Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Inside)

[KilltheTrolls]

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Third Raikage solo.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

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Honestly, it looks like a fair match up at first glance, but in reality it's not that fair at all. Sasori and the Raikage take this without a doubt.

First off, the Raikages attacks would without a doubt pierce Gaara's sand shields. Sasuke's chidori was once able to do it, and the 1 fingered attack of the Raikage would certainly get the job done.

Secondly, neither Oro nor Gaara have the speed too catch the Raikage, nor could they catch Sasori. Why? Sasori's iron sand cancels out pretty much all of Gaara's advantages. Even Gaara/Oro's final resort attack would fail because the Iron sand would allow Sasori to levitate himself and the Raikage to safety. Similarly, the iron sand provides a stronger offense and defense than Gaara's sand.

Oro in reality would just do what he can to not get killed. The only possible way for him to do any harm is to poison the Raikage with his blood. That is honestly one of the few ways he and Gaara could take the upper hand.

There is really not much Oro and Gaara can do. They have inferior speed, which means that their attacks would be rendered useless, and they have inferior defenses, which can be defeated either with time (Oro's shedding) or with power (Raikages one finger > Gaara's sand). And finally, they have no real combinations attacks that could succeed, whereas the Raikage and Sasori each could possible solo the opposition.

Everybody keeps saying 3rd raikage 1 finger >> gaara sand really 4 giant Susanno swords couldn't pierce half of gaara defense so y'all keep on saying its goes through as easily as u say I think not we Dnt know for sure tht the hell finger will go through...that being said gaara sand speed is fast it caught the 3rd raikage once it can do it again .... His speed has increased extremely examples the whole amatsaratsu thing and evading mokoton witch is an instantAinous I repeat instantAinous Forrest he not only was able to save himself but the other kage as well before they were poisened (so that goes also for the poisenious iron sand ) also once gaara takes flight raikage can't retch him and it's up to sasori and tht can't happen because sand clogs up puppets joints rendering them useless cuz they can't move fine u point out tht nobody can damage the 3rd orochimaru has wind jutsu and if all else fails like my preseasor said gaara can bury him in sand..

So please really stop down playing gaara cuz Ive countered damn near everything u and everybody else said and I didn't even get into orochimaru smh

Orochimaru and gaara takes this mid-high diff (only high cuz 3rd raikage)

 

[killerman82]

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good thread +rep

 

[DeViliShChild]

Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Honestly, it looks like a fair match up at first glance, but in reality it's not that fair at all. Sasori and the Raikage take this without a doubt.

First off, the Raikages attacks would without a doubt pierce Gaara's sand shields. Sasuke's chidori was once able to do it, and the 1 fingered attack of the Raikage would certainly get the job done.

Secondly, neither Oro nor Gaara have the speed too catch the Raikage, nor could they catch Sasori. Why? Sasori's iron sand cancels out pretty much all of Gaara's advantages. Even Gaara/Oro's final resort attack would fail because the Iron sand would allow Sasori to levitate himself and the Raikage to safety. Similarly, the iron sand provides a stronger offense and defense than Gaara's sand.

Oro in reality would just do what he can to not get killed. The only possible way for him to do any harm is to poison the Raikage with his blood. That is honestly one of the few ways he and Gaara could take the upper hand.

There is really not much Oro and Gaara can do. They have inferior speed, which means that their attacks would be rendered useless, and they have inferior defenses, which can be defeated either with time (Oro's shedding) or with power (Raikages one finger > Gaara's sand). And finally, they have no real combinations attacks that could succeed, whereas the Raikage and Sasori each could possible solo the opposition.

How does the third raikage even hit Gaara if he is flying?

 

[itachifan7]

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Oro and Gaara
freakin boss post =rep

 

[AngryRock]

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I don't think Sasori and the third can beat Oro and Gaara. Although it can go either way Oro and Gaara have a slight advantage because of Oro's edo tensei and the five elements seal would be useful if he can use it on them. They would have a bigger advantage if they were matched in the desert since Gaara would be even more powerful.

