Proof that Deva is stronger than Itachi

[Invsblphntm]

I like how TC makes a thread about how Itachi would beat Nagato then makes a thread about how Deva can beat Itachi. A bit silly if you ask me.

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Chibaku Tensei

Deva low diff

 

[Truth Speaker]

Yeah I did. How many people have to be humiliated by Itachi before you guys realize the obvious truth? Orochimaru was beaten by his Genjutsu, Deidara was beaten by his Genjutsu, Kakashi ended up in the frikkin hospital for a week! Tobi/Madara was afraid to make any moves on Konoha before his death. Tobi knew Itachi was a double agent from the beginning but still didnt do a damn thing to confront him, instead he waited until his death to make any real moves. This is the guy who started a war by himself and he was scared of Itachi!

THANK YOU !! Pple Underestimates Itachi So Much SMh

 

[Solo]

• - Close combat is dangerous when you fight Deva, since you could get hurt badly by a shinra tensei powerful enough to even kill huge toad summons and break all bones in Gamabunta

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  Itachi is waay faster than Base Naruto. He was even able to keep up with Kyuubi Mode Naruto.
  
  All Itachi needs to do spam Long ranged jutsu until he the Deva Path counters with Shinra Tensei. Itachi will easily move an attack.
  
  

  [*]- Genjutsu which is Itachis main power won't work on a dead body, especially when you know that he has Rinnengan, which is stronger than Sharingan

  Jiraiya trapped Pain in a genjutsu. All he needs is a Paralysis Genjutsu long enough to kill the Deva Path.
  
  

  [*]- Amaterasu is a close range jutsu, so to hit Deva, he would have to surprise him in close range, and eventhen, we've seen it's useless since Shinra tensei could push it away

  Nagato still took great damage from pushing Amaterasu. Had he not been an Edo Tensei, he might not have gotten back up.
  
  

  [*]- Susanoo: Sure it's a great defense, but this defense won't help against Deva since he can control gravity. So it means he could push/attrack someone with either Shinra tensei or Banshou tenin just by manipulating the center of gravity of his body. In this case, any defense won't help. So he could directly push Itachi or attrack him regardless of Susanoo or something. We've seen that Gaara was able to separate Susanoo from his user(Madara), so Deva who can control gravity could do it even better

  We also know they can move along with Susano'o. Plus, Susano'o can be activated faster than lightning(Sasuke's Kirin).
  
  Also bringing Itachi close to you can be dangerous, Simply because of Amaterasu or Eye contact.
  
  

  [*]Totsuka? Supposing it even hurts Deva somehow, you must know how totsuka works to begin with. It takes the soul of the opponent and then the process of sealing starts. But problem here is that Deva is a dead body, so hurting him with totsuka(if he even manage to) would be useless also since he could not take a soul simply because the soul doesn't exist. Deva is only like a puppet Nagato manipulates from far distance

Totsuka took their body into the jar as well.

In the worse case of scenario, he can even use Chibaku tensei, something against we've seen Itachi couldn't handle alone

So, i think Deva is stronger than Itachi

6 Paths of Pain vs Itachi... Ehhh They would most likely win. They'd either end up killing each other or one winning by an inch.

Deva Path vs Itachi - Itachi. Mid.

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As seen here. He can probably make more if the Yasaka Magatama for Chibaku Tensei.

 

[niknika]

I think Deva Path is stronger than Itachi for these reasons:

• - Close combat is dangerous when you fight Deva, since you could get hurt badly by a shinra tensei powerful enough to even kill huge toad summons and break all bones in Gamabunta
  
• - Genjutsu which is Itachis main power won't work on a dead body, especially when you know that he has Rinnengan, which is stronger than Sharingan
  
• - Amaterasu is a close range jutsu, so to hit Deva, he would have to surprise him in close range, and eventhen, we've seen it's useless since Shinra tensei could push it away
  
