Proof that Akatsuki > 10 Greatest Kages of History (Actual Explanation Inside)

[Ryuzaki Kaguya]

the tobirama vs kisame is one in my opinon can go either way, also i dont belive the deidara fight would end in his victory and it would surprise me if it did

 

[Negative Knight]

the tobirama vs kisame is one in my opinon can go either way, also i dont belive the deidara fight would end in his victory and it would surprise me if it did

Lol yeah man i really agree and disagree with you there

Agree with the Kisame fight

But Deidara could win for a few reasons

-Minato lacks doijutsu like the Sharingan so he won't see the C4 Microscopic attack

-Clay mines on the floor means he can't move on the ground

- Tracker bombs then following him so he can't stop for even a second

-Eventually if Minato gets hit, he'll go crashing down to the mines and explode along with them.

By the way what do you think of the Konan and Zetsu fights ?

 

[Ryuzaki Kaguya]

Lol yeah man i really agree and disagree with you there

Agree with the Kisame fight

But Deidara could win for a few reasons

-Minato lacks doijutsu like the Sharingan so he won't see the C4 Microscopic attack

-Clay mines on the floor means he can't move on the ground

- Tracker bombs then following him so he can't stop for even a second

-Eventually if Minato gets hit, he'll go crashing down to the mines and explode along with them.

By the way what do you think of the Konan and Zetsu fights ?

true i admit my wrongness haha, im with your theory 100% on the other fights bro great job on explaining

 

[GrimReaperoftheHiddenLeaf]

thats akatsuki mahn... they can win especially when there is the legendary rinnegan, most blessed sharingan, two immortals , one explosive kid, a shark guy, best puppeteer ,s/t champ, paper gal and a moving recorder

Paper gal and a moving recorder? Lmfao :rofl:

Neg knight, u mispelled Amaterasu, forgot water element in nagato vs hiruzen, and the actual name for "C4 miniature clay bombs" is "C4 karura"

Other than those flaws, ur all good man, +rep

 

[Negative Knight]

true i admit my wrongness haha, im with your theory 100% on the other fights bro great job on explaining

Nah you ain't wrong bro, i really value your opinion

Honestly i agree with you in thinking Minato would 7 times out of 10

 

[Ryuzaki Kaguya]

Nah you ain't wrong bro, i really value your opinion

Honestly i agree with you in thinking Minato would 7 times out of 10

:ice: continue being awesome

 

[SasukexNeji]

Sorry dude, I just don't care enough. Great effort though! +rep

 

[kaka96]

WTF O_O

All I have to say is that according to your matchups, it seems to mostly work, but thing is that in a 10vs10 brawl, it's hard to guess who will face who

 

[hatake89]

+ rep... man i agree with all of them

 

[Dark Artist]

one of the best threads ever in the internet based on naruto

even though i agree 50% about what u said

great work

+ Rep

 

[King Cobra]

Yea the akatsuki for the win you backed everything up +rep man I agree

 

[Korra.]

I say a draw half the kages win and half of Akatsuki wins xd

 

[Third Sage]

Thank you for this analysis, it was very interesting reading it. You have surely put in some effort there but there's one thing I must disagree with. I'm a bit of a Minato fan and I just can't see how he can't dodge Deidara's clay explosives. FTG is one of the fastest techniques in the series and imo, Minato can easily evade each and every one of Deidara's attacks. But that's my opinion, so I can be wrong.

Brilliant thread.

 

[Higekage]

It's all just based on matchups. Like you did Tobi vs 3rd Raikage when if it was Tobi vs Minato it's a win for that team. If 3rd Raikage fights Deidara it's another win for team Kage. So it really was kind of a waste. But good effort so i'll +rep you for the detail you put into this.

It's the point.. It's supposed to be bad matchups just to prove that akatsuki could possibly take down the strongest kage

A 10 vs 10 skirmish we're not able to calculate. Trying to make something decent out of it is silly and just something Kishi could do.

 

[roflcopter11]

Lol this is ****ing stupid. 3rd raikage would dominate all of the akatsuki xcept for tobi and maybe nagato. I mean really come on...

 

[svladcjelli42]

Great OP. I would only quibble with Hidan beating Mei (liquid Hidan may not be dead, but he's not about to kick anyone's ass either) and with Zetsu beating Gaara (you seem to be granting Zetsu the Gedo Mazo/Bijuu chakra required to make the massive number of clones, which I don't consider to be part of Zetsu's power).

