Preta Path > Totsuka [DATABOOK PROOF] !!

[Torche]

For "speed factor". Totsuka is formless; formless = weightless = instant.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Because he couldn't see it coming. If there hadn't been that smoke things would've turned out differently.

kabuto says otherwise:
Also kabuto thought that nagato had 360 vision, but itachi's kunai's could still hit him.

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don't underestimate the solo king

 

[Garfield01]

Totsuka was/is a weapon that was not initially in Itachi's susanoo, since

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), and Orochimaru doesn't have a susanoo to carry Totsuka...

Even though Orochimaru was looking for it, it could have been stored in a place in its chakra based form. By what your saying, Itachi took the blade with his susano, deactivated his susano, and the sword disappeared along with it. Therefore meaning that Itachi can grab someone with susano, deactivate it, then that person would disappear. hmm​

 

[Bantos]

kabuto says otherwise:
Also kabuto thought that nagato had 360 vision, but itachi's kunai's could still hit him.

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don't underestimate the solo king

No one ever said that his field of vision was 360. That's what byakugan has. Nagato just shares his sight with the summons and vice versa.
Kabuto even mentioned that Nagato wasn't able to move that well.

If he had been able to see Itachi he would've known Itachi is attacking.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

No one ever said that his field of vision was 360. That's what byakugan has. Nagato just shares his sight with the summons and vice versa.
Kabuto even mentioned that Nagato wasn't able to move that well.

If he had been able to see Itachi he would've known Itachi is attacking.

rinnegan can see chakra spots just like the sharingan and byakugan.

 

[Garfield01]

kabuto says otherwise:
Also kabuto thought that nagato had 360 vision, but itachi's kunai's could still hit him.

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don't underestimate the solo king

The manga scan you posted disagrees with you. It clearly says that Kabuto was in control of Nagato's body. "I couldn't dodge that". If Nagato was in control of his own body then clearly that would not be the case.​

 

[V h o]

Even though Orochimaru was looking for it, it could have been stored in a place in its chakra based form. By what your saying, Itachi took the blade with his susano, deactivated his susano, and the sword disappeared along with it. Therefore meaning that Itachi can grab someone with susano, deactivate it, then that person would disappear. hmm​

The whole back story of how Itachi got totsuka has never been addressed in the manga.

But most of what your saying is under the impression that totsuka is a regular sword, totsuka has no physical form in the beginning.

 

[Garfield01]

The whole back story of how Itachi got totsuka has never been addressed in the manga.

But most of what your saying is under the impression that totsuka is a regular sword, totsuka has no physical form in the beginning.

guess we'll never know hmm

 

[Torche]

It can't really be weightless, but is it very light, and it isn't ...instant Lol

How can it not be weightless if it has no physical form? Lol You have no basis to that claim. Both times it's been used to seal someone; it's been a one panel.

 

[Garfield01]

How can it not be weightless if it has no physical form? Lol You have no basis to that claim. Both times it's been used to seal someone; it's been a one panel.

If it has no physical form then it has got to be chakra based? Therefore meaning my OP was right...
Instant = Speed on par with FTG. Can you honestly say its instant? Or that Nagato under the impression/control of an inexpreienced Kabuto who was also controlling many other edo's couldn't react?

 

[10th]

Nagato being caught by surprise not expecting a susanoo standing behind the smokescreen + Itachi being a mary sue is what sealed him for eternity. That was really cruel by Kishimoto, even as Naruto and others live in peace Nagato is going through pain and agony of being sealed for all eternity. Also Itachi would get destroyed by any top 10 of the series, his totsuka is his only chance and very unlikely he's going to be able to surprise them like Nagato.

 

[ninjarasengan]

you know, looking at it again...

Spiritual weapon can also be interpreted as a weapon based on spiritual energy...which chakra absorption absorbs.

 

[Torche]

If it has no physical form then it has got to be chakra based? Therefore meaning my OP was right...
Instant = Speed on par with FTG. Can you honestly say its instant? Or that Nagato under the impression/control of an inexpreienced Kabuto who was also controlling many other edo's couldn't react?

@Bold: Spiritual.

Yes, I can say that. You saw my logic for claiming that. You don't have to agree, but you don't have any evidence to disprove it.

Last point is irrelevant to Totsuka's speed.

 

[Shanks]

No,totsuka is not chakra based sword.it cannot be destroyed because it has no physical form in first place. Matter cannot be destroyed..

 

[Garfield01]

@Bold: Spiritual.

Yes, I can say that. You saw my logic for claiming that. You don't have to agree, but you don't have any evidence to disprove it.

Last point is irrelevant to Totsuka's speed.

Totsuka's speed on par with FTG... lol K mate.
One panel does not necessarily means it's "instant". Other things have been one panelled and it wasn't instant. It only expresses that the object travelled at a very high speed. Such as when Asuma one panelled Hidan's head. Was that instant? Nah not really. By your logic, Itachi and his .. "instant" blade should be > anyone. and that's definitely not the case.

 

[10th]

kabuto says otherwise:
Also kabuto thought that nagato had 360 vision, but itachi's kunai's could still hit him.

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don't underestimate the solo king

Several plot holes:
1. Itachi can't see Hell realm
2. Nagato could see the kunais that took out their eyes so he knew.
3. His creatures are not alive in the first place so kunai's can't take out their vision
4. They're kunais, they could've easily dodged them and seen where they came from.

Ultimately Kishimoto had to break his own rules to allow Itachi to stand a chance against Nagato and save Naruto and Bee.

 

[Torche]

Totsuka's speed on par with FTG... lol K mate.
One panel does not necessarily means it's "instant". Other things have been one panelled and it wasn't instant. It only expresses that the object travelled at a very high speed. Such as when Asuma one panelled Hidan's head. Was that instant? Nah not really. By your logic, Itachi and his .. "instant" blade should be > anyone. and that's definitely not the case.

It's not just that one panel; it has to do with the properties of Totsuka. I know that the panel doesn't mean it's instant and is for emphasising speed, but it along with it lacking a physical form adds to my claim. Like I said, you don't have to agree with it nor do I expect everyone to.

 

[Zavage10]

It didn't help him any when toksuka came for him.

 

[Chazzi]

Preta absorbs chakra, totsuka is not chakra.

First post soloed this thread.

 

[startup97]

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