• - Susanoo: Sure it's a great defense, but this defense won't help against Deva since he can control gravity. So it means he could push/attrack someone with either Shinra tensei or Banshou tenin just by manipulating the center of gravity of his body. In this case, any defense won't help. So he could directly push Itachi or attrack him regardless of Susanoo or something. We've seen that Gaara was able to separate Susanoo from his user(Madara), so Deva who can control gravity could do it even better
  
• Totsuka? Supposing it even hurts Deva somehow, you must know how totsuka works to begin with. It takes the soul of the opponent and then the process of sealing starts. But problem here is that Deva is a dead body, so hurting him with totsuka(if he even manage to) would be useless also since he could not take a soul simply because the soul doesn't exist. Deva is only like a puppet Nagato manipulates from far distance

In the worse case of scenario, he can even use Chibaku tensei, something against we've seen Itachi couldn't handle alone

So, i think Deva is stronger than Itachi

Wow. Out of the things you stated, most of them aren't facts but your own little additions to give itachi nerf down powers. Not even gonna argue there. Just saying, when you're favorite character is outshines by another, there's. I need t hate on the other. Every day, there's minimum of 1 thread, belittling Itachi in one way or another, or putting him against other chars and saying he stands no chance it's a manga. Get over it and stop being, on an imbeciles language "butthurt" over the fact that Itachi pawns. Why all the hate?
P.S this message wasn't personal, it goes out to all haters so no offence to bogard

 

[severjano]

I think Deva Path is stronger than Itachi for these reasons:

• - Close combat is dangerous when you fight Deva, since you could get hurt badly by a shinra tensei powerful enough to even kill huge toad summons and break all bones in Gamabunta
  
• - Genjutsu which is Itachis main power won't work on a dead body, especially when you know that he has Rinnengan, which is stronger than Sharingan
  
• - Amaterasu is a close range jutsu, so to hit Deva, he would have to surprise him in close range, and eventhen, we've seen it's useless since Shinra tensei could push it away
  
• - Susanoo: Sure it's a great defense, but this defense won't help against Deva since he can control gravity. So it means he could push/attrack someone with either Shinra tensei or Banshou tenin just by manipulating the center of gravity of his body. In this case, any defense won't help. So he could directly push Itachi or attrack him regardless of Susanoo or something. We've seen that Gaara was able to separate Susanoo from his user(Madara), so Deva who can control gravity could do it even better
  
• Totsuka? Supposing it even hurts Deva somehow, you must know how totsuka works to begin with. It takes the soul of the opponent and then the process of sealing starts. But problem here is that Deva is a dead body, so hurting him with totsuka(if he even manage to) would be useless also since he could not take a soul simply because the soul doesn't exist. Deva is only like a puppet Nagato manipulates from far distance

In the worse case of scenario, he can even use Chibaku tensei, something against we've seen Itachi couldn't handle alone

So, i think Deva is stronger than Itachi

bull crap genjutsu work jmain already proved that amteraseru isnt close range its long sasuke proved that against bee

 

[niknika]

Itachi is waay faster than Base Naruto. He was even able to keep up with Kyuubi Mode Naruto.

All Itachi needs to do spam Long ranged jutsu until he the Deva Path counters with Shinra Tensei. Itachi will easily move an attack.


Jiraiya trapped Pain in a genjutsu. All he needs is a Paralysis Genjutsu long enough to kill the Deva Path.


Nagato still took great damage from pushing Amaterasu. Had he not been an Edo Tensei, he might not have gotten back up.


We also know they can move along with Susano'o. Plus, Susano'o can be activated faster than lightning(Sasuke's Kirin).

Also bringing Itachi close to you can be dangerous, Simply because of Amaterasu or Eye contact.


Totsuka took their body into the jar as well.


6 Paths of Pain vs Itachi... Ehhh They would most likely win. They'd either end up killing each other or one winning by an inch.

Deva Path vs Itachi - Itachi. Mid.

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As seen here. He can probably make more if the Yasaka Magatama for Chibaku Tensei.

