Proof that Orochimaru's scroll is Edo Tensei

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Maybe he's just visiting the Uchiha clan, I mean to me personally, in the recent chapter it looks like the Uchiha section of Konoha. Don't expect everyone to agree wit me but it seems like a good theory to me.

Sasuke asks Oro to lead the way, so Sasuke couldn't know where exactly they were going. and he knows the Uchiha section of Konoha already.

 

[Owarij]

There are Many...scrolls in that hideout... orochimaru experimented with MANY forbidden jutsu and utilized hundreds .. and I mean hundreds of humans as experiments..

two dead bodies in oro's hideout, I don't see how that proves its edo tensei...they could just as easily been failed tests of oro developing his body transfer tech..

Let's look at the facts..


What ever it is, it shocked suigetsu, greatly, so much so that he said they could take the entire war with that power..


Suigetsu wants to surpass all the swordsmen and remake the whole group... He's not a ninja wouldn't keep a power up to himself..


Suigetsu read the scroll, and his first reaction was to give it to who? Sasuke ...saying that if he spent some time he was certain sasuke could do it


Also, when sasuke read the scroll , he said the words ' This is it" , meaning what ever it is, he saw it coming, or predicted that something like it exists..Sasuke really had no clue about edo tensei before this war... it was completely knew to him...afterwards he said he wanted to talk to the one/ones who know everything...




Just a few reasons I don't see it adding up to being edo tensei related..
Edo tensei requires sacrifices

Sasuke has made it CLEAR

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He is completely disgusted by the things Orochimaru does.. experimenting on people, changing bodies, bringing people from the dead by sacrificing another would trip him off.. I do not see him just letting orochimaru kill someone and perform the ritual infront of him...
They are also near konoha .. and Sasuke did promise naruto that no konoha ninjas would be killed.. and he seems to want to keep this deal.. so where is Oro going to find sacrifices to do anything edo tensei related?


Personally - Based on suigetsu's reaction, and him going to sasuke..
I believe it has something to do with the rikkudo... that's the only thing I see suigetsu reating like that and tripping on himself form.. attaining the power of a god...

Kabuto DID say that him and oro made a theory about surpassing the sharingan , the next step...What suigetsu picked up, could very well be their notes on the matter.. how Madara went a step further...
Sasuke probably knew there was something else, thus the "this is it.."


That's just me imo

 

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Sasuke asks Oro to lead the way, so Sasuke couldn't know where exactly they were going. and he knows the Uchiha section of Konoha already.

Of course he knows the Uchiha section but would he know where Orochimaru is leading him, just because he is home? He only said that because Orochimaru led him into this place.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

There are Many...scrolls in that hideout... orochimaru experimented with MANY forbidden jutsu and utilized hundreds .. and I mean hundreds of humans as experiments..

two dead bodies in oro's hideout, I don't see how that proves its edo tensei...they could just as easily been failed tests of oro developing his body transfer tech..

Let's look at the facts..


What ever it is, it shocked suigetsu, greatly, so much so that he said they could take the entire war with that power..


Suigetsu wants to surpass all the swordsmen and remake the whole group... He's not a ninja wouldn't keep a power up to himself..


Suigetsu read the scroll, and his first reaction was to give it to who? Sasuke ...saying that if he spent some time he was certain sasuke could do it


Also, when sasuke read the scroll , he said the words ' This is it" , meaning what ever it is, he saw it coming, or predicted that something like it exists..Sasuke really had no clue about edo tensei before this war... it was completely knew to him...afterwards he said he wanted to talk to the one/ones who know everything...




Just a few reasons I don't see it adding up to being edo tensei related..
Edo tensei requires sacrifices

Sasuke has made it CLEAR

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He is completely disgusted by the things Orochimaru does.. experimenting on people, changing bodies, bringing people from the dead by sacrificing another would trip him off.. I do not see him just letting orochimaru kill someone and perform the ritual infront of him...
They are also near konoha .. and Sasuke did promise naruto that no konoha ninjas would be killed.. and he seems to want to keep this deal.. so where is Oro going to find sacrifices to do anything edo tensei related?


Personally - Based on suigetsu's reaction, and him going to sasuke..
I believe it has something to do with the rikkudo... that's the only thing I see suigetsu reating like that and tripping on himself form.. attaining the power of a god...

