Proof that Akatsuki > 10 Greatest Kages of History (Actual Explanation Inside)

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i agree with all but Konan vs Third Tsuchikage the third IS stronger than konan he can fly and use jinton konan cant defent against jinton and zetesu Cannot defeat the fith kazekage garra has too much in his arsenal he can seal or burry zetsu zetsu is also to weak to get out from that but everything else is right on the dot good thread
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-1) Itachi vs Second Tsuchikage-Muu
-2) Kisame vs Second Hokage-Kisame!
-3) Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage-Mizukage
-4) Deidara vs Fourth Hokage-Minato
-5) Kakuzu vs Second Mizukage:-Kakuzu
-6) Sasori vs Third Kazekage:-Sasori becost have his power,100 puppets and 1 kazekage
-7) Zetsu vs Fifth Kazekage:Kazekage
-8) Nagato vs Third Hokage:Nagato sure!
-9) Konan vs Third Tsuchikage:Konan lose
-10)Tobi vs Third Raikage:Tobi
 

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Great thread once again, this is becoming a habit xd. You've presented great information and although I disagree with one of them you can't doubt the effort put in +rep
 

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Most seem legit fights
But Gaara vs Zetsu idk

Gaara is able to fly to get away from Zetsus space time jutsu
And the Kages were caught off guard by Sasuke which led there chakra to be drained by Zetsu
And Tobi knew this would happen, which is why he let Sasuke rampage in there for a bit
And as far as Zetsus groundbase space time ninjutsu(i say that because he seems to need to be planted against a surface) And hes in the ground to begin with hes already vunerable to Gaaras sand that is underground

The 3rd eye tech can be useful here as well
The fact that Gaara doesnt have to be on the ground makes this bad for Zetsu

I see Gaara wining low difficulty

And i dont think Konan can take on Oonoki
If she soaked herself she still have to worry about Dust release, and earth style techs
Which Oonoki is good at
 

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Great job as always +rep but i would say that tobi wouldnt be be able to beat the third raikage i havent seen him use genjutsu in a battle so he must not feel like it is strong enough to use against tougher opponents and also minato just doesnt have that one summon and im sure if he saw an opponent like that he would not take him lightly and summon ma and pa who would be able to sense the bombs with their sage ability i think
 
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You put a-lot of work into this which is awesome, but I got to disagree with you on some things.

Itachi vs Second Tsuchikage - Agree Itachi wins.

Kisame vs Second Hokage - Disagree. Your evaluating Tobirama by his Part I zombie feats, when like Hashirama he'll end up a-lot stronger than that in Part II. I doubt we'd see Kisame beat a Hokage who has some powerful space-time jutsu and Edo Tensei. Also I'd expect Tobirama's suiton ninjutsu is better than what he showed as a zombie.

Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage - Disagree. Mei is tier above Hidan. Mei might not be the best at CQC, but she can prevent Hidan from closing in on her with demonic mist and futton. Knowing Hidan he'd probably charge after her into the mist only to get melted by futton.

Deidara vs Fourth Hokage - Disagree. Minato is 2 tiers above Deidara. We've seen Sasuke throw Shuriken up to Deidara's range so Minato can do the same with flying thunder god kunai, so that is not an issue. Also unless Deidara starts in the air he's probably going to get flash blitz'd long before he can take flight. Minato wins with ease.

Kakuzu vs Second Mizukage - Disagree. Nindaime Mizukage is a tier above Kakuzu. Kakuzu doesn't have his doton skin activated at all times, he only activates it to intercept an attack. Mizukage's genjutsu will prevent Kakuzu from knowing when a real attack is coming and he won't know to activate doton skin. Mizukage trolls him with Joki Boi and Clam combo.

Sasori vs Third Kazekage - Agree. Sasori already beat him in the manga cannon.

Zetsu vs Fifth Kazekage - Disagree. Gaara is several tiers above Zetsu. Zetsu would be crushed by gourd sand and defeated before he even got a chance to use spores. Kishi depicts Zetsu as a scout, who is not good at direct combat, there is no way he wants us to believe that Zetsu can beat a Kage of Gaara's stature.

Konan vs Third Tsuchikage - Disagree. Onoki is several tiers above Konan. None of Konan's jutsu are going to land on the guy who proved to be as fast as Deidara in flight speed. Onoki has been shown to create more clones than Konan, Anime filler feats don't count. Jinton takes some time to charge, but once it's released the jutsu expands at great speed, enough so that Madara had difficulty dodging it's larger variants. Konan gets atomized by Jinton.

Nagato vs Third Hokage - Disagree. Your using Part I Old Hiruzen's feats, which is not an apt comparison for a Prime Hiruzen who will be power scaled accordingly in Part II. Both Nagato and Prime Hiruzen are top tier ninja so the battle would depend on circumstance (Knowledge and Plot). We don't know Hiruzen's degree of knowledge on Nagato/Rinnegan or visa versa and we don't know how this battle would be written into the plot, so it could go ether way.

