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That's pretty much the reason why Madara said he couldn't absorb it, because he was outside of Susanoo.

Found the scans. As you can see, Madara was not in a Susano'o.
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Madara was just standing there like a boss while his clones did the work.
 

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Dear god.

Naruto was in sage mode in the beginning

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>in sage mode
>says preta path is absorbing his sage chakra

and later building up senjutsu chakra inside his body as shown by the sage markings appearing. Every sage mode user has to mix natural energy when taking it inside otherwise they themselves would turn into stone.

You don't even know the basic of sage mode

The scan you yourself posted says naruto's senjutsu chakra has been absorbed, blind much?

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Telling me to take my advice, thats cute, not only do you need to learn to read you need to work on your comebacks

Are you serious lol?? Lol when did Preta path begin to turn in stone?? After it absorb ALL OF NARUTO's Sage chakra.. Then Naruto started absorbing natural energy>>>> NATURAL ENEGRY.. Naruto even states NATURAL ENEGRY IS HARD TO CONTROL. While Preta path was turning into stone..

Blouses

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Found the scans. As you can see, Madara was not in a Susano'o.
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Madara was just standing there like a boss while his clones did the work.


Madara didn't have his Susanoo on the battlefield?
 

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I'll have to look around for that. I found the translations on NB/NF



Nope only his clones did, the real Madara was watching with his arms crossed until the Tschuikage attacked him
Lol then the statement makes no since...
 

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Lol then the statement makes no since...

Right? He was probably mentioning that his clones /w Susano'o affected his absorption? It is very clear that he was not in Susano'o, and it was very clear that he mentioned the Susano'o affected the PP ability.

Kishimoto is just very unclear with his explanations and abilities. Remember when both Naruto/Sasuke got the RIkudou powerup and people thought that the seals held their powers? lol

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Are you serious lol?? Lol when did Preta path begin to turn in stone?? After it absorb ALL OF NARUTO's Sage chakra.. Then Naruto started absorbing natural energy>>>> NATURAL ENEGRY.. Naruto even states NATURAL ENEGRY IS HARD TO CONTROL. While Preta path was turning into stone..

Blouses

Don't need comebacks when I'm right.

Sage mode uses natural energy. Senjutsu is natural energy mixed with the user's chakra, it has to be mixed correctly also. Not sure if you didn't know that.
 

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Sage mode uses natural energy. Senjutsu is natural energy mixed with the user's chakra, it has to be mixed correctly also. Not sure if you didn't know that.
It had to be mix correctly to enter sage mode.. Naruto was not in sage mode when PP was taking his chakra and turn to stone.. Why is that so hard to understand?
 

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It had to be mix correctly to enter sage mode.. Naruto was not in sage mode when PP was taking his chakra and turn to stone.. Why is that so hard to understand?

DHOH i'm logging out for the day. Later man.

@Anyone else too.

Just PM if you want to continue this convo
 

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It had to be mix correctly to enter sage mode.. Naruto was not in sage mode when PP was taking his chakra and turn to stone.. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because he drained his senjutsu.....

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Actually PP absorbed his senjutsu twice, the latter part turned him to stone. Also Naruto was in sage mode when PP absorbed his senjutsu. Naruto even says he's absorbing his senjutsu.
 
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Because he drained his senjutsu.....

He drain his Senjutsu two or three pages before he turn into stone.. PP didn't turn into stone until after Naruto start gathering more natural energy..
 

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He drain his Senjutsu two or three pages before he turn into stone.. PP didn't turn into stone until after Naruto start gathering more natural energy..

PP drained his senjutsu once here:
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Then Naruto absorbed more natural energy, activated sage mode (check his eyes), PP then absorbed this new senjutsu.

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Next page PP turned to frog, and then later stone from this new senjutsu and the old senjutsu.
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All this happened in roughly 5 pages..
 
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The manga contradicts itself many times. Hell even remember the Totsuka/Yata Mirror information, when Orochimaru escaped too? I remember that being a plot hole back in the day. There are more though, I would just have to trace back to my thread about it if you were interested in all the plot holes in the manga.

Exactly. That's why when Sasuke said he could possibly achieve immortality, he was not sure. He thought he could do anything, but Madara are gave us the answer on immortality with the Rinnegan. It is only possible when hooked up to that.


Exactly why it's a weird subjective answer. Because Madara implied that the Susano'o hindered his ability to absorb the chakra, yet his body was not in contact or engulfed by the Susano'o at all.

Have Kurama's words been contradicted withing the last 2 chapters? No. Therefore all of the contradictions you're talking about don't matter.

Sasuke says he can achieve immortality, so he can. He said it with assurance as a separate option from reincarnation. This isn't even related to the topic though.
 
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Have Kurama's words been contradicted withing the last 2 chapters? No. Therefore all of the contradictions you're talking about don't matter.

Sasuke says he can achieve immortality, so he can. He said it with assurance as a separate option from reincarnation.

I. Yeah it contradicts the manga when everything proven before that does not exist.
II. No, you are far from incorrect here.
"Sasuke says he can achieve immortality"
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"I'll surely be able to find some way"

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"Reincarnation ability immortality, ... I have numerous options"

The problem with both those statements is Madara found a way to become immortal, the same way Sasuke thought he could achieve. Except, Indra had left Madara and found Sasuke at some point in time, which also conflicts Sasuke's theory in which he thinks he can become immortal. So, yeah, what are you stating again?
 

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I. Yeah it contradicts the manga when everything proven before that does not exist.
II. No, you are far from incorrect here.
"Sasuke says he can achieve immortality"
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"I'll surely be able to find some way"

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"Reincarnation ability immortality, ... I have numerous options"

The problem with both those statements is Madara found a way to become immortal, the same way Sasuke thought he could achieve. Except, Indra had left Madara and found Sasuke at some point in time, which also conflicts Sasuke's theory in which he thinks he can become immortal. So, yeah, what are you stating again?

Immortality in this manga is highly debatable. Only kaguya has really obtained Immortality as she was alive since the beginning, while all other "immortals" have died.
 

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Immortality in this manga is highly debatable. Only kaguya has really obtained Immortality as she was alive since the beginning, while all other "immortals" have died.

Exactly. This guy thinks Sasuke can become immortal ... based on what? Hagoromo had the Rinnegan, where is his immortality lol? Sasuke doesn't even have the other Half of Hagoromo's power - Body (aka Senjutsu).

He is incomplete, just as Naruto is incomplete without a Rinnegan. Sasuke was merely talking out of his ass there in assumption of what he could do because he gained the power of a God. Same as Naruto.
 

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Exactly. This guy thinks Sasuke can become immortal ... based on what? Hagoromo had the Rinnegan, where is his immortality lol? Sasuke doesn't even have the other Half of Hagoromo's power - Body (aka Senjutsu).

He is incomplete, just as Naruto is incomplete without a Rinnegan. Sasuke was merely talking out of his ass there in assumption of what he could do because he gained the power of a God. Same as Naruto.

As I said to others, feats are the only things that matter, hypothetical powers are at best assumption and it's up to kishi to allow it. Many of great theorists and their theories were debunked for kishi's way.
 

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As I said to others, feats are the only things that matter, hypothetical powers are at best assumption and it's up to kishi to allow it. Many of great theorists and their theories were debunked for kishi's way.

Amen U_U
 
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