Proof that Deidara could be > Sasori (Actual Explanation Inside)

[soulreaper11]

sasori cause he is stronger took down a kage and deidara maybe the better long range fighter but sasori has more weopons and he cant die from the micro bombs that deidara use since he is a puttet.

 

[Scryed]

In this case, the Iron Sand will only serve to be temporary.

He'll have to resort using it as a distraction and focus on his puppets to do the offensive. Instead of using the Iron Sand mainly as a defence, he could use it as a temporary diversion(use your imagination) while he scatters his puppets since then, Deidara's focus will be 'scattered'.Spreading the Iron Sand on the floor with several puppets hiding under it incase Deidara decides to land after the sand is demagnetized. For once, the puppets will serve a better purpose than the Iron Sand.

The amount of puppets scattered in the sky would eventually force Deidara to land. Here, I would assume Deidara will have his eyes on the puppets in the sky. If this happens, Sasori could use the puppets below the Iron Sand to land atleast one scratch. Or could use severed parts of the puppets like the arm or blade alone. As for C0, as long as it doesn't waste his clay though the puppets are mainly airborne, Deidara might not want to use this if it means blowing himself up if he's faced with the situation of having to land to avoid being attacked from all directions.

I didn't mention C3 on this though. If Deidara uses it, Sasori is going to have to use his Iron Sand as a defence. After the explosion, Sasori would most likely be hidden within a smoke cloud caused by the explosion. If he survived the C3 explosion and didn't have his hundred puppets out already. He could use this opportunity to summon his puppets and launch them towards the sky to surprise Deidara (or hide a few under the demagnitized sand first if his sight isn't severely blocked by the smoke). Using this distraction to hide a few under his demagnetized sand(if he hasn't already) while he forces Deidara to land or approach the ground. If he uses C3 while the puppets are out, then they'll pretty much be wiped out unless he protects a few that he could hide under the Iron Sand along with him. Though if they're out already, he runs the risk of being caught in the explosion due to the sheer amount of puppets that would be sorrounding him. It will be hard to keep himself out of range of the blast radius.

Though if the sheer force of the explosions do destroy his chakra strings, I see the fight going entirely different. For Deidara to have called him his superior, Sasori must've had puppets with lightning style techniques that would've probably rendered his clay ineffective. Perhaps affecting the pouch itself. Unfortunately, we don't know.

 

[Warrior3]

I think Deidara would kick that Dolly's ass.

 

[Priyam Bhowmick]

Diederra wins bcuz of C4.

 

[hatake89]

Awesome as always. But a question do they have knowledge of each other tecnuiqes cause they were partners or are they "new" foes?

 

[Negative Knight]

Awesome as always. But a question do they have knowledge of each other tecnuiqes cause they were partners or are they "new" foes?

Thanks, though my next thread won't be a VS thread

They have knowledge of each other's techniques on a basic level.

Sasori knows Deidara uses Clay Bomb explosives, uses a C2 Dragon for flight and has devastating explosions like C3 (he saw it at Deidara vs Gaara).

Deidara knows that Sasori is a puppeteer, uses poisons, has seen his true form and knows Hiruko is only a defensive armour.

 

[hatake89]

Thanks, though my next thread won't be a VS thread

They have knowledge of each other's techniques on a basic level.

Sasori knows Deidara uses Clay Bomb explosives, uses a C2 Dragon for flight and has devastating explosions like C3 (he saw it at Deidara vs Gaara).

Deidara knows that Sasori is a puppeteer, uses poisons, has seen his true form and knows Hiruko is only a defensive armour.

Then on that note I'd say deidara. C4 karura and the nano sized lay bomb would handle sasori. If I'm not mistaken C4 karura is the big explosion right? If that's right and deidara uses it then it's a draw

 

[Negative Knight]

Then on that note I'd say deidara. C4 karura and the nano sized lay bomb would handle sasori. If I'm not mistaken C4 karura is the big explosion right? If that's right and deidara uses it then it's a draw

C4 Karura are the nano sized explosions and C3 Exploding Statue is the exploson that Deidara attempted to destroy the sand vilage with.

However i think you're talking about C0 where Deidara turns himself into a bomb, he can probably use that as a last resort.

