Proof that Deidara > Killer Bee

[Prince Charles]

1. I showed you a scan of Kisame getting Lariated and you're the one who said, "he was still talking." :| That sounds like high endurance to me? He was bleeding out, and was still able to talk. That's a pretty big feat. If Kisame, who isn't even human, has much much more chakra than Deidara, and could not withstand the Lariat, can't stand after it. Why do you think Deidara can. Deidara shows no feat of such. That's pure speculation.

2. Suigetsu was pushing his sword against Bee's, and he says himself he's weak against Bee's Raiton:

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Then Sasuke puts his hand on the bottom to stop Bee, but Bee just keeps going. Juugo finally stops the assault. That proves that Bee's raiton is > Sasuke's at the very least. He's also better than Suigetsu's suiton. He kept going through both of them, so Bee's Raitong > Sasuke's Raiton + Suigetsu's Suiton.

I know i said he was still talking.. that was me merely saying if he is capable of still talking shows his endurance, it isnt equal but it just goes to show what deidara is capable of.

It isnt pure speculation when i have manga panels to that clearly show that diedara is superior in the category of endurance to pain.

Sugestu said that because Bee's raiton was effecting him ... in no way shape or form does that scan suggest that suigestsu amplified sasukes raiton when clearly the raiton was effecting sugestsu hence why he said that!

 

[Waltz]

@Prince Charles:

Samehada got hit first, isn't it obvious that it took some of the impact? Also, was referring to the chakra absorption factor that both Sameahada and kisame absorbed Bee's chakra on contact:

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Without the Shark Skin katana, Bee's lariat would have punched a clean hole through Kisame. Coating of the interior doesn't mean he no longer needs to breathe [

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]. Conjecture..it was never stated or implied that Bee's lungs would burst while in is Version 2 state.

Using Naruto at that time is a poor example as:

-> Naruto was not a perfect jinchuriki at the time.
-> Bee is able to use his Version 2 state without suffering burns.
-> Naruto suffered no burns after returning from his 8 tails state.

That version of the cloak mode coats the jinchuriki internally, meaning their entire interior down to basic cells are protected by this "coat" and once again the reason as to why naruto's body did not burst after during the inflation cause by the Bijuu-dama he swallowed.


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[BazzBee]

Nah my man, i hate to say this But Killer bee takes this, but + Rep for all the effort put into this thread it was a good read U_U

 

[Brother Numpsay]

@Waltz If you look carefully on the scans of V2 cloak you post, you can see that Naruto was breathing in to do his attack (SFX):

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Any example is Kinkaku Exhaling with v2 cloack:

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This proves that v2 cloack still breath then normal. Even though you can't see how C4 bombs will bypass V2 cloak. They are still vulnerable to breathing it in.

 

[Waltz]

@EjBlack:

Doesn't Matter. C4 enters the blood stream meaning that their explosions affect individual cells within the body as they are completely vulnerable [

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]. While in a pseudo jinchuriki state the internal bodily structures are coated as well as the external...down to the point of individual cells for reasons already stated. If it was not the case, Naruto would have been either dead or in a critical state after

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as it would require his cells to stretch beyond their limits and eventually burst....not to mention the intense heat provided by the ingested Bijuu-dama would have permanently ruptured his organs. ​

 

[Multiply]

I know i said he was still talking.. that was me merely saying if he is capable of still talking shows his endurance, it isnt equal but it just goes to show what deidara is capable of.

It isnt pure speculation when i have manga panels to that clearly show that diedara is superior in the category of endurance to pain.

Sugestu said that because Bee's raiton was effecting him ... in no way shape or form does that scan suggest that suigestsu amplified sasukes raiton when clearly the raiton was effecting sugestsu hence why he said that!

1. How do you know? Losing arms will never, ever, feel as painful as having your chest blown open. Sasuke passed out due to the pain. Just stop kidding yourself... You've lost this point entirely when you think someone who had their chest blown open isn't feeling as much pain as someone who lost their hand. :|

2. Where... I have a manga page of Kisame getting his chest blown open. You don't have a manga page of deidara having his chest blown open. You have him losing an arm and legs... :|

3. Look closely in to Suigetsu's face. You can see him liquefying. Even so, my point is made that Bee's raiton is much higher than Sasuke's. You seem to even agree.

