Prime Kakashi can Kamui Snipe while Intangible

[xxSAGExx]

It was stated in a early chapter that one MS Obito cannot use both form of Kamui at once solely due to the fact that it is the same technique applied differently.

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This means the with one eye, Obito wasn't able to warp while intangible because it the same Kamui used on his body in a different way. An analogy: deva path can't use Shinra Tensei and Basho Tenin at the same time. Why? because it's the same technique.


Since that is the only reason, then with double MS, Kakashi can use intangibily and Kamui snipe at the same time. This works because of double MS.

One eye can use intangibility and the other eye can use Kamui snipe. They don't logically interfere with each other

It's a perfect system. He can make his whole body intangible except for the eye performing Kamui snipe.

Yes he can use them both as you said but there is no sniping, Kakashi already stated that he had to be very close to use Kamui snipe since that eye was going blind

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. So regardless Kakashi would have to wait until he's right up in a person's face to use it as he had to be right there by Madara to use Kamui. Also if Kakashi is intangie and Say Sasuke used Amateraus as Kakashi tries to Kamui snipe, Kakashi would warp the Amaterasu to the other dimension which would hit his body. If Kakashi throws Kamui shuriken via PS then some one like Naruto, Minato, Tobirama, Madara, or Hashirama who uses shadow clones can have their clone take the Kamui shuriken and when a Kakashi tries to go intangible they deliver a killing blow. Of course only Naruto actually knows to do that since he actually did it to Obito with his Rasengan but you get what I mean.

Point is Kakashi can't snipe anyone long range, he needs to get up close and be able to track his opponents movements which he can't do for speedster A's speed level+. Also should point out that Kakashi doesn't know about the 5 mins limit on the intangible Kamui so for someone like Nagato, Konan, and Madara who knew about or someone who can come up with there having to be a limit, that lack of information can cost him. From what we see DMS Kakashi can't last long, he closed his eyes before Naruto and Sasuke actually beat Kaguya and he fell over after Obito left him. Obito can't stay there long so if a Kakashi can't take out his opponent in that short few minutes then he will be left defenseless plus it was Naruto who brought Obito back in the first place as a Kakashi said here

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So I see no reason to argue what he can or can't do when we know there's certain things he can't do, he has a limit for the temporary power, and in vs against Naruto since he brought Obito back he probably can sent him away.

 

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Well, I said one skill at a time, Not one eye at a time .... And besides, Sasuke doesn't need to continuously stare at his Amaterasu or Susanoo once casted unlike Kakashi or Obito who have to actively focus on their Sharingan during Kamui... that being said, no one can separately focus left and right eye on 2 different things at the same time.

Amaterasu is casted and the caster can forget about it and shift his focus to another thing.... On the other hand, Kamui requires the user to actively concentrate on his sharingan/vision... {Case Closed}

Concentration for warp not intangibility.

 

[marik]

I have proved it with logic.

You do realize when he becomes intangible he's sending parts of his body to the other dimension right?so if he sends his head to kamuiland he can't use long range snipe because his eyes aren't technically in the normal world.kamui,amaterasu,tsukoyomi etc require visualization.

 

[Senju Bean]

You do realize when he becomes intangible he's sending parts of his body to the other dimension right?so if he sends his head to kamuiland he can't use long range snipe because his eyes aren't technically in the normal world.kamui,amaterasu,tsukoyomi etc require visualization.

That is why I said he sends his whole body there except for the eye that is doing the Kamui Snipe.

 

[Senju Bean]

Can you provide a proof that he did both at the same time? ... Chances are, he casted 1 skill before the other so fast...

Well, Susanoo is a continuous jutsu. So of course he used both at the same time because he used Amateratsu while he was inside Susanoo.

 

[uzumakinaruto389]

Fanfics wil be Fanfics

s-s-s-soloed!