 

[Kikki]

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Great thread as ever. As I told you, I`m with team Oro and Gaara. Sasori and Raikage would have to come way too close to them to hit them I think and both Oro and Gaara have a nice mix of attacks that would work. Only one who really had zero problems defeating Gaara was Deidara so far because he is a ranged combat person.

Anyway, I like your threads alot.

 

[nj tandi]

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How does the third raikage even hit Gaara if he is flying?

He uses his lightning armour and jumps.

Great thread as ever. As I told you, I`m with team Oro and Gaara. Sasori and Raikage would have to come way too close to them to hit them I think and both Oro and Gaara have a nice mix of attacks that would work. Only one who really had zero problems defeating Gaara was Deidara so far because he is a ranged combat person.

Anyway, I like your threads alot.

Kimimaro beat Gãra would have), and he was a close combat fighter. Yes, Gãra has improved tremendously, but I think the Raikage was at a higher level than Kimimaro was at.

 

[FizzyDrink]

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Everybody keeps saying 3rd raikage 1 finger >> gaara sand really 4 giant Susanno swords couldn't pierce half of gaara defense so y'all keep on saying its goes through as easily as u say I think not we Dnt know for sure tht the hell finger will go through...that being said gaara sand speed is fast it caught the 3rd raikage once it can do it again .... His speed has increased extremely examples the whole amatsaratsu thing and evading mokoton witch is an instantAinous I repeat instantAinous Forrest he not only was able to save himself but the other kage as well before they were poisened (so that goes also for the poisenious iron sand ) also once gaara takes flight raikage can't retch him and it's up to sasori and tht can't happen because sand clogs up puppets joints rendering them useless cuz they can't move fine u point out tht nobody can damage the 3rd orochimaru has wind jutsu and if all else fails like my preseasor said gaara can bury him in sand..

So please really stop down playing gaara cuz Ive countered damn near everything u and everybody else said and I didn't even get into orochimaru smh

Orochimaru and gaara takes this mid-high diff (only high cuz 3rd raikage)

What about Sasuke's chidori piercing his sand in the Chunnin Exams? Sure his sand has gotten stronger, but the 1 finger jutsu is also stronger. Also, Gaara's sand could be seen as an earth based jutsu, which would mean that it's weakness is raiton, explaining why Sasuke's chidori penetrated it. Thus, the Raikage's ability should certainly be able to. And if you still deny it, well, what about the possibility of Sasori mixing in iron sand into Gaara's regular sand? That could easily be used to get through Gaara's defense and kill him.

Now, when you say his sand is fast enough to catch the Raikage, you're dead wrong. It caught him before WHEN HE WAS STANDING STILL. If he were in a battle, he wouldn't be doing that. But at the time, he wasn't trying to fight, so he was not moving to attack. Even then, he was to strong for the sand to hold, so there is no problem anyways. Also, you're wrong about him blocking Amaterasu, he just blocked blaze release, which is the manipulation of already existing flames. And the forest wasn't instantaneous, they clearly saw it coming at them. Similarly, when were the others poisoned, and when did Gaara extract the poison from the kages? That never happened. Gaara no matter what would NOT survive being poisoned.

And you say once Gaara takes flight, it's up to Sasori ONLY. That's wrong. What stops Sasori from lifting the Raikage too? Or did you not think of that.

And sure, sand clogs joints, but only if the sand hits the puppets. Iron sand can easily defend Sasori's puppets from Gaara's sand. There's no problem there. Also, Sasori has too many puppets anyways. Gaara isn't hitting all 298 puppets so easily.

And if a rasenshuriken can't take down the raikage, none of Oro's jutsu will. Similarly, if Kimmimaro survived being buried, so could the Raikage. And the Raikage wouldn't even have to worry about that, because if Gaara turns the ground into sand, Sasori simply has to levitate both him and the Raikage with HIS sand and they will both be safe.

