Wait, so Human Path and Susanoo were being compared or something? Even though Susanoo's workings is vastly different than Human Path? Not even sure why Human Path being used with Preta Path is being used. Unless I'm reading it wrong.
HP works by physically touching and absorbing a target's soul. The path isn't really casted out as opposed to Susanoo or other ninjutsu. Susanoo casts out a
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for defensive and offensive purpose. I can't see how using HP is prove that other techniques can be used along with PP.
Wait, so Human Path and Susanoo were being compared or something? Even though Susanoo's workings is vastly different than Human Path? Not even sure why Human Path being used with Preta Path is being used. Unless I'm reading it wrong.
HP works by physically touching and absorbing a target's soul. The path isn't really casted out as opposed to Susanoo or other ninjutsu. Susanoo casts out a
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for defensive and offensive purpose. I can't see how using HP is prove that other techniques can be used along with PP.
It wasn't. Nagato caste a PP shield above Naruto's chakra arm rasengan while he proceeded to use human path on his chest. So they were implying that for example, but it also stated that most of the Path technique(s) are not really Ninjutsu abilities. As Sasuke performed the Petra Path with almost zero chakra in his system.
Then we come into the icebreaker Kurama who in the Viz Scan implies that it could have been possible. So it's really Kurama's word =/= Manga right now. Imo.
> The manga never shows PP using used with ninjutsu. Show me the manga scans?
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The manga has never shown the ability of PP used in conjunction with other ninjutsu abilities besides Human path. Mind everyone that Sasuke utilized a Petra Path when his chakra was already too depleted.
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> Databook already disagrees with you DHOH as you wanted: PP cannot be used or other techs (besides Paths) due to the principle of reverse chakra flow.
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So is anyone going to show me a scan of PP being used with Ninjutsu? Because apparently Kurama stated that his Rinnegan isn't new and it isn't putting out his ninjutsu at the same time, yet they can't decipher if it means "Putting out the technique" or "Releasing". Not to mention, Kurama became a Rinnegan master overnight.
Because the one that used Preta Path couldn't control Sage chakra,(if you are talking about Nagato's path.) That is why he turned to stone, this is a common fact. You would get a completely different outcome if Madara absorbed it, oh wait I think he did didn't he? he absorbed Hashirama's Sage chakra, but oddly enough he didn't turn to stone. Simply because he knew how to control it, simple as that really.
Because the one that used Preta Path couldn't control Sage chakra,(if you are talking about Nagato's path.) That is why he turned to stone, this is a common fact. You would get a completely different outcome if Madara absorbed it, oh wait I think he did didn't he? he absorbed Hashirama's Sage chakra, but oddly enough he didn't turn to stone. Simply because he knew how to control it, simple as that really.
The jutsu cause the body chakra circulation to flow in reverse, sucking away the jutsu of the target.. The absorbed chakra disperses in side the body, and the power is sucked away as if into a bottomless swamp
Every jutsu regardless of its chakra properties is sucked away and rendered ineffective
So when someone says "it has a limit"' I'll say 'bottomless swamp'.
When someone says "it can't absorb Naruto's super omega resengan", I'll say 'sucks away every jutsu'.
When someone says "can't absorb sage chakra or he will turn to stone", I'll say 'every jutsu regardless of chakra properties is sucked away and rendered ineffective...
Shirna Tensei:
Invisible hand of God, that repels anything in creation!
Pain Tendou uses this jutsu, utilizing the generated from the users hands repulsive (gravity) force to repel targets away. The number of targets that can be repelled and their size are irrelevant. In addition by stopping the utilization of other Pain paths the amount of chakra put in the jutsu, its strength and area of effect can be greatly increased. With one strike of its power entire Konoha no sato (Konoha village) was turned to smoldering ash. But after this jutsu has been triggered there is a small five second window it can't be used again. The originating repulsion force generated by the power of all creation”shinra obiki” (something that binds all together,so likely gravitation) forces its targets to collide together with a great force and put out additional damage, combined together with the initial force (shock wave) it puts up even more damage. Only those who can manipulate all chakra transformation properties (seishitsu) legendary “Rinnegan” wielders are allowed to posses this jutsu that has all rights to be called “crystal-perfect”.
Picture: Its repulsion force is so strong that even ninjutsu and taijutsu are equally ineffective against this jutsu
Please don't come with Nagato weakens state and weaker chakra to compare what Sasuke could do with this jutsu..
Databook facts, not some assumptions and opinions..
Senjutu worked against preta the same way it did against onmyouton because they are the same properties. Basically like using a diamond to cut a diamond.
I do get it, what do you think sage chakra is? its natural energy. You can't absorb sage chakra without absorbing nature enrgy. In your op you said sage chakra, which is nature energy. I simply said that it has been proven already that IF you can't control nature energy you turn to stone. Nagato's path absorbed nature energy yes, which is sage chakra. He couldn't control it so he turned to stone. Madara on the other hand was capable of controlling it so he didn't turn to stone after he absorbed Hashirama's sage chakra.
