Proof that Deva is stronger than Itachi

[Jukain]

Just saying Bro no disrespect. One path of pain is not enough to beat Itachi in to a pulp in the first place. Simple explanation, because as a single path he is limited or some what lacking that's why pain is compose of six path to assist one another and be a formidable opponent. Where not talking about Nagato VS Itachi, the thread say who is stronger a single Deva path or Itachi. If Nagato only uses one Deva path his jutsu will be limited, cause a path has specific specialization(push and pull)..Itachi's gonna wipe the floor clean.

Deva path was able to solo the six tails and six tails>itachi. Deva wins high diff.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Why are all the facts needed anyway?

Deva path fought the nine-tails. It's quite clear to me that he could solo Itachi.

more like survived/ran from the nine tails lmao

personal i hate itachi but i think itachi will beat deva...he give him a run for his money AT LEAST

 

[~Sovereign~]

Deva path was able to solo the six tails and six tails>itachi. Deva wins high diff.

deva didnt solo...he ran/survived six tails there is a difference

 

[spatha]

Nagato's soul was channelled through the paths with the demonic stakes.

ok, you just stated yourself the reason for jmans genjutsu working was nagato controlling them with the chakra rods therefore genjutsu could work...But there has never been tell of any other manipulation (at least none that nagato can perform) other than edo tensei, and if you are implying deva is ET in this scenario, then totsuka would indeed work, since ET works by attaching a summoned soul to a living body. So, either case one of itachis formidable tactics could work, since you cant just say deva is magically animated but has no soul attached or is even controlled by chakra rods. That said, i still think deva in a true battle (no kind of plot no jutsu at work) would win simply because shinra or chibaku tensei would be more than enough to handle itachi. The only problem i foresee, is the cooldown that deva path has because with no other paths or rinnegan summons there to give him shared vision, in a few second cooldown, a top speed ninja like itachi could quite possibly sneak up behind deva and behead it, or some equally final means of killing it.

 

[saratobi sasuke]

Deva path was able to solo the six tails and six tails>itachi. Deva wins high diff.

One look from Itachi's eye and your six tail will be tamed like a puppy..

 

[Dubbuoo]

Nagato is sitting in the Tostsuka jar...........nuff said

THHIIIISSSSS!!!!!!!!xd

 

[Vexorian]

Heres why..........Itachi looks at you and its over. No one can solo Itachi without having back up or a Sharingan.

That's a stretch. Edo Nagato was shown to be fully capable of fighting 3 Itachi's, two of which were better than Itachi himself. I do believe Deva Path is capable of fighting him alone, but do I think he'd win alone? Probably not. If he uses Chibaku Tensei or Chou Shinra Tensei, Itachi would just cut him with the sword, as both make him more-or-less immobile and take time to kick into effect.

But, I would like to point out that Bansho Ten'in would likely be able to yank Itachi right out of the Susano'o, meaning Itachi, having no prior knowledge, could die very easily indeed.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Nagato is sitting in the Tostsuka jar...........nuff said

Yes, after he fought two Kage level Jinchuuriki and Itachi.

I don't see why this is so hard to grasp. I don't get how even Kabuto himself can downplay Nagato for that, yet people STILL seem to think that Itachi single-handedly destroyed Chibaku Tensei when he had the help of of Killer Bee and Naruto.

Itachi has unlimited chakra as an Edo. We now know this as FACT. So why would he have Naruto and Bee help break Shinra Tensei if he could do it by himself? THEY don't have infinite chakra. Saving chakra would be...I don't know... Kind of beneficial for a war?

Some food for thought. Had Naruto and Bee not helped, Itachi would be in a moon right now.

And to the OP, while I do agree that you have POINTS that are valid, you are simulating the battle as though it will only go AS YOU SEE IT.

Itachi can still capture Nagato in a genjutsu, seeing as Jiraiya did it. Though it would only affect Deva and not Nagato himself. But it's still AS likely that Nagato could use a large scale Shinra Tensei to hit Itachi too, or yank him out of Susano'o with Bansho Ten'in. I find the battle more in Nagato's favor though, NOT because of his Rinnegan being better than the Sharingan, that's a stupid point to make.

 

[tazze019]

Agree, Nice thread...

 

[Jinton Spam]

kamui the deva and hes out

 

[nibilbhai]

I disagree ur thread.... If u say genjutsu wont wrk on dead bodies then how come Jiraiya counter them with genjutsu... Itachi can make deva fall in genjutsu and then somehow he'll manage to seal the deva with his totsuka....

