Prime Obito vs Naruto or Sasuke

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It doesn't matter if he doesn't keep Mangekyo activated all times in fights, what matters is that he obviously had the Mangekyo active when he tried to warp Minato (after all, he needs his MS active in order to warp him), and then he got blitzed, if "intangibility" was automatic like you claimed, it would have automatically allowed him to phase through Minato's attack. Why would he deactivate MS after getting hit ? Lmao, that is the dumbesst thing he would have done, he had no reason to deactivate it nor there is any evidence of that. What does it matter that he was a "child" ?

Maybe because we can't see his eyes due to "BZ" covering half of his face ?

You can clearly see a three panel interval between the 'blitz', Obito's hand was also under the coat and the in the next panel it was dripping 15cm from the coat [

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Then why was it deactivated in these scans though he was in a fight or middle of enemy territory or even captured? Makes no sense right? [

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Here the Kuro-Zetsu wasn't controlling him [

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[Nattana]

How does that mean anything?

For example it means, that there's a barrier that human body cannot overcome - it's called neural connections. Sasuke can speed up with chakra, he can dish out stronger attack thanks to chakra, but reaction time is something that has its limits.

Obito obivously doesn't have them.

*Sigh*.........I am talking about this.

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Sasuke warped Madara in between him and Naruto. No reaction from Madara whatsoever. He knew about the technique at this point so intel isn't an excuse. The rest refers to the stuff I'm not that focused on.

Obito gets blitzed, just how Madara did.

Lel, Madara obviously knew what was coming and he used himself as a diversion... You could clearly see exclamation marks before Naruto and Sasuke attacked him... He made them think they got him, while actually he was the one who fooled them and used Limbo to buy time for him to get his second Rinnegan back.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I'm talking about the second time, not the first time. As in where he moved Madara.

Wrong. More power=More strength. The Shinju is more power. So he got stronger.

@bold: I already replied to this nonsense. They still needed to strike, and they don't strike instantaneously. Not to mention he knew they were coming before they came, giving him more time to react to something that IS NOT INSTANT AS THEY STILL HAD TO STRIKE HIM. You can't react to instant, its literally impossible, so stop trying to say Obito reacted to something that was instantaneous in a pathetic attempt to fuel your wank.

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He also guarded his back.

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Can't kill Obito? False. After 10 minutes Obito gets killed.. All Izanagi does is prolong his life considering he still can't react to Sasuke's Rinnegan nor can he kill him without Juubidama, something Sasuke can counter with ease.

Show me a scan Madara didn't act as if his power was increased nor was it mentioned. Madara said he was immortal that's about it. Obito know Sasuke will try to go for the quick kill so it'll be just like what they did and he'll react since spawn seal is something faster than Sasuke since he still requires striking speed to hit the opponent. Spawn seal being instant here.(

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) Sasuke eye will be on it's recharge time then he gets sniped b4 it's ready again.

And where the f-ck would he get Rinnegan to implant in his arm? You f-cking halfwit, you're entering fanfiction territory if he has both. It's one or the other.

What do you mean where just like how Danzo had multiple sharingan in his arm Obito has a Rinnegan in his arm how hard is to belive you dumb shit.

 

[KidGamer65]

For example it means, that there's a barrier that human body cannot overcome - it's called neural connections. Sasuke can speed up with chakra, he can dish out stronger attack thanks to chakra, but reaction time is something that has its limits.

Ok.

Obito obivously doesn't have them.

Evidence or stop speculating. "Obviously" isn't any form of an argument.

Lel, Madara obviously knew what was coming and he used himself as a diversion... You could clearly see exclamation marks before Naruto and Sasuke attacked him... He made them think they got him, while actually he was the one who fooled them and used Limbo to buy time for him to get his second Rinnegan back.

Those exclamation marks are there because he didn't know what they were doing, hence the look of surprise when he sees them use their attacks, talking about lunging at each other, and his look of surprise when he gets hit. Madara didn't know shit.

And he switched out with his Limbo clone AFTER he was hit. Did he succeed? Yes. Does this change the fact he was blitzed? No. Unless you want to show me where he reacted.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Ok.


Evidence or stop speculating. "Obviously" isn't any form of an argument.




Those exclamation marks are there because he didn't know what they were doing, hence the look of surprise when he sees them use their attacks, talking about lunging at each other, and his look of surprise when he gets hit. Madara didn't know shit.

