Problems with the battle system...

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can you explain in more details plz? whenever possible, i liked what you said.
It's pretty simple. There used to be a group on this forum called "The RuleMaker's Group", they were people selected by the rest of the forum to create a set of battle rules. When the idea of using posts counts was suggested, Versuvio originally argued that he didn't like the idea because it would cause people to just start spamming to get their ranks up. But it was agreed that it was fine for short term use as a ranking system until a system was put into place that in which mission completion and testing could be preformed to increase users ranks. The whole post count thing was never a final solution and was flawed by design. We knew it and we had no intention of using it. BUT, pein87 (a member of the RuleMaker's Group) became a moderator and basically decided he didn't care what the rest of the group said, and took the temporary rule system that was created and modified it into his "Official Battle Arena Rules". Since then, the rules have just been revisions of a flawed system.

If you want to talk a functional rule system, you can put into place a structured hierarchy. Select the senior-most users on the forum and choose maybe 7 of them that have a history of disagreeing with each other to act as the members of the group. These top members would be in charge of creating challenging tests and missions for each of the ranks. Each of these people should select 2 sensei, these people would be in charge of handing out the tests and missions. Every 10 weeks the senior members will need to re-select 2 new sensei to make things fair. And once a year new senior members should be selected. At least that's one of many possible solutions.
 

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It's pretty simple. There used to be a group on this forum called "The RuleMaker's Group", they were people selected by the rest of the forum to create a set of battle rules. When the idea of using posts counts was suggested, Versuvio originally argued that he didn't like the idea because it would cause people to just start spamming to get their ranks up. But it was agreed that it was fine for short term use as a ranking system until a system was put into place that in which mission completion and testing could be preformed to increase users ranks. The whole post count thing was never a final solution and was flawed by design. We knew it and we had no intention of using it. BUT, pein87 (a member of the RuleMaker's Group) became a moderator and basically decided he didn't care what the rest of the group said, and took the temporary rule system that was created and modified it into his "Official Battle Arena Rules". Since then, the rules have just been revisions of a flawed system.

If you want to talk a functional rule system, you can put into place a structured hierarchy. Select the senior-most users on the forum and choose maybe 7 of them that have a history of disagreeing with each other to act as the members of the group. These top members would be in charge of creating challenging tests and missions for each of the ranks. Each of these people should select 2 sensei, these people would be in charge of handing out the tests and missions. Every 10 weeks the senior members will need to re-select 2 new sensei to make things fair. And once a year new senior members should be selected. At least that's one of many possible solutions.
oo that sounds really cool u should be online more to help us out with this!
 

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No. But do you think we should, if we make new rules, still have post count mean something?
well not for me:p
unless u change the posts counts even higher so that i cannot use s Rank jutsus
i have no prob wit the post counts.. but they r perfect as it is
its all that is important is that u can use the Ranks =/ not the element
 

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well not for me:p
unless u change the posts counts even higher so that i cannot use s Rank jutsus
i have no prob wit the post counts.. but they r perfect as it is
its all that is important is that u can use the Ranks =/ not the element
I think if we change the amount of posts it takes to use certain ranks of jutsus, most people would want them to be lower, not higher.
 

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I think if we change the amount of posts it takes to use certain ranks of jutsus, most people would want them to be lower, not higher.

the ones wat we have now is perfect =/
once they get 3200 posts they can use S Rank jutsus
and the higher they get, they get to learn other elements..
but the prob is that they think that u have to learn all elements to be powerful =/

plus when they reach jounin they get to learn their 3rd element =/
 
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I'm sorry Hell for disagreeing with your idea but i think the post system shouldnt really count but i like the idea about having a test to have people's rank moved up in other words even some newbie or anyone who isnt a senior can sometimes as knowledgable as some senior members in battling and about jutsu if they knew about the rules and guildlines in NB
But IF the post system doesnt count and idea of having a test for rankings i dont know how the jutsu system because its based on the number of posts
 

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I'm sorry Hell for disagreeing with your idea but i think the post system shouldnt really count but i like the idea about having a test to have people's rank moved up in other words even some newbie or anyone who isnt a senior can sometimes as knowledgable as some senior members in battling and about jutsu if they knew about the rules and guildlines in NB
But IF the post system doesnt count and idea of having a test for rankings i dont know how the jutsu system because its based on the number of posts
I think we should change the amount of months that you need to be a member in order to use types of jutsu. Because, new people are able to reach amounts of posts at least 5 times faster than the members who have been here since Octorber or before, and they just spam their way up. If there were a stricter time frame between using jutsu, such as instead of 1 month for jounin, two months. And to be a sannin and use S-ranks and choose a 4th element, you must have been a member for 4 months. And so on. That way, it will limit the spam so that people can steadily get up to that post amount in the allotted time needed instead of it being a race to the post count so that they achieve the benefits immeadiately.

Frankly, I like the post system as it is and it is just fine to me. The spamming is the problem, and if we were to change the rules, many people who worked so hard to get to where they are now would be put on the same level as people who just spammed without working for what they gained.
 

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I think we should change the amount of months that you need to be a member in order to use types of jutsu. Because, new people are able to reach amounts of posts at least 5 times faster than the members who have been here since Octorber or before, and they just spam their way up. If there were a stricter time frame between using jutsu, such as instead of 1 month for jounin, two months. And to be a sannin and use S-ranks and choose a 4th element, you must have been a member for 4 months. And so on. That way, it will limit the spam so that people can steadily get up to that post amount in the allotted time needed instead of it being a race to the post count so that they achieve the benefits immeadiately.

