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Deidara VS. Kirābī​

I was kinda bored so I decided to do this.. You can skip to ''Why Deidara Triumphs'' section if you wish since I didn't explain anything until then. The underlined and red texts are links.



Deidara, the Explosion Release Artist

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Deidara's Abilities:

(The Simple Piece of Beauty) C1

Deidara's most basic and versatile form of explosive clay, that is created from a single palm mouth. These are small animated dolls that often resemble animals. Depending upon which variation is created, they will retain the abilities of the creatures they were modelled after, i.e. those resembling birds can still fly. This feature combined with their little independent explosive power, makes them excellent for covert operations. He can produce and release a significant number of them at high speeds.

(Deidara's Favourite Piece of Art) The C2 Dragon

One of Deidara's specialities that requires the use of both of his palm mouths, creating a large dragon. The dragon itself is capable of flight, and, while Deidara is safely on its back, the dragon can spit out smaller clay figures that attack the opponent like guided missiles.

These independent missile-like creatures take the form of a greatly reduced version of the larger dragon that created them, however, despite this decrease in size they are still relatively larger than a normal person. Each is capable of tracking their intended target and producing a significant explosion proportional to size upon contact but as they emerge, they consume a substantial amount of clay from the original dragon, initially extracting it from the creature's tail. This ultimately limits the number that each C2 "Dragon" is capable of creating, before clay must be sacrificed from more vital areas, such as the body or wings. By using more clay, the missile's size and explosive power can be substantially increased.

The dragon can also produce clay mines at the expense of clay, that take the form of small spherical creatures, which can be subsequently manipulated to force opponents to fight in a limited space.

(The Village Buster) C3

Deidara's most powerful large scale bomb, that once activated becomes an enormous statue that Deidara drops on his target from above. Its explosive power was great enough to potentially destroy a large portion of Sunagakure.

In its first known demonstration, Deidara had already prepared the explosive clay for this attack. Once activated, the bomb instantaneously increases its proportions before being subsequently dropped, where it extends both its "arms" outwards until they are completely horizontal.

(The Nano Bombs) C4 Karura

A technique he created to counter the Sharingan and the genjutsu it produces, Deidara uses his own mouth instead of the ones on his hands to create a giant doll in his image. When the doll ruptures, it releases a cloud of microscopic bombs that enter the bloodstream of anyone who inhales them. On Deidara's command, the micro-bombs' detonation causes the victims' bodies to disintegrate at the cellular level; literally turning them into dust.
Kirābī, the Perfect Jinchuriki of Kumogakure

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Kirābī's Abilites:

(First Form) Version 1


Using his own chakra, Killer B can freely and quickly form a red demon cloak that surrounds his body, which creates his "Version 1". Once activated, his canine teeth and nails extend. The cloak itself gives Killer B paws of chakra around his hands and horns on his head. He can also create an additional set of horns on his forearms to use for his Lariat attack. The attack power of this form is very high as Killer B can either decapitate a person with a single smash of his forehead or if his Lariat connects he can completely blow away their entire chest causing massive damage, and even destroy a massive platform where he trains.

He enters a three-tailed form during his fight with Taka; and one, four, seven, and eight-tailed forms at different points during his battle with Kisame. Kisame's Samehada is able to absorb up to six of these tails at a time. Like Naruto's first three tailed forms, these tails are translucent with bubbles of chakra forming on the surface. Other than an incremental increase in Killer B's strength and speed, there are no obvious differences between the number of tails.

(Second Form) Version 2

By tapping into Gyūki's chakra reserves, Killer B can enter his "Version 2" (バージョン2, Bājon Tsū) forms. As stated by Sabu, this is done by forming the chakra into a human shape. These transformations are meant to give him an edge in battle without completely releasing Gyūki, as that would endanger anyone around him. To transform into Version 2, B forms eight Version 1 tails and wraps them around his body transforming him into Version 2, creating a crater underneath him. He can also enter Version 2 from his full Eight-Tails form.

