[Discussion] Prepare to be... mindblown! Kishi's subtle hints?

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I believe the stuff u wrote about the naruto city and the haruno symbol explains this as just a connection to sakura simply being in the same team(team 7) as naruto.

Kishi does this a lot to combine real life symbols with his manga like the MS techs and legendary items with Japanese mythos.

Good eye but really its done on purpose by kishi to basically show off that he combine more and more real life archlogical features in his manga called naruto which also happened to be the city he grew up in and apparently dressed like when he was young.


I wouldn't take this any further than that really.

I don't think this can be related to naruto's powers or future love life as kishi has shown that sakura's clan isn't related to the senju or uchiha.

Also the things u found about the similarities between sasuke/itachi and naruto basically mean there was a love triangle between them.

Also the naruto is earth and sakura being the heavens does hint they will never get together.


Other than those things I don't see what else this means.

also the symbols aren't exactly the same the line colours are inverted worth noting,

This to me also shows that sakura's strong points is in controlling her chakra well and seems to have a simular symbol to the chakra symbol on naruto's stomach when he uses more and more of the fox's chakra.

I think this could mean that naruto's next powerup will try and master the control of the fox's chakra to exceed the 5 minute timelimit they have at the moment.
 
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For your info. Kishimoto had given you the answer



Yamato said this to Sakura:

What's Important is the Strength Of The Feelings You Have For Naruto


I had to read & read, and to search for this.................................
 

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Most story (fiction novel) has one main (primary) plot with several sub-plot. Also the timeline and flow of the story has to be consistent.
In the earlier chapters, Kishi storyteller was consistent. But lately, his timeline and flow have many flaws.

I have a feeling that Kishi may have to change the direction of his story.
I may able to provide certain facts, but then it will become "Spoiler".
Maybe because his editor could told him to cut short his Naruto, maybe by 2013.
It is easy to find the clue or hint .....................
 

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You are utterly wrong. Nothing here is subtle.. Kishi isn't implying anything, you're just making a retarded thesis off of nothing. You have't touched upon the SLIGHTEST of "subtle hints" that kishi had placed throughout Naruto.
 

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It is an interesting find, but the symbol on Naruto could simply be the seal opened. Or it could mean something else, we will have to wait and see.
 

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You looked to much into this. The seal in Naruto in Bijuu Mode is the release seal to the kyuubi. Look at kushina's when she was pregnant. It's almost the same seal.

Also about the ramen thing if you listened to Jiraya. He named his character in the book after Nagato but he didn't wanna call him Nagato but he was eating ramen at the time so Naruto's really named after Ramen. It's Kish's running joke that Naruto loves ramen to much.

Also how can Saukra love Naruto when she loves Sasuke? Sakura told Naruto that she loved him and Naruto turned her down. He knew she had feels for Sasuke and he'd start to develop feelings for Hinata. This evident by when Kiba comes to the battle he teases Naruto about Hinata.

You had good foreshadowing but it could be in a different place.
 

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Ok, I know you will hate me for this, I know you will call this bullshit, I know you'll call me crazy.
That's why, I am making a call to those ones who are reasonable persons.

So, I've noticed this since Naruto in Kurama mode appeared, but I didn't said anything before just because I know some fans would jump in my head... HOWEVER, after researching a bit, I came with some back-up to my claims.

Behold! Lol. xd

As we all know, this is Naruto in Kurama mode costume.

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Now, where have we exactly seen the filled round shape?

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Ram, pam, pam...

Now, to make it a bit more clear...

Naruto Kurama mode, once again...

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Haruno symbol.

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And once again Kurama mode Naruto...

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Now, before calling me crazy or anything, let's remember some things here and there about Sakura.

As we know, at the beginning when Kishi was explaining us about chakra he shows to us that it originates from the belly area, and coincidence or not, the one to explain to Naruto is none other than Sakura.

