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Hashirama and Naruto Disagree. And that is why it only worked on Kabuto.... that is called the storyline. Don't see me saying Itachi solo'd Kabuto...

"supposedly important cast"..... which cast? In part 1 theme was around team 7 also. When in Part 1 were other shinobi given time, when it wasn't about Team 7? hardly ever. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT TEAM 7. NOT ABOUT K11.

"focus on clans".. yes the same focus he had started in part 1... with the Uchiha genocide.

Minato was called a genius.. and he is a genius....

I agree man , i just have my problems in different stages of the story .

lee did went super saiyan in part 1 , but hasn't in part 2 : What sup with that 0_o ?
 

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Lol part 1 kabuto stomped Tsunade

Jiraiya couldn't beat no hands oro.

So powerfull...

nice try :heh: except for the part where jiraiya got DRUGGED, the fact that some of oro's abilities doesn't require handseals and kabuto planning/trapping/tricking tsunade and using pills to boost his abilities (plus the info oro provided him) so .......................... try something else/this wasn't effective enough ;).
 
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I agree man , i just have my problems in different stages of the story .

lee did went super saiyan in part 1 , but hasn't in part 2 : What sup with that 0_o ?

Watch it be some surgical restriction X_X. I'd be so pissed of.
 

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We were eventually going to get here.

We all know it, and anybody that questioned this for a second is way too optimistic.
 

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Hiruzen fight usually is an example of this excuse, but here people fail to realize, Hiruzen HAD to end it quickly. If he had started to show off, he would've been killed without stopping the Hokages.

I agree he had to end it quickly, But even then the anbu watching stated it to be a kage level battle. So an Old hiruzen who was stated to be nothing compared to his prime was still able to put on a kage level fight without even trying to show off?.

Even though that actually helps hiruzen, I can't really see that being the case.

Even so, Part one tobirama was praised for using a suiton tech with no source of water, Yet in the current war arc even nameless fodders can do the same.
 

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I only watched the chuunin exams, but you are probably right.
 

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ninja afterall.



Neither did i..... I simply prefer to watch adults fight more then Children. And you simply prefer to watch Children fighting..



Nice way of being selective my turn now.

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Itachi's Tsukiyomi was really the only time such a "1 shot" ability happened like that, in part 1.

Part 2 you see this much more, such as: FRS, Enton/Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi, KA, Deidara's C0, Meteor, Ninja who can push villages apart, Susnano'o, Totsuka, TBB, etc.

The difference is, we're seeing much more God like abilities in part 2 vs. part 1, that is undeniable and if Itachi's 1 time use of Tsukyomi is your only argument that nothing has changed then lol.

None the less, it's still a damn good Manga/Anime.
 
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Hiruzen and pupils, regarded as the most puissant [Part-1], lack qualification to combat Madara's ability to employ gravitational force to bring a celestial object upon the planet [Part-2]

*Comparison of Omnipotent in Part-1 to Part-2

 

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A perfect example of this is Hiruzen, those using that excuse for him. You simply can't compare him to Hashirama, when he could only last 3 chapters against the two weakened Hokage who were toying with him. Especially when Hashirama was stated to make the Gokage's cumulative efforts look like nothing on more than one occasion by the only one who experienced the true extent of his power.
 
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