And he switched out with his Limbo clone AFTER he was hit. Did he succeed? Yes. Does this change the fact he was blitzed? No. Unless you want to show me where he reacted.

Now make your reply.

 

[KidGamer65]

Show me a scan Madara didn't act as if his power was increased nor was it mentioned. Madara said he was immortal that's about it. Obito know Sasuke will try to go for the quick kill so it'll be just like what they did and he'll react since spawn seal is something faster than Sasuke since he still requires striking speed to hit the opponent. Spawn seal being instant here.(x)-(x)-(x)-(x) Sasuke eye will be on it's recharge time then he gets sniped b4 it's ready again.

Don't need to. The Shinju is a source of power, absorbing it means he gets more power. Its really that simple unless you want to deny the Shinju being a source of power, then you'll just be denying manga fact.

The first scan doesn't show instantaneous movement, he still had to stab Obito to hurt him. Can't stab if you don't move.

The second scan is Goshun Mawashi. They didn't teleport to Obito, they teleported Obito in front of an attack that was already being lunged toward him. Not the same as teleporting to a marked Obito, so get that shit out of here.

The third scan is the same as the fourth scan. You need to strike to hit with Rasengan.

A scan has already been posted of Minato teleporting to Obito and slashing him. He can't slash unless he moves first.

You are pretty much regurgitating the same bullshit I replied to in the last argument, if you aren't going to post anything that hasn't been countered, then don't reply. Cause now you're just wasting my time.

Its recharge time isn't even long as he used it 3 times in the same chapter, until then he doesn't need to evade Kamui. Simply toss a PS shockwave at him if he tries to warp him away, obliterating Obito and cancelling his warp.. Not to mention Izanagi isn't happening since Obito can't react to use Kamui let alone Izanagi.

 

[Nattana]

Evidence or stop speculating. "Obviously" isn't any form of an argument.

No organs, no blood, no veins, no neural connections.

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Those exclamation marks are there because he didn't know what they were doing, hence the look of surprise when he sees them use their attacks, talking about lunging at each other, and his look of surprise when he gets hit. Madara didn't know shit.

And he switched out with his Limbo clone AFTER he was hit. Did he succeed? Yes. Does this change the fact he was blitzed? No. Unless you want to show me where he reacted.

Lol he did know. They were talking out loud about their tactics... Madara hear what they were talking about, saw them prepare their jutsu and already had (enough) knowledge on Sasuke's Rinnegan. His act was clearly planned, and about his facial expression - it still must've hurt him as hell, even though he knew what he was doing.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Don't need to. The Shinju is a source of power, absorbing it means he gets more power. Its really that simple unless you want to deny the Shinju being a source of power, then you'll just be denying manga fact.

The first scan doesn't show instantaneous movement, he still had to stab Obito to hurt him. Can't stab if you don't move.

The second scan is Goshun Mawashi. They didn't teleport to Obito, they teleported Obito in front of an attack that was already being lunged toward him. Not the same as teleporting to a marked Obito, so get that shit out of here.

The third scan is the same as the fourth scan. You need to strike to hit with Rasengan.

A scan has already been posted of Minato teleporting to Obito and slashing him. He can't slash unless he moves first.

You are pretty much regurgitating the same bullshit I replied to in the last argument, if you aren't going to post anything that hasn't been countered, then don't reply. Cause now you're just wasting my time.

Its recharge time isn't even long as he used it 3 times in the same chapter, until then he doesn't need to evade Kamui. Simply toss a PS shockwave at him if he tries to warp him away, obliterating Obito and cancelling his warp.. Not to mention Izanagi isn't happening since Obito can't react to use Kamui let alone Izanagi.

Damn denied 4 manga scans come on this is just getting out of control. So wait he's going to whip out Susanoo and swing it's sword before he's Kamui'ed Lmao your struggling here. Lol he's going to kill him before he uses Izanagi? Did you forget Izanagi works even if you dead.(

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). Try again. Sasuke Ps would get ripped apart by Obito's chakra hands that already ripped the barrier that tanked a Juubidama. Or he could use His Juubi chakra buffed Ps which would obliterate Sasuke's.

 

[KidGamer65]

No organs, no blood, no veins, no neural connections.

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Lol.

Anatomy is the same as it was before.

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Bones.

Blood.

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The more you try and prove your argument with external, scientific evidence, the harder your argument is going to fail.

