preta path can absorb hashirama's wood release

[Blaze Release]

It wasn't an argument, just my thoughts on it. You've said it wont work on any earth syle techniques because they're physical, I believe petra path would just take out the chakra from the technique an it wouldn't hold it's current form and just crumble. A good example would be tsuchikage's golem technique, I doubt it would be able to maintain it's current form if it had it's chakra removed.

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I guess nobody knows the answer to this then because we havent seen it happen in the manga.

 

[naruttebayo]

That was a meteor, it wasn't created by chakra unlike Hashirama's wood release.

yes u r right

and it looks more like summoning rather than ninjutsu .


however about wood i believe a different thing , it is not a simple ninjutsu like others , water and earth are mixed together and wood is generated by fusion , so there is chance that wood release is not direct nature transformation of chakra , i mean chakra is transformed into water and earth not in wood directly so there is a chance it can't be absorbed , but yaa opposite is also possible

putting it in one word - IDK

 

[Owarij]

Intentionally said what i did. Okay then, ill give you another example.
Can it absorb onoki's Doton Chidokaku or kakashi doton doryuuheki.



Ive come to the conclusion that preta path cannot absorb physical substances and its no wonder that its weakness is physical based attacks. Cannot see it absorbing any doton attack. Similarly cannot see it absrbing mokuton. You say hashirama's can be absorbed. So what about normal trees that grow

Kisame etc woulod be able to absorb the earth wall.. since it isn't any normal earth, it's chakra enhanced earth..
So in thhey can absorb it in the sense of just turning it back into normal earth...


It can't absorb Normal trees and word since they aren't based around chakra..

It can absorb hashirama's trees and wood because he takes Water release, And earth release, combines them and makes wood, The entire process uses chakra, For the wood to be Controlled.. He uses chakra... With no chakra then theoretically the wood would be dead and lifeless aka unable to move..


Just like if you take the chakra out of gaara's sand

what happens? he can't move it, and it isn't chakra enhanced.. It's just sand.. that will fall to the ground...

Also as to who said he has to touch the wood, not technically true... Preta path works around nagato, If the wood gets near him it will automatically die

 

[obscoral]

Kisame etc woulod be able to absorb the earth wall.. since it isn't any normal earth, it's chakra enhanced earth..
So in thhey can absorb it in the sense of just turning it back into normal earth...


It can't absorb Normal trees and word since they aren't based around chakra..

It can absorb hashirama's trees and wood because he takes Water release, And earth release, combines them and makes wood, The entire process uses chakra, For the wood to be Controlled.. He uses chakra... With no chakra then theoretically the wood would be dead and lifeless aka unable to move..


Just like if you take the chakra out of gaara's sand

what happens? he can't move it, and it isn't chakra enhanced.. It's just sand.. that will fall to the ground...

Also as to who said he has to touch the wood, not technically true... Preta path works around nagato, If the wood gets near him it will automatically die

true, but charley said it could absorb mokuton itself, not just chakra

:shrug:

 

[james the fourth]

true, but charley said it could absorb mokuton itself, not just chakra

:shrug:

xd

 

[obscoral]

xd

charley, y u so troll?

 

[Owarij]

true, but charley said it could absorb mokuton itself, not just chakra

:shrug:

...However it should be able to take the chakra out of it and just make it dead wood that he can't move

 

[naruttebayo]

umm i got it right now he can absorb any thing made of raw chakra of

like rasen shuriken , mizukage's lawa release etc , but anything made of raw material fused with chakra to have different effect like jiraiya's swamp tech. can't be absorbed .

not sure but probably

 

[obscoral]

...However it should be able to take the chakra out of it and just make it dead wood that he can't move

i cant argue the obvious

i am no fanboy/hater

 

[iSpeak]

It may sound OP but it says the Preta path is able to absorb any form of chakra. So as long as it was born from chakra, it can be absorbed. From the 5 basic elements, to advanced Nature types, to Hashirama's Yang infused wood, to even tailed beasts. Until proven otherwise that is its ability.

 

[Blaze Release]

Kisame etc woulod be able to absorb the earth wall.. since it isn't any normal earth, it's chakra enhanced earth..
So in thhey can absorb it in the sense of just turning it back into normal earth...


It can't absorb Normal trees and word since they aren't based around chakra..

It can absorb hashirama's trees and wood because he takes Water release, And earth release, combines them and makes wood, The entire process uses chakra, For the wood to be Controlled.. He uses chakra... With no chakra then theoretically the wood would be dead and lifeless aka unable to move..


Just like if you take the chakra out of gaara's sand

what happens? he can't move it, and it isn't chakra enhanced.. It's just sand.. that will fall to the ground...

