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Read that scan over and see what Jiraya says, note the by himself.. the thing that was unheard of is doing such a feat alone....the eyes grant that ability
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Read that scan over and see what Jiraya says, note the by himself.. the thing that was unheard of is doing such a feat alone....the eyes grant that ability
Shadow Abyss
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Now you are just getting ridiculous. As I said before Hiruzen is a famed individual and his extensive knowledge of techniques is the namesake of one of his monickers. If according to you, Jiraiya, his student and one of the closest people to him, can't confirm the veracity of it, then who can assure it is a true feat? Iruka?
By the way, Obito had already seen Minato using FTG in action before his invasion to Konoha. He used it in front of his team to save Kakashi in the first chapter of Kakashi Gaiden. He lost because Minato outsmarted him.
He mastered all five during his prime so jirga it's could be there. Your right, I used a bad example. Lets look at naruto and Kakashi. Naruto just learned that Kakashi was able to use the rasengan in pt 2, and he would have never known if Kakashi wasn't explaining chakra manipulation. Assume and Sakura still have no idea he is capable of using it. He is their sensei's but they will never know he can use that technique. That is my point.
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Show me where Hiruzen is using byakugou and I'll believe you, bro.
I mean, you're saying my logic's messed up but yet you're the one who copy-and-pasted all of your "argument".
TrollingSage
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Good point. But still comparing apples and oranges. Rasengan is only one jutsu. Kakashi doesnt use it because its not tailored for his fighting style and he has chidori. Read your own scan well "you, who were called professor for knowing and being able to use all the jutsu of the leaf". That means it was common knowledge Hiruzen knew all the techs of the leaf. If that really includes mastery over the elements, surely his student will know about it.
I know hiruzen doesn't have the byakugou, I never said he did have it. Tsunade created that Justus.
Ha, we'll let's just drop it in the plot hole categories with the rest of the unsolved contradictions of the narutoverse.
But I think Owarij explained it perfectly in a post #164. Read that, it made sense to me.
Omnipotent
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What does Tsunade creating that jutsu change? It's still a jutsu from Konoha, and Hiruzen doesn't know it.
Furthermore, he doesn't have Edo Tensei
In addition, he doesn't have Ura Shisho Fuinjutsu
Flawed thread, even without your copy-and-paste
You are either stupid or don't read the manga. Probably both. The manga says hiruzen learned all techniques in his prime. All his hype refers to his prime. Did tsunade create byukagou in hiruzens prime? You can't answer that because u don't know. But it's highly unlikely. If the technique wasn't known in his prime then he won't know it.. Use common sense man, u starting to sound trollish.
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Wow not long ago when I mention this exact arguement was I spammed with people arguing against it but
It was hashirama vs hiruzen when I said what you said just now people said no hiruzen knew all of hashiramas techs and knows how to counter them... He might know some and can counter some but not all and might not always counter properly in a fight I said ... But hiruzen fans were so sure he knew everything and can counter everything but after reading this I am sure something is wrong with the way people judge when their favourite character is involved
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Well like it or not, every Writer uses LITERARY DEVICES, and Healing yourself doesnt mean Medical Ninjutsu, Think of Naruto, healing, IS that Medical Ninjutsu.
Hashirama was established to Know Medical Ninjutsu,However, I highly doubt that Hiruzen could use it:
1. Hype doesnt Mean Fact, So it doesnt mean That he Can Use all Jutsu's, because Kishi used a literary device known As exaggeration to Portray or emphasize how a badass Hiruzen is/was
The difference is is trying to Portray is that These People were known for a fact to Know these techniques, however Hiruzen was "said" to Know how to use all Jutsu's in the leaf, Which we both know isnt true, and is exaggeration on kishi's part to Show how Strong Hiruzen was.
Literature helps
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and so is hashi tobirama and minato, doesnt make them less powerful storywise.
LegendaryAce
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Yamato and madara use his techniques and madara says they are hashiramas
So6p you don't need to know really
Stfu he clearly isn't the strongest ****ing hashirama would destroy him and so would minato both these are on two different levels then regular shinobi both have sage mode also hiruzen most definitely does not know gentle fist ONLY those with the byakugan can use gentle fist appropriately also he clearly can't use reanimation which when it's says all the jutsu in the leaf I believe it means the Jutsu that's with in the scrolls the Jutsu tobirama created and clan Jutsu is secret to clans he doesn't have the fatness for the akimichis Jutsu as that's why they are big very doubtful he knows any of the naras technique he probably can learn rasengan it would be stupid to say he couldn't because konohamaru can your over powering majorly both madara and hashirama would murder him minato would naruto and sasuke would and many others would manga changes while it goes hiruzen prime is just hype that's it there rumors hiruzen prime clearly isn't important at all