The version 2 chakra cloak is much darker than version 1. In this form B's overall appearance changes drastically and while in this form, B becomes more muscular, and if necessary can create chakra bones, such as the bull's skull, to increase the strength of his attacks.

When struck by Samehada, only Gyūki's chakra is absorbed, so Killer B reverts to a version 1 form with the same number of tails. So far only the version 2 eight-tailed form has been seen, so it is unknown whether he can activate version 2 with fewer than eight tails. The amount of chakra in this form is so great that when Nagato absorbed it, it returned him to his appearance before he had used the Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path technique.

(Final Form) Gyūki

While fighting Taka, Killer B managed to wound Sasuke long enough to enter Tailed Beast Mode (尾獣モード, Bijū Mōdo), thus fully transforming into Gyūki, in which his skin is destroyed in a similar fashion as Naruto when he reaches the fourth tail and above. Although he was forbidden to fully transform by his brother due to its immense power, B tends to ignore this order, as he transforms to train or to fight formidable foes, above other reasons.

In this form, he is able to create a Tailed Beast Ball in front of his mouth and releases it as a widespread blast, causing destruction on a large scale. He can also create tremendous winds which can level a significant part of a forest with ease. In this form he is immensely durable, able to endure Amaterasu for a considerable amount of time- long enough to perform a Body Replacement Technique with a tentacle. He is also extremely fast in this form, able to block Amaterasu with his fist and strike extremely quickly with his tentacles.

(The Black Ball of a Demon) Bijūdama

The Tailed Beast Ball is the ultimate technique of a tailed beast. To form the attack, they gather both positive black chakra (+の黒チャクラ, purasu no kuro chakura), and negative white chakra (−の白チャクラ, mainasu no shiro chakura), shape it into a sphere, and then compress it inside their mouth. The black and white chakra needs to be balanced at an 8:2 ratio respectively or it will backfire.

(Shark Skin) Samehada

Samehada (鮫肌; Literally meaning "Shark Skin") is a large sentient sword, comparable in size to the Kubikiribōchō. It is described as "the most terrifying of all the Seven Swordsmen's blades" and even earned the title of "greatsword" (大刀, daitō), further adding to its fearsome reputation.

Why Deidara Triumphs:

Deidara, being an aerial fighter, will undountedly make a C1 bird and fly off.

Some may argue that Kirābī won't allow him to do so, but that doesn't matter since . Furthermore Deidara is a long ranged fighter so he would keep his distance and that would give him more time to make a C1 bird.

(Deidara releasing himself from the shuriken restraining him and creating a C1 bird a moment before reaching the ground.)
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Once Deidara gets in the air, the real battle between these two shinobi will begin.

Countering V1 and V2:

From Naruto's fight with Orochimaru we have seen that .

What I want to say with this is that Deidara can increase the burning effect by using his bombs to increase the heat.

The reasons as to why it didn't burn Kirābī in his battle against Kisame are:

1) The water cooled him down.

2) Both the Water Dome and .

(Kisame telling Kirābī that the Water Dome will suck up his chakra)
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With enough C1 bombs, Deidara should be able to damage Kirābī.

Then again.. It's also doubtful that Kirābī would even enter his V1 or V2 forms due to Deidara being an aerial fighter.

Countering Gyūki:

After seeing that his V1 and V2 forms are useless, Kirābī will without a doubt enter his full Gyūki form.

This will benefit both fighters. Kirābī will have a jutsu that can reach Deidara while it will be easier for Deidara's bombs to hit him due to his size.

While Kirābī is in his Gyūki form, he is a perfect target for if Gaara didn't tank it with his Ultimate Defense Sand.

Countering Bijūdama:

To take down Deidara, Kirābī will surely use his strongest jutsu: the Bijūdama. Unfortunately for him, Deidara has three ways to counter it:

1) Interruption.

As we have seen, Kirābī needs to concentrate in order to make a Bijūdama since .

, seeing as how .