 

[DeViliShChild]

My Opinion on who wins the chosen match ups

1) Itachi Wins: Itachi has shown great feats of speed allowing him to avoid Muu's dangerous technique of Jinton. Muu would do the same with Amarestu meaning neither destructive attack would land successfully. Itachi's susanno possessing the forbidden weapons, the totsuka sword and Yata mirror means Jinton can be deflect (maintain Itachi's Susanno) and one successful hit of either Amarestu or the totsuka sword ends the fight for Muu.

Itachi sharingan is also able to see his chakra when he is invincible so his threat of a sneak attack is eliminated by this ability of the sharingan

Itachi also has his trump card of his amazing genjutsu capabilities to use as another method to immobilize and kill Muu.

2) Kisame Wins: His unique ability of sucking out the opponent's chakra is not to be ignored, restoring his own strength whilst exhuasting the opponent, creates a gap which gets ever larger between himself and Tobirama meaning that his performance decreases as the fight goes on meaning unless he finds some sort of method to end the fight quickly then Kisame will inevitably win.

His Shark Transformation is also something to be feared as Tobirama's own water ninjutsu is taken advantage of by Kisame as he can move much more quickly and absorb Tobirama by simply touching him.

Finally Kisame's trump card of the Great Shark water bullet is too much for Tobirama to counter and if used effectively (like we saw against guy except his attack was a Taijutsu tech) then he could make his finisher become infinitely stronger and potentially becoming a one hit K.O move.

3) Kakuzu Wins: The odds being stacked against the Second Mizukage in terms of it being 5 vs 1, the elemental advantage being in Kakuzu's favour e.g. Large Scale Fire and Lightning techniques. Kakuzu's Diamond defense means that he is immune to taijutsu and almost immunity to his Steaming Danger Tyranny technique.

Kakuzu having 5 allies means that he has a plausible counter to the Mizukage's Genjutsu

Kakuzu's Final Trump card of large scale elemental techniques combined with his Earth Grudge Fear transformation means that the Second Mizukage's Hozuki technique becomes a disadvantage if anything especially considering Kakuzu's lightning paralyzes him in his liquid state and large scale fire techniques dehydrate the Second Mizukage fatiguing him much quicker meaning as with Kisame a long drawn out battle means a inevitable loss for the Mizukage.

4) Sasori Wins: due to the fatality of Sasori's fighting style it is close to impossible for the Third Kazekage to evade/dodge every single attack. Also due to Sasori's poison he would have to be on a massive defensive giving him little to no opportunity to attack.

Sasori's constant change of fighting style is also problematic for the Third Kazekage making it difficult for him to win as having to adapt to several different fighting styles in a battle situation can prove to be impossible to most ninja.im

5)Deidara loses
Due to the nature of Deidara's fighting style he is a perfect match up to defeat Minato due to his C4: Microscopic bombs.

However Minato's FTG technique can be used to lead his own bombs into him, destroying his C2 Dragon and leading him on his own C2 Clay mines. His layout of very problematic if Minato (which he will) he can lure the tracking bombs near deidara, use a FTG kunai to "go through" Deidara and allow the bombs to explode on him.

Deidara's dragon being made of explosive clay gets caught in the resultant blast making it even more catastrophic, whilst damage and falling to the ground there is a very high chance he would hit into the clay mines on the floor finishing him off without using any of his own offensive techniques.

Also Deidara's arrogant nature could give the win to Minato if he doesn't
correctly estimate his power.

6) Hidan wins: With no attacks able to kill Hidan, her taijutsu paling in comparison to that of Hidan means she is unable to decapitate him.

Without no knowledge Mei would surely be on less of a guard then she should be and the nature of his triple scythe means it is the perfect weapon to draw blood.

Mei would underestimate her opponent due to no knowledge of his powers meaning his fighting style is a Jinton concealed in ordinary Taijutsu attacks.

7) Zetsu Wins: with his Mayfly technique he is able to anywhere on the terrain at any given moment, used in conjunction with splitting from Black Zetsu means the two of them are able disorientate Gaara and distract
him giving apt opportunity to use his Chakra draining spore technique.

Also overwhelming Gaara with white zetsu clones who are fairly proficient in combat means that his attention would be very split and he would no longer have time to notice the original white Zetsu.