So yeah...you didn't counter any of my points. Nice try

How does the third raikage even hit Gaara if he is flying?

Have him levitate on Iron Sand.

 

[Leoj of the Teinken]

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Team Raikage vs Team Kazekage​

As with my previous threads is a new variation in my Kage vs Kage Threads by including any shinobi that are Akatsuki or Jinchurikis and pairing them with a Kages/Sannins to create more diversity and strategic play in fights.

This is a thread highlighting the strength of Sasori and the Third Raikage but unlike my other threads it has no bias, and is therefore showing why either team could win. Simply you just ignore the title as I wrote it that way for people to recognize it was one of my threads.










Elemental Strengths and Weaknesses of the Third Raikage's Lightning Release Armour

Strengthened by Water techniques due to it being a natural and very efficient conductor of electricity resulting in a more efficient conduction between electrical synapses causing an overall boost in both speed and strength.

Immunity to Earth techniques due to being conducted along it and the heat of the armour may even disintegrate it when they come into contact.

Immunity to Lightning techniques as they would have no substantial effect on it except maybe strengthening the armour due to more electrical energy being input.

Immunity to Pseudo Elements as it would demagnetize any metal based element and turn clay related techniques (mainly bombs) into useless duds.

Weakness to Fire techniques as they cause increased electrical resistance preventing efficient conduction and a lower overall quality of the armour meaning with increased intensity of heat means a drop in the Raikage's enhanced speed and strength.

Severe Weakness to Wind and Oil techniques as they act as a natural insulators meaning the lightning can't even be conducted resulting in a inability to use the armour.

Combined Tactics for Sasori and the Third Raikage​

-Attaching Chakra Puppet Strings to Third Raikage
Sasori could attach chakra puppet strings similar to how Chiyo did with Sakura meaning the Third Raikage becomes a sentient puppet who possesses a pseudo shared field of vision with Sasori meaning he can react to close range attacks himself or react to attacks from blind spots with the aid of Sasori from a distance.

It also means that Sasori possess a extremely fast and durable puppet which can tank all of the attacks from Orochimaru and Gaara as well as the Third Raikage being able to avoid all sneak attacks from his blind spots.

-Aerial and Distance Support of 100 Puppets
Sasori can also support the Third Raikage from the skies by combating an airborne Gaara with his 100 Puppet army while he fights Orochimaru on the ground.

Alternatively he can also let the Third Raikage board the collective 100 Puppets to achieve a pseudo form of flight which would make fighting an airborne Gaara far simpler, it could also aid him when fighting Manda and Orochimaru's Eight Headed Snake Transformation.

-Iron Sand World Order + Black Lightning Electrocution
Sasori and the Third Raikage can also use a combined attack including both of their ultimate jutsus to create a devastating effect. Sasori's can use his World Order technique to create random branching spikes out of a massive iron sand structure then combine it with the Third Raikage's Black Lightning panther to conduct electricity along the entirety of the structure and electrocute anyone who touches any part of it.

Also the black lightning would eventually demagnetize the structure causing a mass of electrified poison soaked iron sand would fall on anyone below which can give the technique three different purposes which include: poisoning the opponent, electrocution and a iron sand burial.

-Final Resort: Third Raikage + 100 Puppets Swarm Assault​

This can be used as a final resort by Sasori and the Third Raikage in a last ditch effort to win the match regardless of the circumstance they are in. Sasori can unleash his puppet army of 100 who all possess poisoned weapons along with the Third Raikage joining the swarm with his lightning release armour activated.

With this they can overwhelm Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense which would be incapable of defending against 101 simultaneous attacks from multiple different directions. Due to the lethality of Sasori's poison and the Third Raikage's strength even as little as one successful attacks breaking through Gaara's defense would prove to be fatal.