While Kirābī is charging up a Bijūdama, Deidara can throw a C1 or a C2 bomb at him which would explode on Deidara's command and break Kirābī's concentration .

(A single C1 bomb was able to flip around the whole turtle island)
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2) Making the Bijūdama explode.

As we have seen before, so Deidara can use his larger C1 or C2 bombs to hit and explode in contact with a Bijūdama which will make the Bijūdama itself explode.

3) Evading.

Deidara's C1 birds should be able to evade the Bijūdama, seeing as how .

and the fact that Gaara was an another aerial fighter so he was closer to him.

If Kirābī tries to use multiple Bijūdama they'll be countered by way 2 or 1.. If one Bijūdama it will hit the rest and all of them will explode.

Countering Samehada:

Samehada will be almost useless here. She won't be able to absorb the bombs due to the heat a explosion produces and . Furthermore Samehada wasn't able to absorb a simple Katon at all, .

Not to mention that Kirābī won't use her once he enters his Gyūki form.

Samehada wouldn't warn him of any trick Deidara tries to use on him since Samehada never ever warned Kirābī about anything. .

Samehada won't be really of use here since she would either have been killed by previous C1 or C2 bombs or Kirābī wouldn't use her due to being in his Gyūki form.

Conclusion:

If C3 or anything else fails to kill Kirābī, Deidara will use his strongest jutsu... The C4.

Since Kirābī has no intel nor sensing jutsu, he will breathe in the nano bombs which would result in his own death.




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this is not proof, its your opinion on the matter like pretty much any verse match up its all based on opinion and once own judgment so no it aint proof of anything
 

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Sorry, my friend, but Killer Bee would sh!t on Deidara..
But r e p + for the effort.

Btw, Hasn't Hachibi any sensing abilities?
 
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Deidera couldn't even beat Sasuke (without Mangekyou) but he will stand a chance against Bee?
 

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this is not proof, its your opinion on the matter like pretty much any verse match up its all based on opinion and once own judgment so no it aint proof of anything

But backed up with facts from the manga..
 

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Deidara owns a good majority of shinobi, idk why people constantly sleep on his ability, power and range
 

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You underrate the 8 tails. I will not even attempt your fanboyish opinion.
 

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So you said how deidara counters bees moves
But not how bee counters deidaras moves
That automatically makes your claim one-sided
You also simulated a fight between the two to your liking
You just assumed that that's how the fight would take place
And you made the fight as though deidara had the upper hand the whole time
I disagree
Killer bee wins
 

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Deidara VS. Kirābī​

I was kinda bored so I decided to do this.. You can skip to ''Why Deidara Triumphs'' section if you wish since I didn't explain anything until then. The underlined and red texts are links.






Why Deidara Triumphs:

Deidara, being an aerial fighter, will undountedly make a C1 bird and fly off.

Some may argue that Kirābī won't allow him to do so, but that doesn't matter since . Furthermore Deidara is a long ranged fighter so he would keep his distance and that would give him more time to make a C1 bird.

(Deidara releasing himself from the shuriken restraining him and creating a C1 bird a moment before reaching the ground.)
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Once Deidara gets in the air, the real battle between these two shinobi will begin.

Countering V1 and V2:

From Naruto's fight with Orochimaru we have seen that .

What I want to say with this is that Deidara can increase the burning effect by using his bombs to increase the heat.

The reasons as to why it didn't burn Kirābī in his battle against Kisame are:

1) The water cooled him down.

2) Both the Water Dome and .

(Kisame telling Kirābī that the Water Dome will suck up his chakra)
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With enough C1 bombs, Deidara should be able to damage Kirābī.

Then again.. It's also doubtful that Kirābī would even enter his V1 or V2 forms due to Deidara being an aerial fighter.

Countering Gyūki:

After seeing that his V1 and V2 forms are useless, Kirābī will without a doubt enter his full Gyūki form.

This will benefit both fighters. Kirābī will have a jutsu that can reach Deidara while it will be easier for Deidara's bombs to hit him due to his size.