Wow. Knew everything you wrote. I was just to lazy to counter bogard on his assumptions nothing to add honestly. You are a wise man

 

[Bogard]

Wow. Out of the things you stated, most of them aren't facts but your own little additions to give itachi nerf down powers. Not even gonna argue there. Just saying, when you're favorite character is outshines by another, there's. I need t hate on the other. Every day, there's minimum of 1 thread, belittling Itachi in one way or another, or putting him against other chars and saying he stands no chance it's a manga. Get over it and stop being, on an imbeciles language "butthurt" over the fact that Itachi pawns. Why all the hate?
P.S this message wasn't personal, it goes out to all haters so no offence to bogard

Sorry if i broke your heart by revealing you the truth

 

[severjano]

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well naruto beat deva alone because of pain,s 5 sec weakness so i am sure itachi wins this 1

 

[Lambeezy]

Nagotos seald in Toska Blade nuff said

 

[markdabomb22]

Tsukuyomi assaults the targets mind, and considering Deva Path is a no more than a proxy for Nagato, it simply will have no effect on what is merely a dead body. As we saw with Gama Rinshō, Nagato wasn't affected despite some of his paths getting caught. So Tsukuyomi would be pointless. Anyhow, I believe Nagato could very easily break out of this visual based genjutsu for reasons I outlined in my other

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Nice thread however i disagree highly with the last part
the ast part its built on the complete bases that since nagatos eyes belong to an uchiha that makes nagato now have uchiha blood......he may posses uchiha dna however just because he may have uchiha dan does not make him an uchiha only uchiha clan members have uchiha blood weather he is distantly related to the sage does not mean that he has uchiha blood remember the senju and the uchiha are distant decendants of the sages sons the uzumaki are the uzumaki and the uchiha are the uchiha.

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kakashi has a sharingan that was transplanted however itachi says that your body may be suitable for that eye but it does not contain any of our blood. so clearly dna and blood are completely two different things seeing that kakashi has had that eye for years.
Also using sasuke vs itachis fight as an example of tsukuyomi being broken is fail. itachi was not fighting for real...and sasuke fits the exact qualifications to break itachis tsukuyomi.

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As for Deva path vs itachi i say itachi wins due to deva having limited ability's. deva path is not going to lead off with CT its like saying itachi would lead off with izanami..... and with a interval needed to use ST all itachi has to do is get deva to use his ST then hit him within that time itachi is a great strategist and incredibly quick so it shouldn't be to difficult. I say itachi wins high diff

 

[monkeybundle]

hhhhhhhh, honestly, itachi does not have the strength to beat deva path, also how do you guys know that itachi will even hit him with the sword, deva path can fly, he has gravity on his side, and i dont think the deva path is stupid enough to fall into gen jutsu that easily, but ya fanboys will be fanboys, also if itachi uses susanoo, nagato can outlast susanoo because he can fly then chibaku tensei then its all over, SUSANOO ONLY LAST FOR SO LONG, people dont seem to get that, nagato wins this mid-high diff

 

[Jukain]

deva didnt solo...he ran/survived six tails there is a difference

Na bro he fought and defeated the sixtails. go watch it again if he didn't go eight tails he would of died from the pressure.

 

[Jukain]

Nagotos seald in Toska Blade nuff said

He's talking about deva path. and Nagato ONLY got sealed because he was triple teamed and nagato couldn't walk so quit acting like itachi managed to pull of off on his own.

 

[Sarutobie]

People saying frog song worked on the paths so tsukuyomi will also work must be reading the manga from right to left!..even tayuya's flute genjutsu caught itachi and sasuke..despite tayuya's genjutsu being weaker than a senjutsu enhanced genjutsu by two toad sages..frog genjutsu is a paralysis genjutsu that's why it caught the paths..paralysis genjutsu affects your body..visual genjutsu affects your pyche..that's why even a torture genjutsu(like the one used on the animal path) didn't work..tsukuyomi won't work for the same reason..

 

[khaydz5]

Itachi is waay faster than Base Naruto. He was even able to keep up with Kyuubi Mode Naruto.