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So basically he is saying that he inner strength comes from the belly area, the chakra. Also, later on, Kishi introduces the idea that true strength comes when you are protecting someone you care about. When Naruto fought Gaara, Sakura was the source of his strength all throughout the fight.
If you're saying to me that it's not true, let us remember this:

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You would say at this time, nah, it's coincidence! But I wonder, is it?... How comes that when Itachi puts Naruto in genjutsu, symbolistically Sakura appears exactly from his belly?

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I would say that this along with the fact that Sakura's clan symbol is on his belly seems VERY intentional to Kishi.

Also, symbolistically, Kushina's seal has a similar appearance during Naruto's birth.

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Now I know all NH fans will jump in my head, but let's face it, Kushina is similar to Sakura so for once, please, just let your hatred home and let's be rational.

Before saying it has nothing to do with it, it is a simple drawing, let's not forget this: the markings of the Sage's necklace near Naruto's throat that reminds us of Itachi's necklace and coincidentally or not, Itachi's Susano'o as well as Madara's happen to hold that necklace.

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So, what do you guys think it might mean? Around here and there, I found that Sakura's clan (?) symbol would mean something like a chinese symbol of the duality between heaven and earth and the connection between both.

Now, we know that in part 1, Iruka symbolistically called Naruto (earth) and Sakura (heaven).

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Also, funny enough... Naruto is a city, in Tokushima... Guess what symbol has? The Uzumaki symbol within the Haruno circle...

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Also, funny enough, there's this food called Narutomaki(curiously enough, resembles Ramen).

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Narutomaki (鳴門巻き/なると巻き?) or naruto (ナルト/なると?) is a type of kamaboko, or cured fish surimi produced in Japan. Each slice of naruto has a pink ( ;) ) or red ( ;) ) spiral pattern, which resembles the Naruto whirlpools ( ;) ) in the Naruto Strait between Awaji Island and Shikoku in Japan.

Oh, about the belly thing, I reminded one thing more, in his fight over Kurama's chakra, guess who was helping him and through what area this battle was held? (sorry if it sounded weird) Yes, the belly.

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Isn't funny enough that before that, in Pein arc, as his seal was broken, Naruto's Uzumaki symbol was breaking, transforming itself into a circle with that black hole inside, similar to the Haruno symbol?

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So, what do you guys think?! Coincidence or not? We know Kishi doesn't add things for nothing...

Do you know something more that could complete this enigma?

Let's discuss.

But may I remind you, be polite! Any intent for flaming will be reported to the mods!
Thank you!


IN CONCLUSION:

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Don't you find this extremely similar?
chatte....."sigh"....you read into things too much.....:sy:

the symbol on naruto's belly is created as a result of the seal called "shiki fuujin"(forgive me if the spelling is wrong)
you can also see the symbol on the inside of the contract seal that naruto swallowed.

it is just pure coincidence that haruno clan's symbol has similarities to it.

i mean,anyone on whom that seal is performed,would have the same mark as naruto....!nothing more or less!

don't try to find extra meaning for things like these.besides,i doubt even kishi remembers this.the manga chapter that shows the haruno symbol is way back from before when the manga had just started.:rolleyes:

about kushina's seal having the same appearance as naruto's during her birth,duh.... it will have the same appearance because it is the same seal-"shikki fuuijin" and it will look the same way when it's about to get opened.and sakura appearing out of naruto's belly,is just again nothing but pure coincidence,because she could have appeared out of nowhere mainly because it's a genjutsu "controlled" by itachi[keyword:controlled].i need not explain further,should i?xd

again the instance where naruto gets help from his belly,is nothing but a pure instance of the connection between naruto's seal and the tailed beast.you do know that the seal's symbol is printed on the belly,it is also the gateway to release or seal the tailed beast.if the jinchiruki has great willpower he/she can supress and probably re-seal the beast inside again.we see this attempt made by kushina herself when when tobi took away the kyuubi.it was during the last minutes before her death,when she helped out minato.i am too lazy to fetch the manga pages,so please do it yourself.;)