Combined with Sasori's streams of fire it could be used as a fatal combination against Orochimaru due to snakes natural weakness to intense heats could be used to have the overall effect of being able to create a opening for the Third Raikage to land a lethal hit as the 100 puppet army can be used to mask his movements.

Combined Tactics for Orochimaru and the Fifth Kazekage​

-Sand covered Terrain + Snake Underground Burrowing
Gaara can use a fairly large scale sand technique for the double purpose of attacking the opponent and covering the terrain in sand. This would allow him to sense Sasori and the Third Raikage wherever they are so he can still know where the Third Raikage is even when he's travelling at speeds too difficult to see.

Orochimaru can also use a sand covered terrain to his advantage as both his snakes and him in his White Snake Transformation would be able to utilize the sand through underground burrowing allowing for sneak attacks and a quick escape from Sasori's 100 puppet army.

-Insulation against Heated/Charged attacks(Lightning and Fire)
Gaara can also help Orochimaru defensively by covering his weaknesses to heat based attacks in his snake form. With his sand Gaara is able to insulate against the heat created by Sasori's streams of fire and the Third Raikage's lightning. He can also protect Orochimaru's summon Manda and any snake related transformation/summon that Orochimaru may perform.

-Defensive Capabilities: Ultimate Sand Defense + Snake Shedding
Both Gaara and Orochimaru have the fighting style suited to combat Sasori and the Third Raikage heavily offensive combat style which strive for one hit K.Os through the use of poison or sheer brute force. However there one hit K.Os won't be enough in this fight due to Orochimaru and Gaara possessing their own unique defenses.

Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense is a involuntary and instantaneous protection from anything that would cause him harm meaning he can be protected against the Third Raikage's almost impossible to evade assaults and Sasori's sneak attacks which would be fatal and impossible to anticipate due to the intricacy of the design of his puppets.

Orochimaru's Snake Skin Shedding means that he is able to avoid damage from hits that would cause massive injuries or attacks that are impossible to evade. Both his clothes and injuries are fully restored at the cost of a huge amount chakra meaning its a method only to be used to escape highly damaging or fatal hits from the Third Raikage. Also due to his immunity/extremely high resistance to poisons means that Sasori's main offensive isn't much of a threat to him.

-Final Resort: Desert Suspension + Snake Rain Tsunami​

Gaara can use his Desert Suspension in a similar style to how he did in the Kimimaro fight to elevate himself and Orochimaru into the air. From that range Gaara can use Sand Tsunmai to create a immense amount of sand to crush/restrain Sasori and the Third Raikage in.

Even if they manage the first wave of this combination attack Orochimaru can a rain down 10000 snakes which would be almost impossible to dodge due to the sheer range of the technique which would bury them in a mass of poisonous creatures. However due to the Sasori being a puppet and the Raikage being too durable neither would be poisoned by the snakes.

The snakes can also burrow into the now snake covered terrain to act as a permanent defense whilst also being to overwhelm them with sneak attacks from all directions due to there being 10000 snakes.

HAHAHAHA. Well, of course I have to give this match to the Third Raikage, because, well, I procalimed him as one of the strongest Kage that ever lived.

But back on topic, in a total unbiased way, I would still give Sasori and the Third the win, as the Third is nearly unstoppable and Sand wouldn't be able to stop him so easily. But I don't underestimate Gaara. But with the Iron Sand and Sasori's puppets. Sasori/Third are too overwhelming for Pedomaru and Gaara.

 

[olumiday]

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First things first. Your thread is well detailed and explained. +rep for that.

You forgot to mention triple demon gate and edo-tensei and the sword of Kusanagi for Orochimaru. With those techniques alone, Orochimaru can solo 3rd Raikage and Sasori.

Orochimaru + Kabuto came out to kill Sasori even though Orochimaru's time for changing body was almost up. Do you think he would have lost to Sasori back then?
This time it's even easier since he has Gaara on his side, not Kabuto (ordinary Kabuto without SM).