Finally Zetsu can activate the spores to first restrain Gaara and because he isn't a physical fighter he struggles for a extended period of time whilst his chakra is sapped from his body, the remaining white Zetsu clones can bind to him in this time and create a weaker army of Gaara, a battalion of basic sand users. This means in the event that he breaks out then they can counter his weakened sand attacks and overwhelm him because of the sheer number of them.

8) Konan Draws/Onoki Wins
Unable to beat Onoki by normal means Konan gets suicidal and swarms with her Explosive paper clones determined to kill him. The all explode simultanouesly including Konan who is restraining him, causing them both to die.

Konan used this method on Tobi to kill him but he sucked in the majority of the explosion only losing his arm and half of his mask.

9) Nagato Draws
Hiruzen wouldn't allow himself to lose, so the Reaper Death Seal kills both him and Nagato after a heated and pretty equal battle.


10) Undecided - Tobi

1. I agree Itachi wins, and depending on how it goes, it could range from low-high difficulty. Tsukuyomi + totsuka would be instant victory, but if that doesn't happen then it would be a hard battle testing itachi's stamina but he would win.

2.Kisame does indeed win hands down. His shark attack and absorbing ability would be too much for many shinobi. and as i've said before the second hokage would never use edo (even if he mastered it, he made it forbidden) and we have no clue how powerful his s/t is, except for it is weaker then tobi + 4th hokage and more likely would be on the level of Kakashi's.

3. Second miaukage wins . Clam genjutsu + his exploding clone would beat kakuzu. First, i think the oil + water would act as a neutralizer for lighting, but even if it doesn't that clone is WAYYYYY to fast for his attacks to hit it. Thats without the clam confusing kakuzu where the hell it truly is.

4. I don't even think this battle should be in here, due to the fact that sasori already beat him. Shhould be replaced with someone else, (only two left would be tsunade or danzo, and i would pick danzo to be on my team)
Danzo vs sasori would be automatically danzo. Sharingan to predict movements of puppets which avoids a lot of hits to begin with, and if he ever gets hit izangai a bunch.


5. Agreed, minato wins this handily. Throws a kunai, marks the clay and rasengans. (may be a clay clone, but would also be marked in case because thats how minato works) Next time he tries to use that clay minato teleports.
Also, any HUGE explosion minato will warp it somewhere else (C4 or suicide) OR he will just run away for a few minutes.

6. Hidan Loses Mei uses Hidden mist technique and then spits lava on him to harden and stop his tracks. Follows up with melting mist. She then realizes hes not dying, so she just turns the acidity up to 100% melting his skin, and eventually his bones.
Alternative: instead of melting, uses water bullets to slice off head. ( like the second mizukage did)

(shes not a taijutsu fighter so she knows how to dodge some clumsy attacks long enough to actually hit him)


7. You gave zetsu the worst opponent for him. Gaara is a master of fighting and sensing multiple opponents at once. Even 2v1, it has shown white zetsu is weak as hell! Also if zetsu ever tried to jump on him and suck his chakara he could just shed his sand armor instantly . Lastly, i cannot see zetsu ever getting close to him while he is flying. so Gaara gets this one.


8. You give her WAY to much credit, Konan loses easily. if she ever tries to send tons of paper bombs at him, he would just jinton them and they are destroyed at a partical level. Plus don't forget how freakin fast Ooniki is he could dodge that easily.

9. Nagato wins. Hiruzen could NEVER get close enough to use the reaper death seal. Nagato simply pushes away. I do think that Hiruzen's monkey poll could prevent him from getting sucked up into CT (preventing a one hit KO and making it an actual battle). I think the push/pull, animals, and the fact he can absorb ninjutsu, would make it too much for hirzune prime



10. Tobi wins. Warps him into another dimension. Tobi comes back. Tobi won.


So this leaves the following left in battle
AKatsuki
Itachi
Kisame
Nagato
Tobi


Kages
Second Mizukage
Minato
Mei
Gaara
Ooniki

(this takes out sasori because of the whole third kazakage not being a proper opponent for him)(also takes out the fact danzo could be on kages side)

 

[soulreaper11]

akatsuki win nagato,tobi,itachi,kisame is enough

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Rep +1 bro ,but Tobirama would own Kisame.Edo Tensai+S/T Techs =Overkill

 

[icedonkey]

wow this is really good, I don't agree with everything (Kisame vs 2nd hokage I think 2nd would win, Nagato vs 3rd Hokage I think Nagato would win and zetsu vs gaara, as Zetsu has been stated as not being the "front line type") but it's really interesting
and the perfect matchups.