While Kirābī is in his Gyūki form, he is a perfect target for if Gaara didn't tank it with his Ultimate Defense Sand.

Countering Bijūdama:

To take down Deidara, Kirābī will surely use his strongest jutsu: the Bijūdama. Unfortunately for him, Deidara has three ways to counter it:

1) Interruption.

As we have seen, Kirābī needs to concentrate in order to make a Bijūdama since .

, seeing as how .

While Kirābī is charging up a Bijūdama, Deidara can throw a C1 or a C2 bomb at him which would explode on Deidara's command and break Kirābī's concentration .

(A single C1 bomb was able to flip around the whole turtle island)
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2) Making the Bijūdama explode.

As we have seen before, so Deidara can use his larger C1 or C2 bombs to hit and explode in contact with a Bijūdama which will make the Bijūdama itself explode.

3) Evading.

Deidara's C1 birds should be able to evade the Bijūdama, seeing as how .

and the fact that Gaara was an another aerial fighter so he was closer to him.

If Kirābī tries to use multiple Bijūdama they'll be countered by way 2 or 1.. If one Bijūdama it will hit the rest and all of them will explode.

Countering Samehada:

Samehada will be almost useless here. She won't be able to absorb the bombs due to the heat a explosion produces and . Furthermore Samehada wasn't able to absorb a simple Katon at all, .

Not to mention that Kirābī won't use her once he enters his Gyūki form.

Samehada wouldn't warn him of any trick Deidara tries to use on him since Samehada never ever warned Kirābī about anything. .

Samehada won't be really of use here since she would either have been killed by previous C1 or C2 bombs or Kirābī wouldn't use her due to being in his Gyūki form.

Conclusion:

If C3 or anything else fails to kill Kirābī, Deidara will use his strongest jutsu... The C4.

Since Kirābī has no intel nor sensing jutsu, he will breathe in the nano bombs which would result in his own death.




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All of this for proving Deidara > Killer Bee ?
And yet you think Killer Bee can't sense him and use the Bijuudama ?
Deidara will hardly escape Bijuudama.

Besides, Bee can either get away from Deidara's bombs or in full form he won't be effected (almost). Zzz
 

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Deidara's weakness is lighting. Exactly what Killer bee has, and as well the Hachibi.

I disagree
 

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Deidera couldn't even beat Sasuke (without Mangekyou) but he will stand a chance against Bee?

Element advantage and Sasuke didn't defeat him either. Same as the Itachi fight. Sasuke didn't defeat neither. If Deidara took the fight more seriously he would have owned
 

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Element advantage and Sasuke didn't defeat him either. Same as the Itachi fight. Sasuke didn't defeat neither. If Deidara took the fight more seriously he would have owned

No. You are taking this wrong.
Itachi vs Sasuke: Itachi wasn't serious.
Deidara vs Sasuke: Deidara was 200% serious, he had plenty of reasons to defeat Sasuke. Why wouldn'y he be serious? Sasuke won, but hardly.
 

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So you said how deidara counters bees moves
But not how bee counters deidaras moves
That automatically makes your claim one-sided
You also simulated a fight between the two to your liking
You just assumed that that's how the fight would take place
And you made the fight as though deidara had the upper hand the whole time
I disagree
Killer bee wins

Actaully... This is supposed to be a Deidara > Bee thread.. Not a Deidara = Bee thread.. It's only logical that I explain how Deidara could win.
 

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Element advantage and Sasuke didn't defeat him either. Same as the Itachi fight. Sasuke didn't defeat neither. If Deidara took the fight more seriously he would have owned
Killer bee also have element advantage.
 

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It could go eitherway but I am leaning towards Killer Bee. He has Raiton, and could spam TBBs.
 

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Deidara's weakness is lighting. Exactly what Killer bee has, and as well the Hachibi.

I disagree

Bee isn't good at Raiton like Sasuke.. And besides, he has no intel on Deidara.. So how would he know that his weakness is Raiton and he can't sense the C4.
 
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