Orochimaru is immortal, even if he's cut in two, he would simply rejoin.
He's weakness is genjutsu based techniques especially Sharingan doujutsu which neither Raikage nor Sasori possesses.

I believe that Kusanagi if well utilized can cut through the Raikage's Steel amour because Sarutobi's Enma (Diamond) was weary of it because Kusanagi would put cut marks on him. Diamond > Steel

Manda would simply swallow a lot of puppets and dissapear with them.
And Finally, Sasori's heart is his life. After a long fight, his weak point could be discovered, then Orochimaru can pop out of the ground with sword in his mouth and stab Sasori to death. Even if his weakness isn't found, Orochimaru could still stab Sasori's heart inoccently, just as he stabbed Tsunade.

 

[GreenV]

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Orochimaru and Gaara win this imo. Will join the conversation once my net is fixed =.=

It's even hard to load one page.

 

[shogun973]

Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Team Raikage vs Team Kazekage​

As with my previous threads is a new variation in my Kage vs Kage Threads by including any shinobi that are Akatsuki or Jinchurikis and pairing them with a Kages/Sannins to create more diversity and strategic play in fights.

This is a thread highlighting the strength of Sasori and the Third Raikage but unlike my other threads it has no bias, and is therefore showing why either team could win. Simply you just ignore the title as I wrote it that way for people to recognize it was one of my threads.










Elemental Strengths and Weaknesses of the Third Raikage's Lightning Release Armour

Strengthened by Water techniques due to it being a natural and very efficient conductor of electricity resulting in a more efficient conduction between electrical synapses causing an overall boost in both speed and strength.

Immunity to Earth techniques due to being conducted along it and the heat of the armour may even disintegrate it when they come into contact.

Immunity to Lightning techniques as they would have no substantial effect on it except maybe strengthening the armour due to more electrical energy being input.

Immunity to Pseudo Elements as it would demagnetize any metal based element and turn clay related techniques (mainly bombs) into useless duds.

Weakness to Fire techniques as they cause increased electrical resistance preventing efficient conduction and a lower overall quality of the armour meaning with increased intensity of heat means a drop in the Raikage's enhanced speed and strength.

Severe Weakness to Wind and Oil techniques as they act as a natural insulators meaning the lightning can't even be conducted resulting in a inability to use the armour.

Combined Tactics for Sasori and the Third Raikage​

-Attaching Chakra Puppet Strings to Third Raikage
Sasori could attach chakra puppet strings similar to how Chiyo did with Sakura meaning the Third Raikage becomes a sentient puppet who possesses a pseudo shared field of vision with Sasori meaning he can react to close range attacks himself or react to attacks from blind spots with the aid of Sasori from a distance.

It also means that Sasori possess a extremely fast and durable puppet which can tank all of the attacks from Orochimaru and Gaara as well as the Third Raikage being able to avoid all sneak attacks from his blind spots.

-Aerial and Distance Support of 100 Puppets
Sasori can also support the Third Raikage from the skies by combating an airborne Gaara with his 100 Puppet army while he fights Orochimaru on the ground.

Alternatively he can also let the Third Raikage board the collective 100 Puppets to achieve a pseudo form of flight which would make fighting an airborne Gaara far simpler, it could also aid him when fighting Manda and Orochimaru's Eight Headed Snake Transformation.

-Iron Sand World Order + Black Lightning Electrocution
Sasori and the Third Raikage can also use a combined attack including both of their ultimate jutsus to create a devastating effect. Sasori's can use his World Order technique to create random branching spikes out of a massive iron sand structure then combine it with the Third Raikage's Black Lightning panther to conduct electricity along the entirety of the structure and electrocute anyone who touches any part of it.

Also the black lightning would eventually demagnetize the structure causing a mass of electrified poison soaked iron sand would fall on anyone below which can give the technique three different purposes which include: poisoning the opponent, electrocution and a iron sand burial.