All Itachi needs to do spam Long ranged jutsu until he the Deva Path counters with Shinra Tensei. Itachi will easily move an attack.


Jiraiya trapped Pain in a genjutsu. All he needs is a Paralysis Genjutsu long enough to kill the Deva Path.


Nagato still took great damage from pushing Amaterasu. Had he not been an Edo Tensei, he might not have gotten back up.


We also know they can move along with Susano'o. Plus, Susano'o can be activated faster than lightning(Sasuke's Kirin).

Also bringing Itachi close to you can be dangerous, Simply because of Amaterasu or Eye contact.


Totsuka took their body into the jar as well.


6 Paths of Pain vs Itachi... Ehhh They would most likely win. They'd either end up killing each other or one winning by an inch.

Deva Path vs Itachi - Itachi. Mid.

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As seen here. He can probably make more if the Yasaka Magatama for Chibaku Tensei.

you're wrong with just a couple of things...

1st are you assuming itachi had the same caliber of genjutsu as the frog song? are you even aware that the genjutsu ma and pa used is the strongest sage genjutsu as stated by manga and databook? itachi was also trapped in a sound genjutsu so don't think that itachi can just use any paralysis visual genjutsu to restrict deva. I do believe that deva/nagato can break out of any of itachi's visual genjutsu.

2nd I suggest you look again at the strength of yasaka magatama, it didn't even destroy the cave , just small blast around kabuto. are you saying that it has the power of TBB?? lol. and you should check again manga coz it clearly shows the lack of knowledge here. one TBB is not even enough to destroy or even scratch CT let alone a weak attack like yasaka magatama.

Nice thread however i disagree highly with the last part
the ast part its built on the complete bases that since nagatos eyes belong to an uchiha that makes nagato now have uchiha blood......he may posses uchiha dna however just because he may have uchiha dan does not make him an uchiha only uchiha clan members have uchiha blood weather he is distantly related to the sage does not mean that he has uchiha blood remember the senju and the uchiha are distant decendants of the sages sons the uzumaki are the uzumaki and the uchiha are the uchiha.

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kakashi has a sharingan that was transplanted however itachi says that your body may be suitable for that eye but it does not contain any of our blood. so clearly dna and blood are completely two different things seeing that kakashi has had that eye for years.
Also using sasuke vs itachis fight as an example of tsukuyomi being broken is fail. itachi was not fighting for real...and sasuke fits the exact qualifications to break itachis tsukuyomi.

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As for Deva path vs itachi i say itachi wins due to deva having limited ability's. deva path is not going to lead off with CT its like saying itachi would lead off with izanami..... and with a interval needed to use ST all itachi has to do is get deva to use his ST then hit him within that time itachi is a great strategist and incredibly quick so it shouldn't be to difficult. I say itachi wins high diff

ehrm good analysis and all about tsukuyomi but you failed to realize couple of things, nagato has the rinnegan are you seriously comparing rinnegan to sharingan?

2nd, do you know how tsukuyomi works? I'll give you a hint, deva's body doesn't feel pain and even if you mentally torture him there won't be any effect.

3rd nagato doesn't need to sacrifice an eye just to use chibaku tensei so he can use deva right away to cast CT, while itachi will lose his eye once he used izanami.. so I doubt itachi would use it at the start of the battle,and you should also know how much time itachi needs to just cast izanami.

 

[Arcaneos510X]

holy shit this thraed ****en exploded these last few days.
but i realy would like to see this fight it would be a good one but add somone else like a 3 way fight cant think of anyone that would fit tho...

 

[killerman82]

It would be a good battle.