Kabuto DID say that him and oro made a theory about surpassing the sharingan , the next step...What suigetsu picked up, could very well be their notes on the matter.. how Madara went a step further...
Sasuke probably knew there was something else, thus the "this is it.."


That's just me imo

I think the translation meant they could change the course/tide of the war, naturally seeing the military power of Edo Tensei Suigetsu would consider it as a valuable tool in changing the course of the war in their favor. And he gave the scroll to Sasuke because Suigetsu was confident Sasuke could perform the jutsu in the scroll, if you remember in 593 he said "You were Orochimaru's greatest disciple, if you take time you could..." naturally neither Suigetsu nor Jugo had the capability of using it, thus he gave it to Sasuke. And yes Sasuke was surprised when he read the scroll, but because it would allow him to meet this "one who knows everything" not because the scroll itself contained info. on the one who knows everything, and Sasuke must have heard about Edo Tensei, since he's been Orochimaru's disciple for roughly three years since the end of part 1. Let us go forwards to page 1 of Chapter 593, Suigetsu specifically asked "Who is this human who knows everything" if the scroll specifically mentions a person or people Suigetsu would not have asked this question to Sasuke. Now, for Sasuke being disgusted by Orochimaru's style, he has no reservations on taking the life of those involved in the massacre the likes of Danzo, he would see it fitting to use two people as living sacrifices for Edo Tensei as retribution for the murder of his clan, and who are those directly involved in the massacre who are still living? The two elders who were conspirators of Danzo, so there would be no moral dilemma for Sasuke if he used those two as sacrifices.

And I seriously doubt it involves the Sage or his sons (if we are in agreement that the scroll does not mention any specific person) they would not be able to answer Sasuke's questions, it's more probable that it is a fellow Uchiha whom Sasuke seeks.

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This is the original text of that panel in Ch. 593 it literally translates to:

What is Itachi?
What is a Family
What is a Village?

Then....

It mentions family which could also be interpreted as Clan.

 

[Owarij]

Sasuke will NEVER , go grave digging for dna, then use someone as a sacrifice to bring a ninja back

as I covered in the post, that's the very thing that made him completely disgusted with Orochimaru and attacked him

Sasuke has his dark emo side, but he isn't someone to kill people for sick inhumane things like that
Even madara considers the technique of edo tensei an abomination


Imo the one who knows everything is alive

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Sasuke will NEVER , go grave digging for dna, then use someone as a sacrifice to bring a ninja back

as I covered in the post, that's the very thing that made him completely disgusted with Orochimaru and attacked him

Sasuke has his dark emo side, but he isn't someone to kill people for sick inhumane things like that
Even madara considers the technique of edo tensei an abomination


Imo the one who knows everything is alive

He doesn't have to technically go grave digging if the DNA material is already stored somewhere in secret, and he had no reservations when he killed Danzo, who is to say he will have reservations on killing those two elders since they were involved in the massacre.

 

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I think the translation meant they could change the course/tide of the war, naturally seeing the military power of Edo Tensei Suigetsu would consider it as a valuable tool in changing the course of the war in their favor. And he gave the scroll to Sasuke because Suigetsu was confident Sasuke could perform the jutsu in the scroll, if you remember in 593 he said "You were Orochimaru's greatest disciple, if you take time you could..." naturally neither Suigetsu nor Jugo had the capability of using it, thus he gave it to Sasuke. And yes Sasuke was surprised when he read the scroll, but because it would allow him to meet this "one who knows everything" not because the scroll itself contained info. on the one who knows everything, and Sasuke must have heard about Edo Tensei, since he's been Orochimaru's disciple for roughly three years since the end of part 1. Let us go forwards to page 1 of Chapter 593, Suigetsu specifically asked "Who is this human who knows everything" if the scroll specifically mentions a person or people Suigetsu would not have asked this question to Sasuke. Now, for Sasuke being disgusted by Orochimaru's style, he has no reservations on taking the life of those involved in the massacre the likes of Danzo, he would see it fitting to use two people as living sacrifices for Edo Tensei as retribution for the murder of his clan, and who are those directly involved in the massacre who are still living? The two elders who were conspirators of Danzo, so there would be no moral dilemma for Sasuke if he used those two as sacrifices.