 

[Prince Charles]

1. How do you know? Losing arms will never, ever, feel as painful as having your chest blown open. Sasuke passed out due to the pain. Just stop kidding yourself... You've lost this point entirely when you think someone who had their chest blown open isn't feeling as much pain as someone who lost their hand. :|

2. Where... I have a manga page of Kisame getting his chest blown open. You don't have a manga page of deidara having his chest blown open. You have him losing an arm and legs... :|

3. Look closely in to Suigetsu's face. You can see him liquefying. Even so, my point is made that Bee's raiton is much higher than Sasuke's. You seem to even agree.

..... Meh i can easily counter this but you got your own opinion and reasoning and i have mines. =D

 

[Multiply]

..... Meh i can easily counter this but you got your own opinion and reasoning and i have mines. =D

So you think losing arms hurts more than having your chest blown open. Meh... I guess we're done here then XD

 

[-Punk-]

I Agree AC my man mmmmmh , for some reason i can't thank the post :/ But Rep ^_^ . People Underate Deidara so much & he is one of the strongest of the Akatski .

 

[Zexion~]

If killer bee finds out that raiton deactivates his bombs somehow then he wins ..

 

[ILikeBigYolos]

So many people using ABC Logic. Just accept the fact that AkatsukiChurch proved his point with manga proof.

 

[blackstar9]

Firstly, Deidara's chakra pools are inferior to Kirābī's and his clay bombs are rendered ineffective if Raiton is applied; meaning that Bee already has the advantage as even an inexperience shinobi as Sasuke was knowledgeable of the fact that Doton is weak against raiton [

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] and is easily observable through Deidara's handseals. Something as simple as bee's

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/swords is enough to disable Deidara's bombs and highlights the fight that Bee is able to channel this chakra through any inanimate object and may be used to his advantage. Deidara mouning C1 means nothing as while being in his Pseudo jinchuriki state [an instant transformation] it greatly enhances Bee's physical ability; allotting him the ability to jump to extraordinary heights [

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] It is also rendered useless by the

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. Bee could simply blitz Deidara and finish him with a V2/V1 lariat at the beginning of the fight; given his shunshin feats. Deidara's explosives aren't affecting the Version 2 cloak as it is tough enough to withstand bijuu-dama equaling the scales of C3 [

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] as well as Kusanagi no Tsurugi's penetrative ability; solely implying that your claims that the explosives will aid to the heat increase are false. The water dome also had no cooling effect on either of Bee's cloaks as it was never stated or implied an issue, merely your speculation. Bee takes little to no time to perform Bijuu dama as his current feats in doing so surpasses your old references give that he is:

-> Able to produce several at once [

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-> Able to form it within minimal time [

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Deidara's C4 bombs are not by bypassing either of the cloak modes and would be finish long before he's able to use such a jutsu. In terms of Taijutsu, Kirābī is clearly the superior of the two. To mention also that if bee decides to use the full hachibi he still has

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to rely on. Overall Bee is not only at extreme advantages but the better shinobi of the two. It's rather strange to actually think someone like Deidara has a chance against a perfect Jinchuriki. ​

I like deidera but this was a thread ender !

 

[Zexion~]

@EjBlack:

Doesn't Matter. C4 enters the blood stream meaning that their explosions affect individual cells within the body as they are completely vulnerable [

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]. While in a pseudo jinchuriki state the internal bodily structures are coated as well as the external...down to the point of individual cells for reasons already stated. If it was not the case, Naruto would have been either dead or in a critical state after

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as it would require his cells to stretch beyond their limits and eventually burst....not to mention the intense heat provided by the ingested Bijuu-dama would have permanently ruptured his organs. ​

Or it simply could be attributed to the rapid healing Jinchurki posses.

 

[MickNerks]

So how does Deidara counter this?

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[Draegod]

KILLER BEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They both are my ninjas, but Bee is slept on by the entire site! Bee wins mid difficulty.

 

[Fanta]

So how does Deidara counter this?

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^ Good point Lol

 

[Prince Charles]

So how does Deidara counter this?

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Um you do know deidara can take flight and get out of the range of the wind torrent.. But i don't really want to get into this again.

 

[Multiply]

Um you do know deidara can take flight and get out of the range of the wind torrent.. But i don't really want to get into this again.

Deidara's fast... but not that fast. I think the problem is in this thread, everyone is overestimating Deidara for some reason. He's a good shinobi who could beat most. Bee is not a good match-up for him because he's faster, stronger, and has more powerful ninjutsu. Above all else, he's lightning based...

 

[Optimistic]

Um you do know deidara can take flight and get out of the range of the wind torrent.. But i don't really want to get into this again.

No way is Deidara fast enough to get out of shut a large move.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Bee would whack Deidara, lmao.