Proof that Kamui Bends Time

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Tobi's time travel is the key to unlock all mysteries, assuming that your theory is reasonable ( I think it is) and relying on the fact that Kamui's dimension is parallel to the real naruto world dimension the question which pops in every one's head is how does tobi teleport from a place to another?, I don't think the answer is that there is a difference or a variation in the time rolling process between the two dimensions because:
How does the shinobi being locked in Tobi's dimesion survive for example like Torune he should've died for many reasons like hunger for example.

Another questions is:
How does Tobi locate the moving targets that he wan't to travel to like for example when he located sasuke during the time he was heading to kotnoha and locating minato who teleported with his FTG, this locating process can't be done from the normal dimension because if he locates a moving target and teleports towards it he will actually appear at a place behind the current location of the target but Tobi actually appears before his targets.

So the only explanation of his time travel is that Tobi has somehow kind of control over his Kamui dimension which he locates his targets from and then teleport like super fast in his dimension towards the place parallel to the place of his target, or maybe in Kamui's dimension there are space time portals which teleports him the location parallel to his targets' in normal dimension.

Sorry if I didn't make it clearer.
1. There are too many things unknown about danzo's guards for me to give you an answer. Even if time went the same speed in the kamui dimension, they would have died anyway. Tobi most likely fed them, and so that is just a matter of how often.

2. I have no idea how he locates people with kamui, but that is not a variable in this theory. Unless you can relate that to time. Ignoring HOW tobi is able to locate people, if he were able to he could also just travel through the kamui dimension and because of the time difference he moves faster than through the normal dimension, by a significant amount.

3. If there were anyway that tobi could move into the dimension in a different place than the parallel points which he is in, which would be necessary for the teleportation part of your theory, then he would do so to avoid the attacks from when kakashi sends things through kamui. As for your space time portals within kamui, that is a possibility, but I believe it is a less rational one. It is not likely that it would be possible or easy for tobi to know where each portal would lead him, because I dont believe tobi would be able to create these portals. Therefore he could risk missing where his target would be and wasting time. Also how would he locate his target through a portal?

I believe that his ability to locate people comes from his zetsu body parts (or at least his body parts akin to what zetsu looks like) and he is able to locate people through the same method as zetsu, but he doesn't have the control over hashirama's DNA to move through trees, so he uses his own s/t ninjutsu to reach there.
 

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"When two observers are in relative uniform motion and uninfluenced by any gravitational mass, the point of view of each will be that the other's (moving) clock is ticking at a slower rate than the local clock. The faster the relative velocity, the greater the magnitude of time dilation. This case is sometimes called special relativistic time dilation.

For instance, two rocket ships (A and B) speeding past one another in space would experience time dilation. If they somehow had a clear view into each others' ships, each crew would see the others' clocks and movement as going too slowly. That is, inside the frame of reference of Ship A, everything is moving normally, but everything over on Ship B appears to be moving slower (and vice versa).
From a local perspective, time registered by clocks that are at rest with respect to the local frame of reference (and far from any gravitational mass) always appears to pass at the same rate. In other words, if a new ship, Ship C, travels alongside Ship A, it is "at rest" relative to Ship A. From the point of view of Ship A, new Ship C's time would appear normal too.
A question arises: If Ship A and Ship B both think each other's time is moving slower, who will have aged more if they decided to meet up? With a more sophisticated understanding of relative velocity time dilation, this seeming twin paradox turns out not to be a paradox at all (the resolution of the paradox involves a jump in time, as a result of the accelerated observer turning around). Similarly, understanding the twin paradox would help explain why astronauts on the ISS end up younger (e.g. 0.007 seconds behind) even though they are experiencing relative velocity time dilation." Quote: Time Dilation - Wikipedia

This confirms that even tobi would end up younger after time travel. You are correct though that velocity influences time, I apologize. However, this new data runs contrast
with your "aging" theory.
Furthermore you're aware that when naruto moves in bijuu mode he is already moving at least 100x faster than he normally could? I think he would be able to handle the change in velocity.
A change in velocity is invalid? How else do you suppose that Tobi could have traveled faster than zetsu?
 

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"When two observers are in relative uniform motion and uninfluenced by any gravitational mass, the point of view of each will be that the other's (moving) clock is ticking at a slower rate than the local clock. The faster the relative velocity, the greater the magnitude of time dilation. This case is sometimes called special relativistic time dilation.

