Proof of human existence 2.8 million years ago

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What do you think about this? This means that humans have existed for 400,000 more years than we have thought, not the ape like men that we claim to be descendent from, but the first homo sapiens, the first men.

2.8-million-year-old jawbone found in Ethiopia came from our ancestors

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By The Associated PressMar 05, 2015

A fragment of jawbone found in Ethiopia is the oldest known fossil from an evolutionary tree branch that eventually led to modern humans, scientists say.

The fossil comes from very close to the time that our branch split away from more ape-like ancestors best known for the fossil skeleton Lucy. So it gives a rare glimpse of what very early members of our branch looked like.

At about 2.8 million years old, the partial jawbone pushes back the fossil record by at least 400,000 years for our branch, which scientists call Homo.

It was found two years ago at a site not far from where Lucy was unearthed. Africa is a hotbed for human ancestor fossils, and scientists from Arizona State University have worked for years at the site in northeast Ethiopia, trying to find fossils from the dimly understood period when the Homo genus, or group, arose.

Our species, called Homo sapiens, is the only surviving member of this group.

The jaw fragment, which includes five teeth, was discovered in pieces one morning by Chalachew Seyoum, an Ethiopian graduate student at Arizona State. He said he spotted a tooth poking out of the ground while looking for fossils.

The discovery is described in a paper released Wednesday by the journal Science.

Arizona State's William Kimbel, an author of the paper, said it's not clear whether the fossil came from a known early species of Homo or whether it reveals a new one. Field work is continuing to look for more fossils at the site, said another author, Brian Villmoare of the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

Analysis indicates the jaw fossil came from one of the earliest populations of Homo, and its age helps narrow the range of possibilities for when the first Homo species appeared, Kimbel said. The fossil dates to as little as 200,000 years after the last known fossil from Lucy's species.

The fossil is from the left lower jaw of an adult. It combines ancestral features, like a primitive chin shape, with some traits found in later Homo fossils, like teeth that are slimmer than the bulbous molars of Lucy's ilk.

Despite that mix, experts not involved in the paper said the researchers make a convincing case that the fossil belongs in the Homo category.

And they present good evidence that it came from a creature that was either at the origin of Homo or "within shouting distance," said Bernard Wood of George Washington University.

The find also bolsters the argument that Homo arose from Lucy's species rather than a related one, said Susan Anton of New York University.

The new paper's analysis is first-rate, but the fossil could reveal only a limited amount of information about the creature, said Eric Delson of Lehman College in New York.

"There's no head, there's no tools, and no limb bones. So we don't know if it was walking any differently from Australopithecus afarensis," which was Lucy's species, he said.

It's the first time that anything other than isolated teeth have turned up as a possible trace of Homo from before 2.3 million years ago, he said.

"This fills a gap, but it hasn't yet given us a complete skeleton. It's not Lucy," Delson said. "This is always the problem. We always want more."

Also on Wednesday, another research team reported in a paper released by the journal Nature that the lower part of the face of Homo habilis, the earliest known member of the Homo branch, was surprisingly primitive. That came from reconstruction of a broken jaw that was found 50 years ago.

The finding means the evolutionary step from the Ethiopian jaw to the jaw of Homo habilis is "not so large," said an author of the Nature study, Fred Spoor of University College London and the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.

 

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This is good information
 

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Okay that is pretty interesting
 

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Pretty damn cool. Only changes how long we've existed, not much else(I don't think).
 

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someone must of knocked him the **** out
 

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The article never stated it was Homo sapien.
 

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The article never stated it was Homo sapien.

Yeah it's a Homo but not sapien. They're thinking it something like Lucy or of that same period of time.
 

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Yeah it just pushes back the time .
 

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The article never stated it was Homo sapien.

The earliest fossils of Homo sapien that we know of dates to 180 thousand years ago. What this fossil shows is an ancestor to the genus Homo, which comprises a group of species diverging from it. So yes, this fossil is not Homo sapien, but this is still a nice nugget of evidence of an early ancestor of Homo sapien.
 

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The earliest fossils of Homo sapien that we know of dates to 180 thousand years ago. What this fossil shows is an ancestor to the genus Homo, which comprises a group of species diverging from it. So yes, this fossil is not Homo sapien, but this is still a nice nugget of evidence of an early ancestor of Homo sapien.

It's essentially Lucy but 400,000 years earlier than her.
 

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People believe In this lucy XD. Fine you people could believe whatever Idc
 

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People believe In this lucy XD. Fine you people could believe whatever Idc

All you gotta do is walk into any Science building in any major university; they have data, spreadsheets, replicas, and Ph.D professors who would be happy to assist in teaching you :)

Hell, as a graduate student, I teach Bio 101 Lab, where we teach the basics of Biology in a hands-on manner.
 

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My phone is being a pain in the ass, but I Lucy is from a species earlier than Homo, while this would give us a timeline of when the Homo species appeared.
 

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All you gotta do is walk into any Science building in any major university; they have data, spreadsheets, replicas, and Ph.D professors who would be happy to assist in teaching you :)

Hell, as a graduate student, I teach Bio 101 Lab, where we teach the basics of Biology in a hands-on manner.

Wait I did more research. Yup seems like I confused you guys with some other movie. Nvm
 

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My phone is being a pain in the ass, but I Lucy is from a species earlier than Homo, while this would give us a timeline of when the Homo species appeared.

My 2014 textbook states the genus arose 2.4 million years ago with Homo habilis, but with the new info OP provided, perhaps this information will be changed. It at least disputes the time scale. Early Homo sapiens arose 200K years ago and started to migrate out of Africa around that time.
 
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