To me it seems like you are treating Sage chakra and nature energy as two different things, but as far as I am aware they are the same thing.
> The manga never shows PP using used with ninjutsu. Show me the manga scans?
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Thing is, you do.
The manga has never shown the ability of PP used in conjunction with other ninjutsu abilities besides Human path. Mind everyone that Sasuke utilized a Petra Path when his chakra was already too depleted.
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> Databook already disagrees with you DHOH as you wanted: PP cannot be used or other techs (besides Paths) due to the principle of reverse chakra flow.
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So is anyone going to show me a scan of PP being used with Ninjutsu? Because apparently Kurama stated that his Rinnegan isn't new and it isn't putting out his ninjutsu at the same time, yet they can't decipher if it means "Putting out the technique" or "Releasing". Not to mention, Kurama became a Rinnegan master overnight.
I don't because Kurama already said it would have worked if Sasuke had been more experienced. Just like I don't need a scan of Sasuke being immortal.
That statement alone would contradict whatever that user was saying.
Susano'o already used the paths, Preta isn't going to be exempt from that. Manga>user.
I don't because Kurama already said it would have worked if Sasuke had been more experienced. Just like I don't need a scan of Sasuke being immortal.
That statement alone would contradict whatever that user was saying.
Susano'o already used the paths, Preta isn't going to be exempt from that. Manga>user.
Just wanted to make everyone clear: DHOH, LeSauce, etc I'm not stating that Kurama is wrong in which PP cannot absorb Ninjutsu while it's using ninjutsu abilities. What I'm saying to you both, or more, is that PP has never shown the ability to DO SO. That's the argument here. Anyway.
See that's exactly what I meant Sparks. It's almost as if, Kurama was implying that Sasuke could of put out his own ninjutsu, and absorbed Naruto's Rasengan. Instead of ultimately clashing with them together. That's what I got from the gist of his understanding of the Rinnegan's abilities in that terms of absorbing and "putting out".
Also for your immortality scam. You do realize that it involves the death of Sasuke, in turn he becomes an old ass man hooked onto the Manzou, right? lol
In order for Preta Path to absorb Naruto's Sage chakra Naruto needs to be in sage mode.. He isn't. Naruto was absorbing Natural energy but wasn't mixing it with his own, while Path was absorbing it. Since Preta Path is not a sage it can't mix natural energy and its chakra, that is how it was turn to stone..
I do get it, what do you think sage chakra is? its natural energy. You can't absorb sage chakra without absorbing nature enrgy. In your op you said sage chakra, which is nature energy. I simply said that it has been proven already that IF you can't control nature energy you turn to stone. Nagato's path absorbed nature energy yes, which is sage chakra. He couldn't control it so he turned to stone. Madara on the other hand was capable of controlling it so he didn't turn to stone after he absorbed Hashirama's sage chakra.
To me it seems like you are treating Sage chakra and nature energy as two different thinsgs, but as far as I am aware they are the same thing.
Naruto needs to be in sage mode to have sage chakra right? Preta path absorb noting but natural energy from Naruto, not natural energy mix with Naruto's chakra.
Already established why PP and Human path is a thing, so that's irrelevant now.
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Also for your immortality scam. You do realize that it involves the death of Sasuke, in turn he becomes an old ass man hooked onto the Manzou, right? lol
You just said the manga was wrong. The manga. Sure, you say didn't, but then you go and say that since it hasn't been shown it's not possible, and go against the manga.
When the manga says something can happen, then it can. Neither you, nor anyone else can change that.
Really? I wasn't aware Sasuke knew about that, nor was I aware he said anything about how it could be done.
In Indra defense the Manga has contradicted itself before in the past... Although I don't think this is one of those times, the manga didn't say rinnengan can't use Ninjutsu while using a path ability. It was just assume, also it's another reason why a skill ninja with Rinnengan is second to none.. IMO.
Just wanted to make everyone clear: DHOH, LeSauce, etc I'm not stating that Kurama is wrong in which PP cannot absorb Ninjutsu while it's using ninjutsu abilities. What I'm saying to you both, or more, is that PP has never shown the ability to DO SO. That's the argument here. Anyway.
Not true by long shots. The manga has supported claims since day one, showing double negatives or by the changing of the plot. Things have been said that should of happened, but never did. We are talking a manga written by Kishimoto here. Logic in his world usually only applies if he remembers it (joke).
The same reason why you cannot prove that PP was used with ninjutsu other than paths. Because the Manga already shows how Immortality works with the Rinnegan:
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The Rinnegan can sustain him to live longer past the limit of usually expectations, but it's not going to affect his overall body to the point of sustaining a youthful appearance/physique. So again, the manga states one thing, but the Manga also answers your question.