For instance, two rocket ships (A and B) speeding past one another in space would experience time dilation. If they somehow had a clear view into each others' ships, each crew would see the others' clocks and movement as going too slowly. That is, inside the frame of reference of Ship A, everything is moving normally, but everything over on Ship B appears to be moving slower (and vice versa).
From a local perspective, time registered by clocks that are at rest with respect to the local frame of reference (and far from any gravitational mass) always appears to pass at the same rate. In other words, if a new ship, Ship C, travels alongside Ship A, it is "at rest" relative to Ship A. From the point of view of Ship A, new Ship C's time would appear normal too.
A question arises: If Ship A and Ship B both think each other's time is moving slower, who will have aged more if they decided to meet up? With a more sophisticated understanding of relative velocity time dilation, this seeming twin paradox turns out not to be a paradox at all (the resolution of the paradox involves a jump in time, as a result of the accelerated observer turning around). Similarly, understanding the twin paradox would help explain why astronauts on the ISS end up younger (e.g. 0.007 seconds behind) even though they are experiencing relative velocity time dilation." Quote: Time Dilation - Wikipedia

This confirms that even tobi would end up younger after time travel. You are correct though that velocity influences time, I apologize. However, this new data runs contrast
with your "aging" theory.
Furthermore you're aware that when naruto moves in bijuu mode he is already moving at least 100x faster than he normally could? I think he would be able to handle the change in velocity.
A change in velocity is invalid? How else do you suppose that Tobi could have traveled faster than zetsu?
Ok. Youre theory makes sense about tobi being younger IF the increased speed were due to velocity. However I still believe that between the 2 dimensions there is a time difference so you have only helped disprove that it is due to a change in velocity. Well not disprove, but make less valid (because then obito would be the same age or younger when fighting minato). Ok fine, naruto may be able to handle the change in velocity, but you still cannot rule out the scenario where we see tobi in the dimension moving normally when he placed nagato there. I would assume there would be a visual shift in the speed at which tobi moved, or else that is bad writing, which you cannot assume in a factual discussion. So I would say that it can't be a change in velocity. And a change in velocity and a change in relative time would have the same effect on tobi's speed, so if velocity could explain that speed than so could a change in time. Therefore if it weren't for the moment with tobi and nagato in the dimension then both theories would be equally likely. Also I don't remember if tobi has ever been seen to travel faster than zetsu. It could be true but I don't remember hearing it. Well, seeing it. Still the time theory can explain that as well.
 

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1. There are too many things unknown about danzo's guards for me to give you an answer. Even if time went the same speed in the kamui dimension, they would have died anyway. Tobi most likely fed them, and so that is just a matter of how often.

2. I have no idea how he locates people with kamui, but that is not a variable in this theory. Unless you can relate that to time. Ignoring HOW tobi is able to locate people, if he were able to he could also just travel through the kamui dimension and because of the time difference he moves faster than through the normal dimension, by a significant amount.

3. If there were anyway that tobi could move into the dimension in a different place than the parallel points which he is in, which would be necessary for the teleportation part of your theory, then he would do so to avoid the attacks from when kakashi sends things through kamui. As for your space time portals within kamui, that is a possibility, but I believe it is a less rational one. It is not likely that it would be possible or easy for tobi to know where each portal would lead him, because I dont believe tobi would be able to create these portals. Therefore he could risk missing where his target would be and wasting time. Also how would he locate his target through a portal?

I believe that his ability to locate people comes from his zetsu body parts (or at least his body parts akin to what zetsu looks like) and he is able to locate people through the same method as zetsu, but he doesn't have the control over hashirama's DNA to move through trees, so he uses his own s/t ninjutsu to reach there.
I know but I'm just adding possibilities for you to consider for refining your theory and furthermore adjusting it to become more realistic and closer to the one in Kishi's mind.

Regarding the part that he could've guarded against kakashi's attacks using it, I don't think so because tobi could've also have guarded using the rinnegan but he haven't do you know why? because Tobi was surprised by kakashi's attacks as for the rasengan which had hit his arm he though that it was stopped by naruto and for the hit on his face he was even more surprised to see naruto in his dimension and due to naruto's speed it made it harder for tobi to react.

What I'm trying to do is to suggest some possibilities to be taken in consideration.
 

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Even in real world , Parallel universes might exist.

It has been hypotized , that these universes might have completely different laws of physics.

Also , the time might run slower or faster in these dimensions.

3 days in the dimension might be = like 10 years in real world.


Also when some one is in that dimension , he could jump into other dimension = and maybe even travel in time.
 
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