Also as to who said he has to touch the wood, not technically true... Preta path works around nagato, If the wood gets near him it will automatically die

So this is basically the same theory that Rul passed and as i said i dont believe it, secondly either youve contradicted yourself or im the one confused. First you state it will only be able to absorb the chakra in the earth technique/wood and in the second you state if can absorb hashirama's trees. Unless you are stating it can absorb the chakra in hashirama's trees which takes it back to the first theory.

Anyway there are a couple of things.
Firstly jiraiya used senpu goemen;

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That technique is a combination of katon by pa frog, oil by jiraiya and fuuton by ma frog;

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Sage Art: Goemon* (仙法・五右衛門, Senpou: Goemon)
Ninjutsu, Senjutsu, No rank, Offensive, All ranges
Users: Jiraiya, Fukasaku, Shima

Fire is poured into the wind!
When filled with oil, it's Hell boiling in a pot!!

A combination Sage Art performed by Jiraiya in "Sage Mode" and the Two Great Toad Sages. After having driven the enemy into a corner (e.g. indoors or in a pit), Jiraira releases large quantities of oil, Fukasaku performs a large Katon, and Shima a large Fuuton. Within an instant, that place will be filled with oil burning at temperatures of thousands of degrees.

Databook 3, page 281

Jiraiya was then surprised that it absorbed the oil or should i say ate it;

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If your theory you state that it will only absorb the chakra of the earth technique and turn it back to normal. I understand how it can absorb the katon and fuuton, but not the oil. If the oil is also ninjutsu then it would explain how preta was able to absorb the oil aswell. But that contradicts what you said because if he is absorbing whether fire, wind or oil it absorbs the whole technique itself and not the chakra in the technique. Unless in this case it actually ate the oil which will explain why pa frog said that. He didnt absorb the oil the same way it absorbed the fire and wind, but it actually ate the oil.

So either the oil is a form of ninjutsu and preta path absorbed it like any other ninjutsu or the oil is real oil and not created by chakra and preta path ate it meaning apart from chakra based attacks it can absorb liquids. Either way it devoured the whole technique and didnt distinguish between the fuuton, katon or oil.

Mokuton is created by;

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Mokuton is created by earth and water elements. You state that if prepa path was to absorb the mokuton is would adsorb the chakra in the mokuton?. If its chakra based it should be able to absorb the whole technique (mokuton) and not distinguish between.

Either it absorbs the whole technique (doton based attacks or mouton), or whether it absorbs it or eats it. I dont believe it can just absorb the chakra in the earth technique or in the trees

 

[TrollingSage]

so its like if Preta absorbs enough chakra from a person, they will die, so if he absorbs the chakra from wood, they can no longer be manipulated



@1st paragraph: people dont consist of chakra. consists mean it makes up their mass or essence. we have oxygen and carbon dioxide in our body, but that doesnt mean it helps make up our composition

2nd paragraph: the trees are made from chakra. chakra gives them essence. therefore, if the chakra is removed, the trees lose their essence, which would cause them to wilt away.

Kisame etc woulod be able to absorb the earth wall.. since it isn't any normal earth, it's chakra enhanced earth..
So in thhey can absorb it in the sense of just turning it back into normal earth...


It can't absorb Normal trees and word since they aren't based around chakra..

It can absorb hashirama's trees and wood because he takes Water release, And earth release, combines them and makes wood, The entire process uses chakra, For the wood to be Controlled.. He uses chakra... With no chakra then theoretically the wood would be dead and lifeless aka unable to move..


Just like if you take the chakra out of gaara's sand

what happens? he can't move it, and it isn't chakra enhanced.. It's just sand.. that will fall to the ground...

Also as to who said he has to touch the wood, not technically true... Preta path works around nagato, If the wood gets near him it will automatically die

Well think about this way. The trees Hashirama created didnt die after he was sealed. Meaning once they're created, they dont depend on Hashirama's chakra to continue living. I do however believe Hashirama uses his chakra to make them move. So in theory if preta path absorbs that chakra,Hashirama should be unable to control the trees. However the trees will continue living.

 

[darthvader5666]

It would look weird as hell, but it should be able to absorb the wood release. Or at least suck the chakra out of the wood, making it useless.

 

[Daemon]

Wood is a solid object so no he can't absorb the wood itself but the chakra within the wood so Hashirama can't control then yes.

 

[Munboy]

Hashirama makes Mokuton with chakra, so it will obviously be absorbed.

 

[TheLoserKingdom]

Wood is a solid object so no he can't absorb the wood itself but the chakra within the wood so Hashirama can't control then yes.

Oil is a physical object and it was absorbed.