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That scan actually shows that Sasuke knows about his Rinnegan abilities if anything it shows him telling Naruto it's one of his abilities he don't seem surprised at all
Sasuke absorbs the chakra
Sasuke: This is one of the Rinnegan abilities ....

It shows you that Sasuke did not know he could perform this ability, until he actually performed it. Kishimoto portrays that with Sasuke's monologue about it.

I mean who do you think Sasuke was talking to? You think he was explaining it to Naruto as if he was some copy-cat villian who explains his techniques before he does it? :l
 

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Sasuke absorbs the chakra
Sasuke: This is one of the Rinnegan abilities ....

It shows you that Sasuke did not know he could perform this ability, until he actually performed it. Kishimoto portrays that with Sasuke's monologue about it.

I mean who do you think Sasuke was talking to? You think he was explaining it to Naruto as if he was some copy-cat villian who explains his techniques before he does it? :l
No it doesn't. This is one of Rinnegan abilities" he said that while absorbing Naruto's chakra he didn't or look surprised at all unlike when he learned amaterasu on the fly.
How do you know that? He could put that to show that even if kurama give Naruto chakra he can absorb it. Not to mention he said he gotten use to his Rinnegan during the war so it wouldn't make sense for him to be surprised about preta at all.
 

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I. Because you are stating that it is possible when the manga rebukes that idea completely. Not to mention Viz Scan Kurama implies something totally different, but not totally off.

II. Not a chance. Madara only activated PP when Jinton was enhanced by Tsunade's chakra. There was no before or after, it happened right at the exact time. Mind us, that Madara was not near any Susano'o's when the blast radius hit.
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Tsunade's chakra ftw.

III. Exactly. Sasuke knows nothing about his Rinnegan.
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Kishimoto stated that because Sasuke needed a reliable way to keep his Revolution idea looking far less stupid than it already did. Already proved that Rinnegan's immortal theory was tested by a Rinnegan/Indra transmigrate Uchiha same as Sasuke. Nothing implies that Sasuke has more knowledge of his Rinnegan than Madara did.

So, yeah.
He doesn't say anything different at all. He talks about how Sasuke can't use both at the same time and uses the words "newly awakened" to tell the reader that it's only for that reason. Like I said before, the sentence would have worked the same had you taken those words out, and there would be no reason for Kurama to worry if it wasn't possible.

That scan alone makes every other previous scan against PP+ninjutsu useless.

I don't even know what you're arguing about anymore, for Madara anyway.

Sasuke has immortality. If you don't like it, go to Kishi and explain to him how he's wrong.
 

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He doesn't say anything different at all. He talks about how Sasuke can't use both at the same time and uses the words "newly awakened" to tell the reader that it's only for that reason. Like I said before, the sentence would have worked the same had you taken those words out, and there would be no reason for Kurama to worry if it wasn't possible.

That scan alone makes every other previous scan against PP+ninjutsu useless.

I don't even know what you're arguing about anymore, for Madara anyway.

Sasuke has immortality. If you don't like it, go to Kishi and explain to him how he's wrong.
Impossible like I stated. If you don't like it, go to Kishi and explain to him why PP has never shown the ability to use ninjutsu and PP at the same time.

Exactly. There is no proof stating it works, so now you can quietly rest in peace.

Read back a few pages.

I already rebutted against this a few times. If you don't like how the Rinnegan works in terms of immortality, take it up with the manga. Because right now, the manga > assumptions :coffee:
 

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Impossible like I stated. If you don't like it, go to Kishi and explain to him why PP has never shown the ability to use ninjutsu and PP at the same time.

Exactly. There is no proof stating it works, so now you can quietly rest in peace.

Read back a few pages.

I already rebutted against this a few times. If you don't like how the Rinnegan works in terms of immortality, take it up with the manga. Because right now, the manga > assumptions :coffee:
Do you not understand that Kurama said it was possible? It doesn't matter if there are no feats when it's already stated to be possible. Seriously, you keep arguing for feats when we have something just as credible.

No proof? You're the one who posted the proof.

I am saying that the manga is right. Sasuke said he has immortality, so he does.
 

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Do you not understand that Kurama said it was possible? It doesn't matter if there are no feats when it's already stated to be possible. Seriously, you keep arguing for feats when we have something just as credible.

No proof? You're the one who posted the proof.

I am saying that the manga is right. Sasuke said he has immortality, so he does.
I. Show me a scan of it working. Because Kishimoto never implied wrong information before. Have you even read the viz translation though? You absolutely have NO manga proof that Preta Path has been used with Ninjutsu.
Human path? Debunked
Susano'o? Manga scans or no?

II. Yeah, I already proved you wrong a few times now. You're running dry on your comments here.

III. Yeah and I'm sure Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage too.
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The point is, is that you have nothing to base your claims, besides Kurama's word. Which in fact, PP, does not even work the way Kurama described. I already collected enough manga scans to prove you wrong, which I have posted countless times.

Honestly the only thing you have said for this entire debate is that "Kurama" said so. Which is irritably disappointing. Go ahead and gather your factual information on the debate, and I'll wait here. If not, carry on.
 
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Do you not understand that Kurama said it was possible? It doesn't matter if there are no feats when it's already stated to be possible. Seriously, you keep arguing for feats when we have something just as credible.

No proof? You're the one who posted the proof.

I am saying that the manga is right. Sasuke said he has immortality, so he does.
I've read this entire conversation, and I've come to the conclusion that you are an idiot lol.
 

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PP drained his senjutsu once here:
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Then Naruto absorbed more natural energy, activated sage mode (check his eyes), PP then absorbed this new senjutsu.

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Next page PP turned to frog, and then later stone from this new senjutsu and the old senjutsu.
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All this happened in roughly 5 pages..
Naruto didn't activate sage mode. His eyes are a clear sign of Natural energy being absorb.. Safe mode changes Naruto's pigmentation around the eyes, not the eye lids. I can't link the earlier pages of his training because I'm on my phone..

Naruto even states "natural energy is hard to control". Back up by the data book.
 

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Naruto didn't activate sage mode. His eyes are a clear sign of Natural energy being absorb.. Safe mode changes Naruto's pigmentation around the eyes, not the eye lids. I can't link the earlier pages of his training because I'm on my phone..

Naruto even states "natural energy is hard to control". Back up by the data book.
Scan literally shows that.....

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Naruto's senjutsu drained the first time and the lose of pigmentation around his eyes.
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Change around the eyes due to entering sage mode.
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The gradual lose of the new senjutsu Naruto made, due to PP.
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I thought you was above the name calling Indra..
What?

Like I feel sorry for him man. He completely ignores what the other guy states, and then implies he is right by a single manga panel which contradicts everything that the ability has shown to do thus far? Would you not call that stupid XD

Btw that's not my name
 

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Naruto didn't activate sage mode. His eyes are a clear sign of Natural energy being absorb.. Safe mode changes Naruto's pigmentation around the eyes, not the eye lids. I can't link the earlier pages of his training because I'm on my phone..

Naruto even states "natural energy is hard to control". Back up by the data book.
He did activated Sage Mode, and Natural Energy appeared, if the pigmentation weren't here, it's because he desactivated the Sage Mode (7th panel)
 
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