-Final Resort: Third Raikage + 100 Puppets Swarm Assault​

This can be used as a final resort by Sasori and the Third Raikage in a last ditch effort to win the match regardless of the circumstance they are in. Sasori can unleash his puppet army of 100 who all possess poisoned weapons along with the Third Raikage joining the swarm with his lightning release armour activated.

With this they can overwhelm Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense which would be incapable of defending against 101 simultaneous attacks from multiple different directions. Due to the lethality of Sasori's poison and the Third Raikage's strength even as little as one successful attacks breaking through Gaara's defense would prove to be fatal.

Combined with Sasori's streams of fire it could be used as a fatal combination against Orochimaru due to snakes natural weakness to intense heats could be used to have the overall effect of being able to create a opening for the Third Raikage to land a lethal hit as the 100 puppet army can be used to mask his movements.

Combined Tactics for Orochimaru and the Fifth Kazekage​

-Sand covered Terrain + Snake Underground Burrowing
Gaara can use a fairly large scale sand technique for the double purpose of attacking the opponent and covering the terrain in sand. This would allow him to sense Sasori and the Third Raikage wherever they are so he can still know where the Third Raikage is even when he's travelling at speeds too difficult to see.

Orochimaru can also use a sand covered terrain to his advantage as both his snakes and him in his White Snake Transformation would be able to utilize the sand through underground burrowing allowing for sneak attacks and a quick escape from Sasori's 100 puppet army.

-Insulation against Heated/Charged attacks(Lightning and Fire)
Gaara can also help Orochimaru defensively by covering his weaknesses to heat based attacks in his snake form. With his sand Gaara is able to insulate against the heat created by Sasori's streams of fire and the Third Raikage's lightning. He can also protect Orochimaru's summon Manda and any snake related transformation/summon that Orochimaru may perform.

-Defensive Capabilities: Ultimate Sand Defense + Snake Shedding
Both Gaara and Orochimaru have the fighting style suited to combat Sasori and the Third Raikage heavily offensive combat style which strive for one hit K.Os through the use of poison or sheer brute force. However there one hit K.Os won't be enough in this fight due to Orochimaru and Gaara possessing their own unique defenses.

Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense is a involuntary and instantaneous protection from anything that would cause him harm meaning he can be protected against the Third Raikage's almost impossible to evade assaults and Sasori's sneak attacks which would be fatal and impossible to anticipate due to the intricacy of the design of his puppets.

Orochimaru's Snake Skin Shedding means that he is able to avoid damage from hits that would cause massive injuries or attacks that are impossible to evade. Both his clothes and injuries are fully restored at the cost of a huge amount chakra meaning its a method only to be used to escape highly damaging or fatal hits from the Third Raikage. Also due to his immunity/extremely high resistance to poisons means that Sasori's main offensive isn't much of a threat to him.

-Final Resort: Desert Suspension + Snake Rain Tsunami​

Gaara can use his Desert Suspension in a similar style to how he did in the Kimimaro fight to elevate himself and Orochimaru into the air. From that range Gaara can use Sand Tsunmai to create a immense amount of sand to crush/restrain Sasori and the Third Raikage in.

Even if they manage the first wave of this combination attack Orochimaru can a rain down 10000 snakes which would be almost impossible to dodge due to the sheer range of the technique which would bury them in a mass of poisonous creatures. However due to the Sasori being a puppet and the Raikage being too durable neither would be poisoned by the snakes.

The snakes can also burrow into the now snake covered terrain to act as a permanent defense whilst also being to overwhelm them with sneak attacks from all directions due to there being 10000 snakes.

lmao who would argue with you of course 3rd raikage and sasori win lol, raikage freakin solos

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

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The Raikage's amplified stab,stronger than the Chidori,should penetrate Gãra's sand,as Sasuke's Chidori did.

its shown over and over that was due to circumstance and not a true proof of gaaras weakness. chidori is meant to cut through anything but he got the reach because gaara was motionless with a thin layer of gourd sand, but also remember he had to run down a wall to get enough thrusting power. lee stated SRA gaara was pretty much stronger in every way. his sand got stronger and faster as he did.

