Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside)

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

Great Job Man. Imo Mizukage and Kisame take this though. Their combined technique is just pure domination.
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

Thanks for the comments guys they're really appreciated

Special thanks to anyone who +repped me xd

^As for your point Sasuke Ninja way, the Second Mizukage can turn into a oil based transformation which is a natural insulator of electricity

So Oil > Lightning
 
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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

I am defiantly going with Kisame/Mizukage on this one.

As we know from the manga Muu and the second Mizukage killed each other in battle so that would leave Kisame vs Kakuzu.

Kisames mega water dome cannot be countered by Kakuzu. Don't forget Killer Bee is lighting element, and he wasn't able to just massively electrocute the water. The water sucks out chakara and gives to Kisame so attacks are nullified. Its that simple of a battle.
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

Woah +Rep bro that was great i think kisame and the 2nd mizu take this high diff because of kisames ability to zteal chakra and the 2nd mizus ability to turn into water and use high scale water attacks, and considering the mizus clam kisame wouldnt have a problem with muu he could just create a water dome. Great thread.
 
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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

Thanks for the comments guys they're really appreciated

Special thanks to anyone who +repped me xd

^As for your point Sasuke Ninja way, the Second Mizukage can turn into a oil based transformation which is a natural insulator of electricity

So Oil > Lightning
Thanks for cleaning that up bro, this why I enjoy your threads.
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

great thread as always, and while i do think that kisame and the 2nd mizukage have the upper hand here i reckon it could go anyway
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

I'd +rep you but I need to spread more rep before I can give you more^^..

As per usual, you make a wonderful thread, quite well thought out.

You have my seal of approval xD.
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

mu=second mizukage and kisame>kakuzu. of course team mizukage takes this.
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

nice thread as usual +rep you have some of the smallest amount of bias in this base you're leaning agaisnt kakuzu who by your avatar and signature is your favorite character. that shows that you arent a fanboy and can accept them losing to other characters. best threds on the base if a thread is by you i usually just +rep before i even read it you to save me the trouble later xd
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

perfect as always +rep ya win i can but i will go with team kakuzu because kakuzu will be able to take out the mizukage for several reasons the mizukage can only use water style were kakuzu can counter it with earth style or lighting style but as i read the other post i think one of you said the mizukage can turn into oil? if he does kakuzu can use fire style to counter it because kakuzu hand seals are one of the fastes that there is kakashi could only see it with his sharingan so while the mizukage is in an oil form he can use fire style to burn him alive, im not sure about muu taking out kisame since i dont know much about muu but he will be able to hold out long enough for kakuzu to help him out or he will be able to take kisame out himself reasons why, because when kisame trys to hit him with any big jutsu muu can spplit him self and muu can just fly up were he can easly dodge kisame attacks and he can use his earth style to distract or get kisame traped for just a little while since muu can use huge scale earth styles and while kisame is stuck muu can use his dust release to kill kisame :)
 
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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

I agree with most of your points but Kakuzu does have lighting style and lighting>water, that would give kakuzu a bite advantage over Kisame and Second Mizukage and Muu invisibility would give his team another advantage over Kisame and Second Mizukage let's be real here you can't fight someone you can't see.
That's true, team water would be forced to try to destroy kakuzu's lightning mask and they could counter Muu's invisibility by using the Clam Genjutsu and Kisame spams with Water techs. But again the only real threat is the lightning but Samehada can absorb any ninjutsu.
 

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great thread as always. Kisame and 2nd Mizukage is just a perfect combination in my belief. i would +rep you, but i dont know how too. lol
 
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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

perfect as always +rep ya win i can but i will go with team kakuzu because kakuzu will be able to take out the mizukage for several reasons the mizukage can only use water style were hidan can counter it with earth style or lighting style but as i read the other post i think one of you said the mizukage can turn into oil? if he does kakuzu can use fire style to counter it because kakuzu hand seals are one of the fastes that there is kakashi could only see it with his sharingan so while the izukage is in an oil form he can use fire style to burn him alive, im not sure about muu taking out kisame since i dont know much about muu but he will be able to hold out long enough for kakuzu to help him out or he will be able to take kisame out himself reasons why, because when kisame trys to hit him with any big jutsu muu can spplit him self and muu can just fly up were he can easly dodge kisame attacks and he can use his earth style to distract or get kisame traped for just a little while since muu can use huge scale earth styles and while kisame is stuck muu can use his dust release to kill kisame :)
Yes that is all true, but Don't underestimate Kisame and Samehada as Samehada can absorb any ninjutsu, which I believe would include Muu's Dust Release techniques before. And, as we've seen in the manga, the only real threat to Kisame is taijutsu and genjutsu (Itachi and Guy). And Muu's not known to have used genjutsu or taijutsu. So, Kakuzu would be forced to fight Kisame as he is very skilled in taijutsu. And Muu's splitting into two would be a disadvantage to Muu as he would lose the ability to use his signature dust release tech.
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

Yes that is all true, but Don't underestimate Kisame and Samehada as Samehada can absorb any ninjutsu, which I believe would include Muu's Dust Release techniques before. And, as we've seen in the manga, the only real threat to Kisame is taijutsu and genjutsu (Itachi and Guy). And Muu's not known to have used genjutsu or taijutsu. So, Kakuzu would be forced to fight Kisame as he is very skilled in taijutsu. And Muu's splitting into two would be a disadvantage to Muu as he would lose the ability to use his signature dust release tech.
i did not know he would lose dust release but he can fuse back, also samehada will take a while to aborb his dust release since since its a lot of chakra also in my last post i said muu would fly up were he can easly dodge kisame attacks and trap him or ditract him with his large scale earth style and thats when he uses his dust release and if you dont think that will work muu can just fly up and turn invisible were kisame cant see him and just hold out until kakuzu can help him out
 

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Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

+rep

Kisame is sadly one of the underused characters. He easily defeated Killer Bee who in reality beat Sasuke at the time. So think about how powerful we could have seen Kisame? IMO Kisame could beat Kyuubi mode Naruto and many other ninja's with his abilities especially his water dome.
 
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