the so called help that naruto got from his belly,happened after he had finished talking with kushina,and his willpower and determination was at max.get my point?.the chains thing,i believe is a common phenomena that happens in jinchiruki when he/she has great willpower and it is also a representation of the control the particular seal possesses over the tailed beast,meaning when a tailed beast is inside a jinchruki,the particular seal of the jinchiruki has the power to suppress it or perhaps re-seal it depending on the willpower of the host.i know it's complicated,but i'm sure you will understand!xd

so when i saw that you were linking this "chain stuff" with the symbol,and the fact you added picture of sakura explaining that chakra is moulded in the stomach and when i saw you trying hard to link it with your theory,i couldn't help but have a laugh!xd


i have read many threads you have posted,and i agree with most of them except for a few like sakura getting the bringer of darkness,and stuff.trust me chatte,you have my respect,but you have to avoid making far-fetched theories about sakura.it'll only make her look bad.:shrug:

despite the fact that yours is a far-fetched and pointelss theory,you certainly put a great effort into this thread and it was nice reading it.kudos for that!;)






 
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You looked to much into this. The seal in Naruto in Bijuu Mode is the release seal to the kyuubi. Look at kushina's when she was pregnant. It's almost the same seal.

Also about the ramen thing if you listened to Jiraya. He named his character in the book after Nagato but he didn't wanna call him Nagato but he was eating ramen at the time so Naruto's really named after Ramen. It's Kish's running joke that Naruto loves ramen to much.

Also how can Saukra love Naruto when she loves Sasuke? Sakura told Naruto that she loved him and Naruto turned her down. He knew she had feels for Sasuke and he'd start to develop feelings for Hinata. This evident by when Kiba comes to the battle he teases Naruto about Hinata.

You had good foreshadowing but it could be in a different place.
I agree with everything except anything Kiba says doesn't qualify as proof for anything. Haven't you ever experienced being teased by your mom about someone of the opposite *** hard enough to make it awkward or make you blush?

Kiba might be having fun regardless of whether he detects feelings or not which is why it doesn't qualify. Kiba could be one of THOSE people. He could even be doing it just to mess with Hinata because he's saying those things IN HER PRESENCE.
 
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First off I will blow your mind. Narutos symbol on his stomach is the opposite symbol of the Haruno clan.

That said, the part about Narutos seal opening, and starting to look like Haruno symbol was lame and waaaay off xd

but rest was ok, though I don't think your idealism, about Sakura gaining a major role, will come true. You need to see it with uncolored glasses :) Kishi never meant more for Sakura really. He said it himself in interviews :shrug: she is just an ordinary girl, with a really big heart (and forehead).

To me all the symbolism here seems rather random. In general the Haruno symbol is pretty random.. It's 2 circles.. Anything circular can resemble it. But Kishi might have gotten the idea from that mixed uzumki/haruno symbol u showed, but might mean nothing.

The fact that her parents are unknown is, however, a bit weird. I think they are just ordinary people, so Sakura is probably not meant for a bigger role, than what she already have. At least IMO, there are no foreshadowed facts here. U_U
 

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No, you overlook too much things. I'm sure Kishi didn't even pay attention of details like that(he isn't the type of autor who likes details) and doesn't even know what you are talking about, but nice effort though
 

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No, you overlook too much things. I'm sure Kishi didn't even pay attention of details like that(he isn't the type of autor who likes details) and doesn't even know what you are talking about, but nice effort though
I agree with you. He probably wasn't 100% sure how the series would even end when he drew that outfit for sakura.
 

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Yea i would call you crazy... crazy in love with sakura lol
anyways u have good eyes .. although, i cant see what making naruto and sakura related would bring to the story.
 

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So....sakura...is the So6p? Your conclusion was not a conclusion. It was just a picture you showed earlier? Also when drawing anime it makes sense to draw certain things similar as it is easier. Also the belly thing...thats the source of chakra, so it will always come from there.
 
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