Lol he did know. They were talking out loud about their tactics... Madara hear what they were talking about, saw them prepare their jutsu and already had (enough) knowledge on Sasuke's Rinnegan. His act was clearly planned, and about his facial expression - it still must've hurt him as hell, even though he knew what he was doing.

They never once mentioned that they would teleport Madara. Sasuke only said, "throw that towards me, it'll work out" Even Naruto was confused but decided to trust Sasuke anyway. So no. Madara knew nothing, nor is there any proof that he knew, and there is no proof that he reacted, seeing as your post contains nothing that would lead me to believe so. So Obito gets blitzed.

His act wasn't planned, he was surprised in the first panel he got warped, then his expression became normal since he knew he could get out of his situation. Does that change the fact he got blitzed? No.

Damn denied 4 manga scans come on this is just getting out of control.

And here we go with your repeating the same bullshit. All those scans were the same, except for Goshun Mawashi, which isn't what we are talking about here. Deny=/=Counter. You claiming I denied it with no reply=Concession.

So wait he's going to whip out Susanoo and swing it's sword before he's Kamui'ed Lmao your struggling here.

I already told you that Kamui isn't instant, and that the larger the object, the more chakra you have to build up and the longer the warp. I got no rebuttal.

he's going to kill him before he uses Izanagi? Did you forget Izanagi works even if you dead.(x).

You have to activate it first buddy. Danzo released it

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to survive since he couldn't reactivate Izanagi in time. Karin explains it as well.

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Try again. Sasuke Ps would get ripped apart by Obito's chakra hands that already ripped the barrier that tanked a Juubidama.

The barrier didn't tank a Juubidama, it sucked the force of the attack up and shot it through the roof. The same chakra arms that fodderized that barrier got slapped away by Yin and Yang Kurama. Not doing shit to Perfect Susanoo.

Or he could use His Juubi chakra buffed Ps which would obliterate Sasuke's.

Still haven't gotten any proof for this either. Concession is accepted on this point.

 

[synkross]

lol Obito can simply put them in the barrier. and nuke the shit out of them with juubi dama. also sasuke can't teleport out as he said he can only swap with things that are in his FOV.

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Naruto and sasuke are not making it out of this thing in one piece while Obito bombards them. u can see the power of a single pre-mature juubi dama.

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ye....i don't think so

 

[Nattana]

Lol.

Anatomy is the same as it was before.

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Bones.

Blood.

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The more you try and prove your argument with external, scientific evidence, the harder your argument is going to fail.

JJ Obito had no bones, no blood and no organs. Tree Madara neither. I have no idea why Kishi decided to give em all to JJ Madara, but it doesn't matter. Manga facts are manga facts - and manga facts are that Obito doesn't have human body.

They never once mentioned that they would teleport Madara. Sasuke only said, "throw that towards me, it'll work out" Even Naruto was confused but decided to trust Sasuke anyway. So no. Madara knew nothing, nor is there any proof that he knew, and there is no proof that he reacted, seeing as your post contains nothing that would lead me to believe so. So Obito gets blitzed.

His act wasn't planned, he was surprised in the first panel he got warped, then his expression became normal since he knew he could get out of his situation. Does that change the fact he got blitzed? No.

Did you just compare Naruto and Madara in terms of analytical abilities? Don't say anything else or you'll just embarras yourself.

Madara figured out Sasuke's power after he had been impaled on his sword. After hearing Naruto and Sasuke's tactics (Sasuke yells that Naruto should throw his technique towards him - lol even 2-day-old fetus would figure out what was about to happen) he was standing still doing nothing (but one page earlier he said himself he needed to get his second eye back asap), he let them prepare their jutsu, he let them finish their talks and act. It's a bit too much for a person that doesn't have any plan in their mind.

Especially, that Madara knew that with Sasuke's teleportation and shit, he couldnt've gotten away to search for his Rinnegan as easily as if when he could buy some time by fooling N&S.

 

[genii96]

Lmao. Sasuke fanboys are getting pathetic.
Juubito reacted to ftg on his body,yet sasuke's s/t is a problem? Juubito's reflexes shit on sasuke's striking speed so badly it isnt even funny.
Juubito just summons the juubi and rapes sasuke,apparently sasuke fanboys say he cant summon the juubi lol
sasuke dosent even have senjutsu,but ofcourse his d-riders will say he has despite madara clearlysaying otherwise,and sasuke never mentioning it.
Juubito's chakra arms make his susanoo look like pancake

what a joke.