 

[Darkdeeds]

I think Deva Path is stronger than Itachi for these reasons:

• - Close combat is dangerous when you fight Deva, since you could get hurt badly by a shinra tensei powerful enough to even kill huge toad summons and break all bones in Gamabunta
  
• - Genjutsu which is Itachis main power won't work on a dead body, especially when you know that he has Rinnengan, which is stronger than Sharingan
  
• - Amaterasu is a close range jutsu, so to hit Deva, he would have to surprise him in close range, and eventhen, we've seen it's useless since Shinra tensei could push it away
  
• - Susanoo: Sure it's a great defense, but this defense won't help against Deva since he can control gravity. So it means he could push/attrack someone with either Shinra tensei or Banshou tenin just by manipulating the center of gravity of his body. In this case, any defense won't help. So he could directly push Itachi or attrack him regardless of Susanoo or something. We've seen that Gaara was able to separate Susanoo from his user(Madara), so Deva who can control gravity could do it even better
  
• Totsuka? Supposing it even hurts Deva somehow, you must know how totsuka works to begin with. It takes the soul of the opponent and then the process of sealing starts. But problem here is that Deva is a dead body, so hurting him with totsuka(if he even manage to) would be useless also since he could not take a soul simply because the soul doesn't exist. Deva is only like a puppet Nagato manipulates from far distance

In the worse case of scenario, he can even use Chibaku tensei, something against we've seen Itachi couldn't handle alone

So, i think Deva is stronger than Itachi

Why wouldn't a genjutsu work on a path of pein again? Rinnegan does not give immunity to genjutsu and last i check itachi is a master of genjutsu.

And as someone else said kakashi put up a damn good fight im sure itachi can stand a better chance.

 

[nibilbhai]

lol... hw can u say that if deva is falled in genjutsu, nagato wont fall.... They are VISUALLY LINKED

 

[Hidden Mist Village]

I agree.

 

[Paintachi]

stupid trolls/haters/fans listen to me

Itachi is not stronger then nagato complete but he can at least take down 4 or 5 paths at once . this is the biggest troll i ever saw against itachi.

 

[khaydz5]

FIRST:
--Itachi will held his own against your Deva path when it comes to taijutsu battle. He can even rival with Naruto in his KM mode and killer Bee and pushing his back just by using his taijutsu and speed, that dude has incredible speed and reflexes not to mention power..If the Deva path face and solo Itachi he will be killed for sure men. You say he is no match because of his shinra tensei, dude Naruto defeated deva path and devices a scheme to beat his ass, and itachi is at least ten time smarter than Naruto, he will surely find a way to counter those jutsu in no time. And Gamabunta does not have a Spiritual skeleton chakra defense, even if Deva path toss itachi everywhere it will be no effect. Dont compare Itachi with those low life summons, thats your biggest mistake here.


SECOND
--- You sure did not watch and read the manga. Jiraiya beat 3 pains in a 1 shot Genjutsu so please dont make such a remark that they're impervious to Eye technique/ Genjutsu. Its actually his biggest weakness in a battle, a genjutsu type opponent. Hey! even Kotoamatsukami work on Itachi even though his undead remember. A GEN can work on those puppet you see. This is the second biggest mistake you made in this thread. Try reading the manga more dude i advice it before making a thread.


THIRD
--- True, but Itachi will not use one of his strongest jutsu just like that or as easy as that, he will surely use it when the time is right-on and if timing is falwless. His a genius Shinobi he will not be carried away and just burn the place up by spamming Amaterasu all over the place. Deva path has time limit when using his push and pull jutsu and a time duration before he can use it again in a another assault. I think is about 3 to 5 seconds interval of each jutsu. Naruto did used this weaknesss against him and so will Itachi. A few seconds is enough for Itachi to beat his ass down to a pulp.


FORTH
--- He can push Itachi as many time as he want too but he will not acquire enough damage to lose on such a mundane jutsu of yours. If He continues to spam his jutsu to itachi that will he his down fall on that battle, repetition is not a good thing against Itachi. Like just i said there's an interval when using his technique he cant use it instantaneously, as if he could.


FIFTH
--- You said:Totsuka? Supposing it even hurts Deva somehow, you must know how totsuka works to begin with. It takes the soul of the opponent (It takes the soul of the opponent and then the process of sealing starts. But problem here is that Deva is a dead body, so hurting him with totsuka(if he even manage to) would be useless also since he could not take a soul simply because the soul doesn't exist. Deva is only like a puppet Nagato manipulates from far distance)

REPLY:
- You don't understand the capability of the Totsuka sword at all men.

- That blade can seal everything including the very fiber of your molecular body have dude, not only your soul will be sealed but also your body as the same time when your pierce by it. Dont assume that Deva is unsealable because his undead. Itachi manage to seal Nagato on his edo form and everything was suck down, down to the last drop of his revived beat up being. Noting was left on Nagato's edo body that conclude's that it can seal everything just by piercing it. The third mistake of this thread.