Frankly, I like the post system as it is and it is just fine to me. The spamming is the problem, and if we were to change the rules, many people who worked so hard to get to where they are now would be put on the same level as people who just spammed without working for what they gained.
good one and i think that the posts in the training or battle areas should only count towards your rankings
 

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If you want to talk a functional rule system, you can put into place a structured hierarchy. Select the senior-most users on the forum and choose maybe 7 of them that have a history of disagreeing with each other to act as the members of the group. These top members would be in charge of creating challenging tests and missions for each of the ranks. Each of these people should select 2 sensei, these people would be in charge of handing out the tests and missions. Every 10 weeks the senior members will need to re-select 2 new sensei to make things fair. And once a year new senior members should be selected. At least that's one of many possible solutions.
Hm, it is a bit complicated but i can see your point ^^
But i don't think we can find these 7 people at the moment.

and, since i really want your opinion, can you please tell me your suggestions about the custom jutsus and elements? in general i mean, not who gets to approve them or not.
 

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I'm sorry Hell for disagreeing with your idea but i think the post system shouldnt really count but i like the idea about having a test to have people's rank moved up in other words even some newbie or anyone who isnt a senior can sometimes as knowledgable as some senior members in battling and about jutsu if they knew about the rules and guildlines in NB
But IF the post system doesnt count and idea of having a test for rankings i dont know how the jutsu system because its based on the number of posts
wth man.. we already have trouble testin ppl for the senseiship =/ well thats tru there r some exceptions the odds of a noob wit that status is very very low. thats y i am sayin that the posts counts does not count as the persons strenght =/ for instance i have nearly 30,000 posts and i still cannot beat zanji, b.sama and madara =/
the post counts r merely there to set some levels for usin the jutsus and elements
for instance: its impossible for a noob wit less that 20 posts to use all the elements and all the jutsus =/
thats even impossible in naruto (anime/manga/ movie)
 

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good one and i think that the posts in the training or battle areas should only count towards your rankings
Maybe not in just there, but I have noticed a ridiculous amount of spam in the chatterbox forums. I say that posts in the chatterbox forums don't count, because places like Konoha Town have very meaningful threads that people can use as a fun role playing outlet. Perhaps only posts in the role playing forum should count.
 

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I think we should change the amount of months that you need to be a member in order to use types of jutsu. Because, new people are able to reach amounts of posts at least 5 times faster than the members who have been here since Octorber or before, and they just spam their way up. If there were a stricter time frame between using jutsu, such as instead of 1 month for jounin, two months. And to be a sannin and use S-ranks and choose a 4th element, you must have been a member for 4 months. And so on. That way, it will limit the spam so that people can steadily get up to that post amount in the allotted time needed instead of it being a race to the post count so that they achieve the benefits immeadiately.

Frankly, I like the post system as it is and it is just fine to me. The spamming is the problem, and if we were to change the rules, many people who worked so hard to get to where they are now would be put on the same level as people who just spammed without working for what they gained.
thats right =/
i said the same thing in my other posts
 

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Maybe not in just there, but I have noticed a ridiculous amount of spam in the chatterbox forums. I say that posts in the chatterbox forums don't count, because places like Konoha Town have very meaningful threads that people can use as a fun role playing outlet. Perhaps only posts in the role playing forum should count.
yeah i can live with that too
 

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wth man.. we already have trouble testin ppl for the senseiship =/ well thats tru there r some exceptions the odds of a noob wit that status is very very low. thats y i am sayin that the posts counts does not count as the persons strenght =/ for instance i have nearly 30,000 posts and i still cannot beat zanji, b.sama and madara =/
the post counts r merely there to set some levels for usin the jutsus and elements
for instance: its impossible for a noob wit less that 20 posts to use all the elements and all the jutsus =/
thats even impossible in naruto (anime/manga/ movie)
well like i said before a newbie can be knowledgable in battling and stuff and at times need a test or something to have their ranking up but i guess i'll support you with the number of posts for the jutsus
for example: Itachi Uchiha was pretty strong as a kid and head of the anbu at one times but i never knew about his jutsus then so i'll go with you in the number of posts to be allow to use strong jutsus
but the battle test is raise their rankings
 

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Maybe not in just there, but I have noticed a ridiculous amount of spam in the chatterbox forums. I say that posts in the chatterbox forums don't count, because places like Konoha Town have very meaningful threads that people can use as a fun role playing outlet. Perhaps only posts in the role playing forum should count.
No, dividing posts is not the solution, i don't agree.
And i don't go to forums games -often- and to Konoha town at all, yet i won Hells and Zanji ^^
I will get exiled cause i prefer visiting the anime and manga threads?
 

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well like i said before a newbie can be knowledgable in battling and stuff and at times need a test or something to have their ranking up but i guess i'll support you with the number of posts for the jutsus
for example: Itachi Uchiha was pretty strong as a kid and head of the anbu at one times but i never knew about his jutsus then so i'll go with you in the number of posts to be allow to use strong jutsus
but the battle test is raise their rankings
the battle is cool but how r we goin to do it?
=/unless they keep fighting like how i did when i first started
 

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the battle is cool but how r we goin to do it?
=/unless they keep fighting like how i did when i first started
well there is quite alot of E and D rank moves so with the battle it'll be kind like the chunin exams and the mod, admin or someone with authorities can examine their battle and see if they need how to defend or think their ways around the battle and stuff like that......i dont know if its good or not im just giving a suggestion
 
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