Anyway,obito mkakes a bijudama tree,uses an uchiha flame barrier enhanced by juubi's chakra protecting it,and then nukes the shit out of either naruto or sasuke.

Add this to juubito's sensing which enables him easily sense the fact that sasuke is about to teleport,sasuke is a non factor

 

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Lmao. Sasuke fanboys are getting pathetic.
Juubito reacted to ftg on his body,yet sasuke's s/t is a problem? Juubito's reflexes shit on sasuke's striking speed so badly it isnt even funny.
Juubito just summons the juubi and rapes sasuke,apparently sasuke fanboys say he cant summon the juubi lol
sasuke dosent even have senjutsu,but ofcourse his d-riders will say he has despite madara clearlysaying otherwise,and sasuke never mentioning it.
Juubito's chakra arms make his susanoo look like pancake

what a joke.

Anyway,obito mkakes a bijudama tree,uses an uchiha flame barrier enhanced by juubi's chakra protecting it,and then nukes the shit out of either naruto or sasuke.

That fool Kidgamer l0l i owned him once again. In a Obito debate.

 

[genii96]

That fool Kidgamer l0l i owned him once again. In a Obito debate.

its getting pretty sad
he says a perfect juubi jin cant summon the juubi,sasuke can teleport,activate ps and slash before juubi can react. My goodness

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao. Sasuke fanboys are getting pathetic.
Juubito reacted to ftg on his body,yet sasuke's s/t is a problem? Juubito's reflexes shit on sasuke's striking speed so badly it isnt even funny.

You can't react to instant. How many times do I have to repeat myself before you morons realize that fact. Minato is slower than Sasuke, so reacting to someone slower doesn't mean shit here. Especially when Madara, faster than Obito, got his shit blitzed.

Juubito just summons the juubi and rapes sasuke,apparently sasuke fanboys say he cant summon the juubi lol

Fanfic buddy. Its pathetic that the Obito supporters have to rely on fanfic to argue their points. When you can show me a scan of him summoning the Juubi and fighting with it, then we can talk. Until then, when he summons it, it becomes the Shinju as it did in canon. It automatically evolves, as it always did, in canon.

sasuke dosent even have senjutsu,but ofcourse his d-riders will say he has despite madara clearlysaying otherwise,and sasuke never mentioning it.

He already injured Madara with the Rikudo Chakra, so its irrelevant whether or not he has Senjutsu. But hey, this is the same clown who thinks that the body of the Jin can be hurt by Ninjutsu despite manga stating OVER AND OVER AGAIN that it doesn't. SM Rasengan put a hole in his back but a KCM Enton RS didn't do shit, but hey, I guess that just means you think Rasengan>Enton+Rasengan. More reason not to take you seriously.

Juubito's chakra arms make his susanoo look like pancake

Like they did to the Kurama Avatars? Oh wait, they got slapped away. Lol, get this wank shit out of here.

Anyway,obito mkakes a bijudama tree,uses an uchiha flame barrier enhanced by juubi's chakra protecting it,and then nukes the shit out of either naruto or sasuke.

Uchiha Kaenjin? You mean the barrier with no feats? Get this bullshit out of here. They rip through the barrier as if it wasn't there, and destroy the tree, or Naruto just tanks with the Gudo Dama just how Obito did.

"Enhanced by the Juubi's chakra" isn't an argument kiddo, its about time you and YounqDebater realized this.

The most pathetic arguments always come from you guys. Can't stick to canon since they know Obito gets shitted on if you go by canon.

Add this to juubito's sensing which enables him easily sense the fact that sasuke is about to teleport,sasuke is a non factor

Just like Madara did right? Oh wait, just more shitty fanfic from the pathetic Obito supporters. When it shows any kind of noticeable chakra build up, then you can talk, until then, try not to invent shit to support your shitty argument.

Did you just compare Naruto and Madara in terms of analytical abilities? Don't say anything else or you'll just embarras yourself.

No, I didn't. You'd realize that if you actually read the post.