And I seriously doubt it involves the Sage or his sons (if we are in agreement that the scroll does not mention any specific person) they would not be able to answer Sasuke's questions, it's more probable that it is a fellow Uchiha whom Sasuke seeks.

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This is the original text of that panel in Ch. 593 it literally translates to:

What is Itachi?
What is a Family
What is a Village?

Then....

It mentions family which could also be interpreted as Clan.

This supports my reason as to why he could be back in the Uchiha Clan section of Konoha about to meat his Clan. just saying

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This supports my reason as to why he could be back in the Uchiha Clan section of Konoha about to meat his Clan. just saying

Well I have no doubts that he wants to meet an Uchiha, but which Uchiha that is, is open to contention, personally I think it's Shisui, and no, his corpse or DNA isn't found in the Uchiha section, it went missing and I suspect Danzo took his body.

 

[Owarij]

He doesn't have to technically go grave digging if the DNA material is already stored somewhere in secret, and he had no reservations when he killed Danzo, who is to say he will have reservations on killing those two elders since they were involved in the massacre.

He killed danzo in a fair fight..a fair ninja battle...and he would have killed them back then... But he's a ninja, ninjas engage in murder, assasination etc, everyday.. etc on "orders" from a village... So I don't see how doing that puts him on a level with orochimaru...

There is a diff between killing the elders and clearing the name of his clan.. and taking someones dna, and using a ritual jutsu on another alive person to then control the dead...

That isn't sasuke's thing..

Once again, don't forget, after his fight with danzo, sasuke promised naruto that no harm would be done to any konoha ninjas.. so no ninjas will be killed in konoha..

once again, where is oro magically getting sacrifices?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

He killed danzo in a fair fight..a fair ninja battle...and he would have killed them back then... But he's a ninja, ninjas engage in murder, assasination etc, everyday.. etc on "orders" from a village... So I don't see how doing that puts him on a level with orochimaru...

There is a diff between killing the elders and clearing the name of his clan.. and taking someones dna, and using a ritual jutsu on another alive person to then control the dead...

That isn't sasuke's thing..

Once again, don't forget, after his fight with danzo, sasuke promised naruto that no harm would be done to any konoha ninjas.. so no ninjas will be killed in konoha..

once again, where is oro magically getting sacrifices?

I see no moral dilemma for him using the two elders as sacrifices as a form of retribution, he promised Naruto that no innocent Konoha ninjas will be harmed, he never promised not harming those that directly wronged him and his clan. Sasuke has pretty much been Machiavellian in his actions, the end justify the means, he joined Orochimaru to gain power just to defeat his perceived enemy Itachi, he joined Tobi and Akatsuki, etc. and the moral dilemma stems if he actually uses the Edos as tools of war, not because he wanted to revive them just to talk to him or "them" and Oro will not be the one controlling Edo Tensei, it will be Sasuke since Oro is incapable of forming hand seals to perform the jutsu. He just wants to have a chat with them, and knowing him, he'll just probably unsummon him/them afterwards. And you have to take into account Orochimaru's reaction when he saw the scroll, he wasn't surprised or startled, he even questioned Sasuke in wanting to meet "them" if the scroll truly contained a unique tremendous power, then why did Oro questioned Sasuke in his plan to use the scroll? knowing full well, at least to his knowledge, that Sasuke wants to attain greater power.

 

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I like this theory

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I like this theory

Merci

 

[Legendary Broly]

Nice find bro. Really nice find ^^

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Nice find bro. Really nice find ^^

Thanks!

 

[Klad]

This is true.
I agree .

 

[Sir Aaron]

With the pictures of the skeleton, and seeing as skeletons are a symbol of death, It could be the undoing of the Reaper Death Seal, and then the use Orochimaru's knowledge of edo tensei to revive the Hokage, as well as giving orochimaru his arms back.

 

[natzzz]

i was gonna rep u but stopped when i saw the last post.

 

[natzzz]

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But that is me! :rofl:

 

[Sir Aaron]

With the pictures of the skeleton, and seeing as skeletons are a symbol of death, It could be the undoing of the Reaper Death Seal, and then the use Orochimaru's knowledge of edo tensei to revive the Hokage, as well as giving orochimaru his arms back.

I'm not saying I'm a Naruto prophet, but I was right