to EMS Madara, Sasuke wins. Not sure why you switched to Rikudo Sasuke when we are obviously talking about BM and EMS.

 

[KidGamer65]

And yes. SS>Juubis laser. Feats show that. Weaker Avatar tanked the laser. Stronger avatar was wrecked by SS.

 

[Gerkak]

Full stop. EMS Sasuke buddy. Not Rikudo Sasuke. Of course if you compare him to EMS Madara, Sasuke wins. Not sure why you switched to Rikudo Sasuke when we are obviously talking about BM and EMS.

Sorry, I had no idea we were talking about pre rikudo naruto and sasuke only.

Be that as it may, naruto's BM avatar has shown better defensive feats than madara's PS. The juubi even its first form had power that other shinobi could not even measure, in other words it was stronger than everyone else at that time. Its offensive power is above shinsusenjuu.

During the juubito fight naruto and sasuke's avatars were shown to be of a similar level of durability, meaning it is likely sasuke could tank the juubi dama as well.

What I am saying is you could be right, madara's PS might be more powerful, but I don't know of any feats that show this to be the case. In fact by feats it seems the contrary is the true

 

[KidGamer65]

Sorry, I had no idea we were talking about pre rikudo naruto and sasuke only.

Be that as it may, naruto's BM avatar has shown better defensive feats than madara's PS. The juubi even its first form had power that other shinobi could not even measure, in other words it was stronger than everyone else at that time. Its offensive power is above shinsusenjuu.

During the juubito fight naruto and sasuke's avatars were shown to be of a similar level of durability, meaning it is likely sasuke could tank the juubi dama as well.

What I am saying is you could be right, madara's PS might be more powerful, but I don't know of any feats that show this to be the case. In fact by feats it seems the contrary is the true

Which is irrelevant. You keep saying it's shown better defensive feats even though you ignore the fact that Shinsuusenju's offensive power is above what Naruto tanked. Instead of countering that fact you simply repeat over and over again "it's stronger", which means nothing unless you actually have evidence to back it up, which you don't.

-Sasuke's PS is the same size as Naruto's Avatar. Madara's PS dwarfs that.
-The Susanoo Sasuke used against Juubito was equal in durability to Naruto's Avatar, thus it is equal to his PS in that category too. It was wiped out by Obito's drop slam, which created a crater nowhere near the size of VoTe, which is what it took to destroy Madara's PS.
-The Susanoo Sasuke used against Juubito's best feat is cleaving the Shinju Root. Madara's best feat is cleaving multiple Mountain tops without touching them.

Madara trumps in offensive and defensive power. Feats prove that Madara's PS>Sasuke's PS=Naruto's Avatar. Feats prove that the impact at VoTE>>Juubi's laser.

 

[Nick01]

JJ Madara's PS>Naruto's Kurama Avatar>Sasuke's PS