 

[johnaudiba]

Yes he can use them both as you said but there is no sniping, Kakashi already stated that he had to be very close to use Kamui snipe since that eye was going blind

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. So regardless Kakashi would have to wait until he's right up in a person's face to use it as he had to be right there by Madara to use Kamui. Also if Kakashi is intangie and Say Sasuke used Amateraus as Kakashi tries to Kamui snipe, Kakashi would warp the Amaterasu to the other dimension which would hit his body. If Kakashi throws Kamui shuriken via PS then some one like Naruto, Minato, Tobirama, Madara, or Hashirama who uses shadow clones can have their clone take the Kamui shuriken and when a Kakashi tries to go intangible they deliver a killing blow. Of course only Naruto actually knows to do that since he actually did it to Obito with his Rasengan but you get what I mean.

Point is Kakashi can't snipe anyone long range, he needs to get up close and be able to track his opponents movements which he can't do for speedster A's speed level+. Also should point out that Kakashi doesn't know about the 5 mins limit on the intangible Kamui so for someone like Nagato, Konan, and Madara who knew about or someone who can come up with there having to be a limit, that lack of information can cost him. From what we see DMS Kakashi can't last long, he closed his eyes before Naruto and Sasuke actually beat Kaguya and he fell over after Obito left him. Obito can't stay there long so if a Kakashi can't take out his opponent in that short few minutes then he will be left defenseless plus it was Naruto who brought Obito back in the first place as a Kakashi said here

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So I see no reason to argue what he can or can't do when we know there's certain things he can't do, he has a limit for the temporary power, and in vs against Naruto since he brought Obito back he probably can sent him away.

Arguably, Kamui and Intangibility will interfere to each other. Unlike other sharingan techs where user can cast and spam them, Kamui and Intangibility are more like channeling techs where the user must concentrate on the tech alone. These techs will stop the moment the user stops concentrating...

Since casting kamui and intangibility require left and right eye to focus and concentrate to two separate things simultaneously, that is only possible if and only if Kakashi's brain can concentrate on 2 different things at the same time which is not possible. Humans can only think 1 at a time but they can rapidly shift their attention making it look like their multi-tasking.

 

[Silver Wolf]

Yes he can, and double MS Obito would be even better since he's the original user

 

[johnaudiba]

Well, Susanoo is a continuous jutsu. So of course he used both at the same time because he used Amateratsu while he was inside Susanoo.

yes its a continuous jutsu but it doesn't require the user to keep on staring at it.. And also, he casted susanoo first then manipulated the black flames which are part of susanoo with his other eye...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Thought this was common knowledge. Obito already did it.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Arguably, Kamui and Intangibility will interfere to each other. Unlike other sharingan techs where user can cast and spam them, Kamui and Intangibility are more like channeling techs where the user must concentrate on the tech alone. These techs will stop the moment the user stops concentrating...

Since casting kamui and intangibility require left and right eye to focus and concentrate to two separate things simultaneously, that is only possible if and only if Kakashi's brain can concentrate on 2 different things at the same time which is not possible. Humans can only think 1 at a time but they can rapidly shift their attention making it look like their multi-tasking.

Oh I know that but Kakashi can snipe a jutsu that is being used on him the go intangible right after as the enemy used their jutsu to hide themselves going in close range. If a Kakashi goes intangible right after warping something then he would be hit with the jutsu. That happened with Obito being hit by things Kakashi warped before Obito goes intangible like the lightning kunai. Sure Kakashi would just go intangible but I don't see him being as adept with it like Obito who can do certain body parts while we only seen Kakashi do his whole body and he doesn't know of it's weakness which can cost him the fight.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Sfx: Bom Bom

Konan: "You cannot teleport.
I've been paying attention all these years."

Konan: (To teleport, you must first materialize.
And it takes longer to suck yourself in... Than another person or object...)

Sfx: Boof

Obito: "If I hadn't switch from flying...
...To slipping past that explosion...

It would've been bad...