Madara figured out Sasuke's power after he had been impaled on his sword. After hearing Naruto and Sasuke's tactics (Sasuke yells that Naruto should throw his technique towards him - lol even 2-day-old fetus would figure out what was about to happen) he was standing still doing nothing (but one page earlier he said himself he needed to get his second eye back asap), he let them prepare their jutsu, he let them finish their talks and act. It's a bit too much for a person that doesn't have any plan in their mind.

I'm still seeing no proof that he reacted to the attack, just more nonsense. Sasuke didn't show or hint or state that he can teleport objects around. He only showed that he can swap places and that he can teleport himself. But let me guess, Madara can see into the future amirite? Lmao.

Especially, that Madara knew that with Sasuke's teleportation and shit, he couldnt've gotten away to search for his Rinnegan as easily as if when he could buy some time by fooling N&S.

And once again, no proof that he reacted. Unless you provide this, I suggest you just stop posting.

That fool Kidgamer l0l i owned him once again. In a Obito debate.

If repeating the same stuff that was already countered and slurping on Obito's wang is owning me....lmao. No wonder Kifflom shitted on you, can't debate for shit.

 

[TRE MERCER]

its getting pretty sad
he says a perfect juubi jin cant summon the juubi,sasuke can teleport,activate ps and slash before juubi can react. My goodness

Yea also my Izanagi argument pretty much killed him Lmao.

 

[synkross]

That fool Kidgamer l0l i owned him once again. In a Obito debate.

well his arguments are usually pulled out of his a*s and not backed by manga facts so ye, Lol

 

[Bronze]

Obito beats them both.

-He has the Onmyoudon, therefore possess the ability to negate Sasuke's techniques.

-Kaguya decimated Sasuke's Susanoo with Chakra arms, and Juubi's Chakra arms decimated the barrier that withstood the Juubi's Bijuu-Dama; which is leagues above Sasuke's DC. Sasuke has no factor in this battle.

-Obito nukes Naruto with Bijuu-Dama.​

 

[KidGamer65]

well his arguments are usually pulled out of his a*s and not backed by manga facts so ye, Lol

Oh look, another guy who can talk shit, instead of hopping off and posting a counter argument. FOH kid.

 

[TRE MERCER]

You can't react to instant. How many times do I have to repeat myself before you morons realize that fact. Minato is slower than Sasuke, so reacting to someone slower doesn't mean shit here. Especially when Madara, faster than Obito, got his shit blitzed.


Fanfic buddy. Its pathetic that the Obito supporters have to rely on fanfic to argue their points. When you can show me a scan of him summoning the Juubi and fighting with it, then we can talk. Until then, when he summons it, it becomes the Shinju as it did in canon. It automatically evolves, as it always did, in canon.



He already injured Madara with the Rikudo Chakra, so its irrelevant whether or not he has Senjutsu. But hey, this is the same clown who thinks that the body of the Jin can be hurt by Ninjutsu despite manga stating OVER AND OVER AGAIN that it doesn't. SM Rasengan put a hole in his back but a KCM Enton RS didn't do shit, but hey, I guess that just means you think Rasengan>Enton+Rasengan. More reason not to take you seriously.


Like they did to the Kurama Avatars? Oh wait, they got slapped away. Lol, get this wank shit out of here.




Uchiha Kaenjin? You mean the barrier with no feats? Get this bullshit out of here. They rip through the barrier as if it wasn't there, and destroy the tree, or Naruto just tanks with the Gudo Dama just how Obito did.

"Enhanced by the Juubi's chakra" isn't an argument kiddo, its about time you and YounqDebater realized this.

The most pathetic arguments always come from you guys. Can't stick to canon since they know Obito gets shitted on if you go by canon.



Just like Madara did right? Oh wait, just more shitty fanfic from the pathetic Obito supporters. When it shows any kind of noticeable chakra build up, then you can talk, until then, try not to invent shit to support your shitty argument.


No, I didn't. You'd realize that if you actually read the post.


I'm still seeing no proof that he reacted to the attack, just more nonsense. Sasuke didn't show or hint or state that he can teleport objects around. He only showed that he can swap places and that he can teleport himself. But let me guess, Madara can see into the future amirite? Lmao.


And once again, no proof that he reacted. Unless you provide this, I suggest you just stop posting.




If repeating the same stuff that was already countered and slurping on Obito's wang is owning me....lmao. No wonder Kifflom shitted on you, can't debate for shit.

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I owned you atleast you gave up instead of dragging on something you were getting destroyed at. You act as if that debate was even a serious debate plus i picked the underdog.