[Proof] Sasuke may be right.

Glad Of War

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This is a kids story, kishi won't wasted 20 characters just to make it look like reality as an example (in only one aspect). In manga there's only one hashi/naruto, but in reality there are millions of them. In manga population is like millions(99.99% nameless), in reality there is 7 billion

God of shinobi is a title of how violent he is, not what a great leader he is, so that is irrelevant. Whether he failed to create a good system or he follow a failed system is not that difference. If he's for the world sake, what he needed to create is not a konoha but rather to be the leader who protect all villages. If you think that's dictating, then perhaps he should've stopped dreaming about being hokage.(he wants world peace, but I'm not talking about wishful thinking here, I'm talking about actual action).

You deflect all by saying few rare events. The ninja world or the whole nv have nothing but problems.kids go to school to learn to use kunai and ninjutsu for what? Hurt people. Since part 1 naruto telling about being hokage and to make everyone knowledge him because of what?? He's a jin-and suffer due to failed system. Kakashi had such a sad life, why?? Ninja world system. Gaara same thing. The whole akatsuki are like nagato/obito/itachi, normal people won't go nuts, what does that tell you?? Ninja world failed. Why Zabuto and haku killing people?? Ninja world made them killing machines. And there's a lot more for all 693 chapters. Why we expecting more action? Because ninja world is a very violent world, and those characters been training very hard and getting spoonfed powerup for what?? To hurt and to kill people

The manga made no real changes and resolution to the problem the previous generation created. However you assume the laws and rules are different now, that what happened in the past will not repeat again because you trust in naruto's words. The whole manga been focusing the aftermath of a war. It doesn't mean its all good now just because world war 3 doesn't happen the next day world war 2 ended.
Agreed.
Hashirama was an amazing leader no doubt.
But he should be partly blame for the corrupt Ninja system.
Why did he forcefully capture the Tail Beasts & shared it among the nations?
Why didn't he just befriend them like Naruto?
Why didn't he kill Madara intially when he had the chance..
Mostly of his decisions were clouded by his emotions.
Anyway Hashirama was beast of a character.
He should be credited for creating the Leaf village & Ninja system.
 

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nope, the reason theres war is not because of different opinion. That's way too simplistic way to say it. To make it simple, you can stop war if you can stop death(which is too far to have anything to do with opinion)
What causes wars then, if not for a disagreement of views?

My bolds were facts both from real world and manga, don't see what opinion you saying in your opinion. The manga already told you there are problems everywhere, genocide is just one of them in one form. What I'm saying is not only genocide, but I include all the reasons those ninja been fighting for. And apparently there are sufficient problems big and small alike for them ninjas to cry and fight about. My "robbery quote" is just an example of real life as ninja world hatred is given as well
So what other "few crimes" are there that the manga is not showing that you believe are happening?

It was a quick quote, in no way I'm blaming entire human race on two people or the same person(ashura). I'm criticizing the ninja world and whoever support its way
So the thing is, you're dumping all the bad on the ninja world and ignoring any good that happened and believe that a total overhaul is needed because of the bad. No one is supporting the bad, but a total overhaul isn't needed. It's like totaling a car because the windshield has bird poop on it. None of the characters have condone any of the events that were bad and are trying to prevent those, yet one approach wants to destroy everything and start over, while the other is trying to fix the problem and move on.
Just because their chakras are connected to naruto now, doesn't mean they will stay connected forever nor they all agree with him 100% and will be friends forever. Being optimistic is good, but failed to acknowledge the failure will only let the history repeat itself
When did people fail to understand their past? None of the ninja fail to understand the past, they just are not allowing it to dictate their future. Optimism is good, but narcissism is worse, and it seems you are applying narcissism to most aspects as if the worst case scenario can and will happen because there is a possibility for it to happen, even if that possibility is smaller than the others.

My world war 2 and 3 is a parable. Again~just because my house has not collapsed today doesn't mean my house is durable and safe to live in(using a different parable)
Yes and? Just because there is a possibility for something to happen doesn't mean it will happen? Does your house have meteor insurance, because a meteor is possible to land anywhere....irc.

No, in my example sasuke is not the psycho kid. The psycho kid is the war/genocide/caged jin/slavery/discrimination.. etc.. the police and school are the SA and the kages. The school rules are the ninja system.

The school failed at either two things or both

1. Regulate good rules that enable kids to learn and grow up healthy mentally

2. Enforce the rules with zero tolerance
Then who is Sasuke in your example? Since the "psycho kid" is the one fighting the majority, and is the product of the system. The weapon the "psycho kid" uses would be akin to the bijuu.

Also how is it the schools fault for a "psycho kid"? Surely not everyone else is like that, so why is the extreme case suppose to represent a core problem when not everyone is like that. Sure the system may be flawed so that someone like that is "made", but not everyone came out like that, so clearly the system/school isn't directly related to the cause/problem.
 

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So what other "few crimes" are there that the manga is not showing that you believe are happening?
Everything that noted and spoken throughout the manga. If you believe that's only a few small problems, then there's no need to war nor fight in the first place. Even if they really are small problems. They would accumulate and lead to same result


So the thing is, you're dumping all the bad on the ninja world and ignoring any good that happened and believe that a total overhaul is needed because of the bad. No one is supporting the bad, but a total overhaul isn't needed. It's like totaling a car because the windshield has bird poop on it. None of the characters have condone any of the events that were bad and are trying to prevent those, yet one approach wants to destroy everything and start over, while the other is trying to fix the problem and move on.
You looking at the problems only the birds poop on the windshield of a car. If its true, then there's no need for the owner to be spending thousands of dollars to pay the mechanic and after 1 months still in the shop

When did people fail to understand their past? None of the ninja fail to understand the past, they just are not allowing it to dictate their future. Optimism is good, but narcissism is worse, and it seems you are applying narcissism to most aspects as if the worst case scenario can and will happen because there is a possibility for it to happen, even if that possibility is smaller than the others.
It's one thing to "know the history", its a complete different story to understand it. My focus is the ninja system. *If something is wrong, worst case scenario will happen in time. Any random situations may require a higher count than a human's lifespan. But when you look at the lifespan of a society and the number of people in it, you will be surprised of all the "worst case scenarios"

Yes and? Just because there is a possibility for something to happen doesn't mean it will happen? Does your house have meteor insurance, because a meteor is possible to land anywhere....irc.
Very possible when my house is built in a place that frequently getting meteor rained on which destroyed many house and the government didn't do anything to prevent it to happen again


Then who is Sasuke in your example? Since the "psycho kid" is the one fighting the majority, and is the product of the system. The weapon the "psycho kid" uses would be akin to the bijuu.
Sasuke is the candidate for the school shooting prevention and appears to be the only one(his way may not be perfect)

Also how is it the schools fault for a "psycho kid"? Surely not everyone else is like that, so why is the extreme case suppose to represent a core problem when not everyone is like that. Sure the system may be flawed so that someone like that is "made", but not everyone came out like that, so clearly the system/school isn't directly related to the cause/problem.
There has been lot of school shooting these years and many kids got killed in school, so this is not the problem to be ignored. Kids have a nature to ridiculate, victimize and bully the less popular kid. The school is a place to educate the kids and condemn these unacceptable behaviors(yes all teachers aware of the problems but done little about it). So when there's a psycho kid, basically everyone from the school holds a responsibility to that
 

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In the shinobi world....chakra is the programming language...so by that logic tailed beast (masses of chakra) are like syntax. Without syntax u can't program shit. Try again bruh.
 
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