Sasori could mix poisoned iron sand with Gãra's sand.

gaara should be able to control it as he did gold.

Gãra's sand defence is not instantaneous.It cannot react in time to counter the Raikage's movement;it couldn't counter Sasuke's or Lee's.

back in part 1. its faster than ever. gaara blocked madara clones when he wasnt even looking in that direction or aware he had been attacked. so it was his mums auto defence that did it. raikages only good speed feat is dodging FRS twice.

the sand could be shaped into spikes which pierce Gãra.

whats stopping gaara from doing the same thing?

First off, the Raikages attacks would without a doubt pierce Gaara's sand shields. Sasuke's chidori was once able to do it, and the 1 fingered attack of the Raikage would certainly get the job done.

no it wont. first, gaara would immediately raise MULTIPLE defensive walls, as his attack isnt as fast as madaras yagatas, not as destructive as C3, and raikage cant build up the physical strength that madaras clones have. stop using part 1 as proof. gaaras changed.

Secondly, neither Oro nor Gaara have the speed too catch the Raikage, nor could they catch Sasori. Why? Sasori's iron sand cancels out pretty much all of Gaara's advantages. Even Gaara/Oro's final resort attack would fail because the Iron sand would allow Sasori to levitate himself and the Raikage to safety

why didnt he do this for chiyo? seems mighty conveniant that you can just make up powers for sasori when iron sand is heavier and therefore less likely to fly. also itd be the first time hes tried such a thing but gaaras done it in nearly every battle. raikage was caught by SM naruto, and dodged by dodai. his speed is overrated. defence and stamina is the problem.

The only possible way for him to do any harm is to poison the Raikage with his blood.

gaara can trap him in a pyramid after oro weakens him with fuuton daitoppa. oro can summon edo hashirama and put him in darkness genjutsu. or gaara can suffocate raikage by blocking his windpipe via sand particles

They have inferior speed, which means that their attacks would be rendered useless

gaara can attack from every direction including below. theres not much defence against that.

Yes, Gãra has improved tremendously, but I think the Raikage was at a higher level than Kimimaro was at.

so that means he can win? when kimimaro didnt even face shukaku? had gaara not been a nice guy kimimaro could never have won

Sand wouldn't be able to stop him so easily

it did though. check the chapter where gaara finishes off his father

 

[sunnex]

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Nice thread. Hard to decide though

 

[Negative Knight]

Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Nice thread. Hard to decide though

Thanks man though i'll try to make my future ones far better including more relevant shinobi, better match ups and etc

 

[genii96]

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Gaara and oro win.

 

[Bluedevil]

Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Gaara and Orochimaru.
While neither of their attacks would be that effective all Gara has to do is elevate both himself and Oro in the air and defend against long range attacks.
The only long range attack the riakage has is the pot (Oro most likely knows about this due to his own research/could deduce its function) and the Black lighting (Garas sand is in insulator) then the iron sand/puppets can reach but garra can block with his sand (and since his brother is a puppet master and Sasori him self is widely known, especially in his own village) he probably knows most of his attacks and Oro (being a former partner Sasori/has fought and won against another magnetic Gold Sand User) probably has figured out counters to all of his attacks. Then the two focus their attacks on Sasori and after he is gone all that is left to take down the Riakage.
This will be an easy feat at this point because Garra can utilize the Iron sand to draw power away from his lighting armor/ damage him with the sand itself and Oro can counter attack in his final form or summon snakes or hell even use tie-jitsu if he wanted.

 

[MickNerks]

Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

IMO gaara and Oro take this, if you allow orochimaru to have his edo tension.

 

[Sunagura]

Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

both team are really good, both have my favoritt character both are powerful so draw