 

[khaydz5]

Deva Was Taken Down By A Normal Rasengan and itachi is smarter than naruto to discover that interval thing before he uses chibaku tensei

tell me what happened before that fanboy

 

[Epix Itachi]

I think Deva Path is stronger than Itachi for these reasons:

• - Close combat is dangerous when you fight Deva, since you could get hurt badly by a shinra tensei powerful enough to even kill huge toad summons and break all bones in Gamabunta
  
• - Genjutsu which is Itachis main power won't work on a dead body, especially when you know that he has Rinnengan, which is stronger than Sharingan
  
• - Amaterasu is a close range jutsu, so to hit Deva, he would have to surprise him in close range, and eventhen, we've seen it's useless since Shinra tensei could push it away
  
• - Susanoo: Sure it's a great defense, but this defense won't help against Deva since he can control gravity. So it means he could push/attrack someone with either Shinra tensei or Banshou tenin just by manipulating the center of gravity of his body. In this case, any defense won't help. So he could directly push Itachi or attrack him regardless of Susanoo or something. We've seen that Gaara was able to separate Susanoo from his user(Madara), so Deva who can control gravity could do it even better
  
• Totsuka? Supposing it even hurts Deva somehow, you must know how totsuka works to begin with. It takes the soul of the opponent and then the process of sealing starts. But problem here is that Deva is a dead body, so hurting him with totsuka(if he even manage to) would be useless also since he could not take a soul simply because the soul doesn't exist. Deva is only like a puppet Nagato manipulates from far distance

In the worse case of scenario, he can even use Chibaku tensei, something against we've seen Itachi couldn't handle alone

So, i think Deva is stronger than Itachi[/QUOTE

YOUR STATEMENT HAS TOO MANY FLAWS.

1. Sounds like your basing Itachi jutsu mainly on his fight with Sasuke. (EPIC FAIL) for a guy who was ailing from his sickness and wanted to die at his brother hands.
2. Deva Path did not have full control over the Rennigan jus as Nagato stated. Duh! Sounds like ur making as if Nagato fully knowledgeable of it and he clearly stated he didn't unlock the Rennigan like SO6P. He maybe had the most powerful dojutsu but he didn't fully have all its power.
3. Itachi understood how Shrinei Tensi weakness in a matter of seconds and told Naruto and Bee to attact its weak point and destroyed it.
4. Deva path can only fully used Shrini Tensi in 5 second intervals and Naruto figured it out so as we know Itachi is way smarter than him so he would defenitly figure it out faster and would develop a plan to stop it the first if not the second time.
5. Itachi quick hand signs and his vast knowledge on Kinjutsu would out smart Deva Path.
6. If I am not mistaken Itachi also blocked all of the Rennigan vision!!! With Kuni blades.!!! So no 360 vision for Nagato!!
7. Susanno snatched Naruto and Bee from Nagato soul stealing jutsu!!!
Tuska Blade sealed Nagato at full power!!

Sorry ur tread is pointless and u know it is now!! :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::ice::ice::ice::kagutsuchi::kagutsuchi:

 

[markdabomb22]

ehrm good analysis and all about tsukuyomi but you failed to realize couple of things, nagato has the rinnegan are you seriously comparing rinnegan to sharingan?

2nd, do you know how tsukuyomi works? I'll give you a hint, deva's body doesn't feel pain and even if you mentally torture him there won't be any effect.

3rd nagato doesn't need to sacrifice an eye just to use chibaku tensei so he can use deva right away to cast CT, while itachi will lose his eye once he used izanami.. so I doubt itachi would use it at the start of the battle,and you should also know how much time itachi needs to just cast izanami.

Only one of those paragraphs i wrote was pertaining to this thread xd the majority was for another thread......

@ your first point having the rinnegan gives you no edge when breaking tsukuyomi
This if from the databook

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Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness.

Its very specific.....the sharingan may evolve to the rinnegan but it does not mean that the rinnegan gains its capability if itharingan.if it did why does madara use his ems? as long as nagato does not have sharingan and uchiha blood he cannot break tsukuyomi

@ your second I never said it would work on deva.....majority of that post is pertaining to the guy i quoted's thread....i was talking about something completely different :sy:

@ your third CT is not something you lead of with like izanami i was not saying that it cant be used off the bat its just deva would not lead off with CT.