Tobi vs Third Raikage - Agree, Tobi wins.

Side note how can you have the top 10 strongest Kages without Hashirama Senju?
 
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Lol thanks guys for the postive feedback

Yeah i know the Zetsu and Konan match ups are a bit of a stretch, but the stronger ninja doesn't always win

Plus Konan and Zetsu (Black Zetsu), pretty intelligent

Deidara can win against Minato but in my opinon its 6/4 odds with Minato winning 6 times out of 10, no scratch that after Deidara's first win he'll figure him out
 

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As always your threads are a pleasure to read,you back yourself up with facts unlike most of the people out there.

Now for the match ups I can agree up to a point,but I think you're underestimating some of the kages.

-1) Itachi vs Second Tsuchikage - I agree that the 2nd Tsuchikage can't defeat Itachi,throughout the manga it was proven multiple times that Itachi is a pretty strong shinobi.Muu could use his splitting technique for amaterasu,but when it comes to susanoó I'm afraid he has no way of countering that.

-2) Kisame vs Second Hokage - There isn't enough info about the 2nd Hokage,but Kisame (with samehada) has chakra levels close to a tailed beast and I doubt the 2nd can do much against him.

-3) Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage - I think you're seriously underestimating Mei as she has some pretty badass jutsu's.Hidan's weakness here is that he's a close range shinobi,where Mei has plenty of mid range justsu's like lava release and that acid mist jutsu.If Hidan can't land a hit on her in time,he's most likely gonna be melted by the mist.

-4) Deidara vs Fourth Hokage - This can go either way.The only way Deidara can win is if he uses the C4 jutsu,but Minato has FTG,so if he manages to land a seal on him( like he did in his fight versus Tobi )before the C4 jutsu is ready,Minato will more than likely end up victorious.

-5) Kakuzu vs Second Mizukage - This definitely goes to kakuzu,he has fought hashirama and lived,plus he's shown intelligence on par with Shikamaru,so I don't see the 2nd Mizukage winning this one.He can also combine his elements for powerful combo attacks with which he can bomb the Mizukage from multiple directions.

-6) Sasori vs Third Kazekage - Sasori has beaten him before.

-7) Zetsu vs Fifth Kazekage - You're underestimating Gaara.He may be young,but he can put up a pretty good fight against Zetsu.The spores could probably be countered by Gaara's sand armour ( the one that covers his entire body,not the shield that automatically protects him ).If so then Gaara will most likely win.

-8) Nagato vs Third Hokage - Hiruzen even in his old age was pretty fast,Nagato lacks mobility.This one's a draw since Hiruzen will need to sacrifice his soul to seal Nagato with the Death Reaper seal.

-9) Konan vs Third Tsuchikage - Onoki will most likely win.There is a huge battle experience gap in his favour .

-10)Tobi vs Third Raikage - I can't decide on this.Probably a draw.
 
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i agree with you on some but then i disagree on others like

Onoki could beat Konan

Garaa could beat Zetsu

and a few others but still GOOD WORK!!! :D
 

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I see hiruzen having a good chance at winning. Only due to the fact that he had mastery in all forms of shinobi combat. He had excellent taijutsu even though he was handicapped, good ninjutsu, and knew genjutsu as well which is one of pains weakness's. Along with emna to back him up and with prime he has his speed and stamina back.
 

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WTHOmg...this thread is incredibly impressive it must of took you hour's to finish this I don't even know where to begin when it comes to these debates.
 

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Awesome thread as usual, I would rep you if I didn't have to spread lol.

WHile I definitely don't agree on all the accounts of the 10 fights by any means, it's a good thread man. A for effort(of course)
 

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Great Huge Thread and a lot of time/effort went in!. I just want to say that I need time to analyze this but there are a few things I think can turn out differently!

For instance Deidra vs 4th Hokage! Not going to be easy since Deidra is Clumsy and a showoff! 4th Hokage was a genius and deidra wasn't able to get Kakashi (4th was his teacher)

But others are very much tempting :).... You are right in a lot of examples. I wonder what will happen if all 10 are fighting against the 10 hokage's! I think if all 10 akatsuki are in a battle ground! no one might stand a chance lol (together)
 

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well i disagree with yondaime vs. deidara i mean therotically deidara is stronger but he didn't even stand a chance against sasuske i don't think he would stand a chance against minato who was a genius that would see trhough deidaras techniques easily (deidara ins't so smart and he get's angry fast) and i doubt kisame would be able to do anything against tobiramas s/t jutsu kisame losed to gai so i doubt he would win over tobirama... but as always good job ! +rep xd
 
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