Anyway thanks for the insight into knowledge being a key factor in this battle, +Rep

Hmmm I see... But I doubt Deidara would completely avoid the puppet army, it's just impossible for him. Remember Sasori took down a country with them, I doubt he couldn't touch Deidara with them. Your facts are good, but it's just that we know Sasori didn't go all out during his battle, obviously, so we might not have seen his full strenght. And in the Storm games, Sasori uses his puppets in waves, kind of like a giant Gatsuuga. Deidara is sure to get scratched by the time the puppets come out. And Sasori also has a rod in his body that is incredibly fast, even Sakura couldn't dodge it and his puppets give him enough cover to hit Deidara with it.

I can't see Deidara dodge 290+ separate weapons. I can't see anyone do that at all.

Essentially you're partially correct about this. Sasori's Puppet Army would be impossible to dodge completely for anyone but the weakness of his army lies in the fact that he is controlling them indirectly with the use of chakra puppet strings.

If Deidara could send out explosives to target Saosri rather than his swarm of puppets then he would force him to react by defending with his puppets thus retracting them or be hit and potenially destroy all the chakra strings connecting him to his puppet. I know which one he would choose.

C3 Exploding Statue or possibly C4 Karura could be used as an alternative to destroy Sasori's puppet army either completely through the use of an immense blast which would destroy most of the puppets and detach the remaining ones from Sasori due to the fragile connection between them or C4 serving as an alternative to disintegrate the chakra strings with the use of microscopic bombs Sasori wouldn't notice.

I'll slightly expand on my last point. If the range between Sasori and Deidara is substantial enough then all the chakra strings would all meet at a common point not to mention become more exposed as the opportunity to destroy them is larger. If the radius of C4 reaches where all the chakra strings meet then at the moment of detonation Sasori would be in a state of vulnerability like no other.

 

[hatake89]

C4 Karura are the nano sized explosions and C3 Exploding Statue is the exploson that Deidara attempted to destroy the sand vilage with.

However i think you're talking about C0 where Deidara turns himself into a bomb, he can probably use that as a last resort.

Anyway thanks for the insight into knowledge being a key factor in this battle, +Rep


Ohh okay I see... Well what I meant was with C0 deidara could draw and yes your right it's a last resort

 

[Lordofd100x]

I think everyone underestimates sasori because he got beaten by that chubby old lady, but he can fly like deidara and depending on who attacks first and how much they know about eachothers powers. Sasori without his main puppet ((which kankuro has)) will propably lose against deidara but since he admitted sasori was stronger doesnt anyone think thats not a hot-headed thing to say..

 

[Kikki]

Sorry for taking so long with my reply, my friend, but work was keeping me really busy. Because of the great quality of your versus threads, I will respond, even if I don't think that I can add anything new.

I think that Deidara would win that one, simply because of his huge range (I think he has one of the biggest combat ranges in the manga). He could possibly beat most of the other characters. If he is well-prepared and full health of course. Kamui got dangerous for him when Kakashi was running after him, but in that case, Deidara wanted to stay close to keep Naruto running after him. He did it on purpose to separate Kakashi and Naruto because he wanted to fight Naruto one on one. He didn't expect Kamui which was his only weakness.

Tobi can kill him for obvious reasons: Tobi can kill just about everyone and can't get hit. I love that Tobi finally has a weakness: Kakashi!

Normally, Deidara is really hard to beat and especially Sasori would have alot of problems getting close to him. He fights by using poisons and I don't think his chakra threads can go endlessly long, while Deidara can fight him from distance. Clear win for Deidara. He is very different from other shinobi and he is very skilled. His explosion style is nothing to easily counter, for nobody.

As for their battle of the arts... Can't tell who wins there.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Sasori alway's starts in hiruko. that is a solid fact about sasori.

I dont think hiruko has enough defence to survive C3.

Alternatly, this situation
Sasori: Behold! My ultimate move! Performance of 100 Puppets!(pulls out scroll)
Deidara: (Throws C1 bomb at scroll. Scroll explodes.)Art is an explosion! Now, as i am technicaly in a fanfic, albeit a short one, i must say un!