Obito: (With all these explosive tags everywhere, she can attack at any moment...

Sfx: Fwooo...

I have to be careful where I materialize...)

first statement from Konan gg your opinion

teleport = wrap

Viz scan > your opinion

Soloed once again

 

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first statement from Konan gg your opinion

teleport = wrap

Viz scan > your opinion

Soloed once again

Soloed? you failed so hard if didn't even realize that Obito had fricking ONE EYE at that point, OP is talking about Dual Sharingan, using Long range warp with the left eye while using Intangibility with the right eye.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Soloed? you failed so hard if didn't even realize that Obito had fricking ONE EYE at that point, OP is talking about Dual Sharingan, using Long range warp with the left eye while using Intangibility with the right eye.

Are you blind ?

Konan: (To teleport, you must first materialize.
And it takes longer to suck yourself in... Than another person or object...)

The bold part makes it clear. He can not use Kamui warp in any way long or close range while being intangible, he need to materialize first.

If she said you need physcial contact then you would have point as long range Kamui doesn't need it, too bad Manga disproved you pathetic attempt kamui's wankers

stay mad or cry river

 

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Are you blind ?

Konan: (To teleport, you must first materialize.
And it takes longer to suck yourself in... Than another person or object...)

The bold part makes it clear. He can not use Kamui warp in any way long or close range while being intangible, he need to materialize first.

If she said you need physcial contact then you would have point as long range Kamui doesn't need it, too bad Manga disproved you pathetic attempt kamui's wankers

stay mad or cry river

Ignorance truly is bliss, "i've been paying attention to you for years" if you don't know that means you're not only ignorant but stupid as well, Konan only said what she knew, Obito only had one Kamui Sharingan, of course he would only be able to use that one ability at a time, you have nothing to disprove both eye can be used simultaneously.

Lol you calling someone a wanker when you're known butthurt hater when comes on to Kakashi/Obito, GTFO with the half assed scan.

 

[VongolaX]

Only Obito maybe, not Kakashi


Look at the Kaguya fight, he couldn't warp the ash bone technique and go intangible.

 

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Only Obito, not Kakashi


Look at the Kaguya fight, he couldn't warp the ash bone technique and go intangible.

Wouldn't that kill Naruto who he was trying to protect?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Ignorance truly is bliss, "i've been paying attention to you for years" if you don't know that means you're not only ignorant but stupid as well, Konan only said what she knew, Obito only had one Kamui Sharingan, of course he would only be able to use that one ability at a time, you have nothing to disprove both eye can be used simultaneously.

Lol you calling someone a wanker when you're known butthurt hater when comes on to Kakashi/Obito, GTFO with the half assed scan.

you are the one ignorant and in addition in denial. All right stay in denial I won't force you to accept manga.

Your fanfic in your head,I will let you enjoy it.

Only Obito maybe, not Kakashi


Look at the Kaguya fight, he couldn't warp the ash bone technique and go intangible.

Exactly and with Obito it is pure assumption as well. However Kakashi is unable to do that as manga has shown

 

[Senju Bean]

first statement from Konan gg your opinion

teleport = wrap

Viz scan > your opinion

Soloed once again

Did you not read?

Konan was right because Obito had only one MS. It's the same technique so of course he couldn't warp.


With both eyes it is different. Both can use Kamui at the same time.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Did you not read?

Konan was right because Obito had only one MS. It's the same technique so of course he couldn't warp.

With both eyes it is different. Both can use Kamui at the same time.

Yes i read it.

Manga didnt specify teleport ability as close range only. Of course it would be only used in current context but it is only assumption.

For now it hold truth as general warp so longe range included. If it was mentioned wirh physical contact necessary then i would agree as long range wrap wont need it.

Hovewer it wasnt mebtioned so kamui user can not do it. It may debatable but even kishi didnt makw him use it it that way, which show konan statement is still true.

Kamui user can not period