SIXTH
--- You said: (In the worse case of scenario, he can even use Chibaku tensei, something against we've seen Itachi couldn't handle alone
So, i think Deva is stronger than Itachi)

REPLY:

-He is stronger by brute force alone because of his chakra reserve but his insane if he goes lone man in a totem pole against Itachi in an actual fight. Itachi has many arsenal jutsu in his sleeve i dont think deva path has a chance to make out of this alive. Your chibaku tensei? Good grief, multiple YASAKA'S MAGATAMA can blow that thing in SMITHEREENS. I've remember this chapter when Itachi point a finger to Naruto and say " YOU HAVE TO BE CALM TO ANALYZE THE SITUATION PROPERLY" and poof there goes the ice breaker for Nagato mighty Chibaku tensei.

SUMMARY
- If he face Itachi alone his as good as dead i'll tell you, BASICALLY HIS ALREADY DEAD ANYWAY SO WHATS THE PROBLEM? hehehe So it will be like preserving the natural order of life in Naruto world.

lol fanboys will be fanboys, eventhough I agree that deva alone cannot win against itachi this poor dude exaggerate things way too much.

1st, itachi can't destroy chibaku tensei alone. he simply doesn't have the power. if deva starts with chibaku there is no other way itachi can destroy it. do you actually think yasaka magatama is even equal to a tailed beast bomb!? check manga again and see how weak yasaka magatama is compare to tbb blast.stfu fanboy.

2nd, you can't say pain's weakness is genjutsu just because we saw him being affected by the strongest SAGE genjutsu. if you follow that logic then itachi and sasuke's weakness is genjutsu aswell coz they were affected by a sound genjutsu much like what happened on the paths.

 

[tazze019]

lol... hw can u say that if deva is falled in genjutsu, nagato wont fall.... They are VISUALLY LINKED

Did you what happen when Ibiki Morino turtor Animal path. Nagato feel no pain as well as Animal Path

 

[TobisPawn]

Could have made this a two word thread: "Chibaku Tensei."

 

[Scryed]

Whatever Totsuka Blade pierces, it seals. It doesn't work like Human Path which pulls one's soul out.

For the most part, Deva Path has counters that could bring Itachi out of Susanoo, repel Amaterasu, and Tsukyomi would be useless if the body feels no pain. I do believe Tsukyomi would work on him. Rinnegan doesn't make him immune to genjutsu but if anything, it would allow him to fight against it and try to overpower it. Even that is a maybe.

But alone, it would put up a good fight. Considering that the main offensive of the six paths of pain would involve a combination with Deva Path which could swipe his opponents off their feet and the other paths could attack them while they are in mid-air.

Alone, I think Itachi would wind up winning through Totsuka Blade for the most part. CT and a Massive Shinra Tensei both have their blind spots that seem to be opposite. CT, the time it takes to form the sphere which would leave him open to other attacks if the other paths aren't there. Massive Shinra Tensei's interval would leave him without his gravitational powers for a few minutes that could prove to be fatal if the other paths aren't with him.

If the Massive Shinra Tensei hits, then its sheer force might kill him or atleast leave him severely injured with broken bones. Yata Mirror might be able to block it but i'm not so sure how it repels gravity. Either Yata Mirror will block it and Deva Path would be powerless and would have to resort to evading while Itachi is in Susanoo trying to seal him. Or Shinra Tensei will at least thrust Itachi away from Susanoo (not affecting Yata Mirror) and cause severe damage to his bones, organs, or even kill him.

CT would pull everything towards it including the ground. By the time Itachi gets near, it will probably already have a layer over it. Susanoo will keep him well guarded in CT but the moment he runs out of chakra, he will be crushed. It might be possible to seal the core if there is no debris getting in the way or no layer. Since if it already has a layer of boulders and such and Totsuka pierces it, it might only seal the boulder which is part of CT but an individual object. That's also a maybe but CT has the best way of defeating Itachi but leaves him open while he's forming the sphere.

I believe the 6 paths of pain would defeat Itachi.
Deva Path alone though, would prove to be a difficult fight since it has appropiate counters or ways of enduring or overcoming Itachi's tech's. Except Totsuka Blade but Deva Path also showed a good speed feat while fighting 6 tails Naruto. In the end, i'll give this one to Itachi against Deva Path alone.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Itachi is fast enough to possibly catch the interval of shinra tensei with Amaterasu, then while Deva's getting blown away Boom!!! Totsuka sword. It won't be that easy but I think itachi can take this med difficulty.