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[Clouds]

It was clear from the beginning that Kishi was using his own definition of ninjas, unless you can show me traditional real-life ninjas crippling minds, summoning giant animals, being out in the open, creating lightning, manipulating earth and water, launching wind attacks and breathing fire.

At that time they were actually comparable they could die from simple things like kunai's and stuff like that.
But now they are throwing mountain busting attack at eachother. :l

 

[KingHashirama]

They were pretty hardcore children though

ninja afterall.

I didn't mean power wise. -_-

Neither did i..... I simply prefer to watch adults fight more then Children. And you simply prefer to watch Children fighting..

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[Child Of The Great Empire]

Peh. I still like Part 2 more.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

i have to disagree bro U_U.

in part2 you have SHINOBI's flying, super sayans, enormous god like creatures (PS / wood dragon) that can destroy mountains in one swing, i thought that creating a valley from that fight was OP enough but this .................... mountains in one swing ................... really kishi ??

let me ask you this, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW SOMEONE THROWING A KUNAI ?? ya that SHINOBI lethal tool .................. i miss the good old days.

first it was starting to look more like DBZ and now kishi decided to throw a bit of ONE PIECE in there with the fruits and all, how original.

 

[Javaweb]

Part 1 was like go guys you could do it. Like believe it and whatnot and I'm gonna get stronger. Leaf

Part 2 was like woah they get stronger and drama. Making adult decision. Going against strong ninjas in any village and getting more powerful

I don't know if you get what I mean

 

[take it easy]

Part 1 : Ninja skills

Part 2 : Be overpowered or GTFO, poor yamato.

Part 1 : Ninja skills and owerpower

Part 1 : Ninja's

you see ninja with water manipulation, chidori, magic eyes or big animals summon?

 

[ballerjordan]

I respectfully disagree. In part1 the ninjas fought with Kunaius and B rank elemental techniques, now they are using oneshot shits like Susanoo, Kamui, Amaterasu, Shinshusenju, FTG, Izanami, Sage Mode, etc.

Do you honestly expect Genins using strong techniques -------massive facepalm-------

 

[awesomeseimei]

Hm, now that I think of it, a ninja is "someone who endures", right? That's pretty much the whole definition. Nothing is said about them needing to be stealthy and all to be called that. So saying that "It's not ninja stuff anymore" applies only if you picture a stereotypical stealthy ninja; Naruto series don't define ninja this way, so everything still fits :hooray:

 

[Chīkara]

Since Sasuke obtained susano'o it all went downhill.

-Naruto spamming 1000 of Oodama rasengans at once.
-Madara using meteors. (And outfight EVERY fodder)
-Sasuke spamming enton all over the place.
-Godlike Koto Amatsukami.
-1 shotting izanami.
-Instant juubi sealing.
-Obito becoming GODLIKE.
-a TREE sucking up chakra and blitzing around.

 

[KingHashirama]

i have to disagree bro U_U.

in part2 you have SHINOBI's flying, super sayans, enormous god like creatures (PS / wood dragon) that can destroy mountains in one swing, i thought that creating a valley from that fight was OP enough but this ....................

let me ask you this, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW SOMEONE THROWING A KUNAI ?? ya that SHINOBI lethal tool .................. i miss the old days.

Last time I saw someone throughing a kunai? Just about couple of chapters ago.. when Minato was gonna reveal his new jutsu =]

I wonder where those tools were , when Itachi solo'd kakashi.

Kishimoto has his own definition of Shinobi..... Pirates don't have powers.. guess what in One piece they do. Shinigami don't have the abilities of the sun.. in Bleach they do. .

Hm, now that I think of it, a ninja is "someone who endures", right? That's pretty much the whole definition. Nothing is said about them needing to be stealthy and all to be called that. So saying that "It's not ninja stuff anymore" applies only if you picture a stereotypical stealthy ninja; Naruto series don't define ninja this way, so everything still fits :hooray:

Naruto series would be the most boring series.. C_C.

 

[Punk Hazard]

At that time they were actually comparable they could die from simple things like kunai's and stuff like that.
But now they are throwing mountain busting attack at eachother. :l

Would you rather see them chuck metal at each other for a half hour each episode, or what we have now?

 

[-Punk-]

In part one almost everyone could beat anyone .

& In part two if you weren't from a clan , Jinchuriki , eye power , one shot techs or a High class Motafvcking organization , you didn't stand a chance .

 

[Javaweb]

You had to use your brain and not many OP techniques *cough* Sasuke MS /EMS*Cough* *Cough* KCM/BM/BSM/ Naruto/ Rinnegan/EMS Madara / SM hashirama / DSM Kabuto/ BM Minato/ Juubito *Cough*

I know the opposing side now like they like it when the seniors fought in part 1 like Tsunade vs Orochimaru, Kakashi vs Zabuza etc. But the Leaf Village already had those powers but had to progress

 

[Clouds]

Would you rather see them chuck metal at each other for a half hour each episode, or what we have now?

I rather have part 1 where you don't need overpowered jutsu's 2 win... :l

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

THERE IS NO POWERSCALE CHANGE.. The SCALE ITSELF IS STILL THE SAME. Its only that in Part 1, we did not get to see any of the Kage/Sanin/Akatsuki level ninja go all out. So stop making this excuse, to justify something or defend your character.

Kishi obviously changed his mind otherwise it would have been mention at least 1 ****ing time during those 400 chapters that Hashirama and Tobirama weren't at full power or that Hiruzen wasn't the God of Shinobi nor the strongest kage of his generation nor the strongest Hokage because it was Hashirama / Onoki

obvious retcon is obvious... you must be a blind fanboy to not see it

 

[KingHashirama]

In part one almost everyone could beat anyone .

& In part two if you weren't from a clan , Jinchuriki , eye power , one shot techs or a High class Motafvcking organization , you didn't stand a chance .

And then noone could even touch Itachi..... And then you had the 3 Sanin, without going full power being on anotherlevel then any other shinobi..

Wasn't Itachi "UCHIHA" the one who solo'd Kakashi? wasn't it sasuke UCHIHA the one that was called A genius? . Care to explain me the difference that got into the clans?

Kishi obviously changed his mind otherwise it would have been mention at least 1 ****ing time during those 400 chapters that Hashirama and Tobirama weren't at full power or that Hiruzen wasn't the God of Shinobi nor the strongest kage of his generation nor the strongest Hokage because it was Hashirama / Onoki

obvious retcon is obvious... you must be a blind fanboy to not see it

Though Tobirama stated, "This time you brought us back at nearly our full power"

And then Kishimoto also, stated that Hashirama's powers had become a fairy tale .. people didn't believe they were real... hence why he justified Hiruzen being called the God of Shinobi once upon a time.... He wasn't the god of shinobi anymore when he faced Orochimaru.

Also the Strongest Hokage hype is manipulated by you fans... the manga says "SAID TO BE".. it is only a rumour... and opinion of people...

 

[Chīkara]

In part 2 you are only strong if you are blessed as : Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki, Jinchuuricki ( only 8 and 9 tails)

The rest got all troll blitzed.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Naruto series would be the most boring series.. C_C.

Yeah, lol, a series about people sitting in hiding for hours xd

 

[Chīkara]

And then noone could even touch Itachi..... And then you had the 3 Sanin, without going full power being on anotherlevel then any other shinobi..

Wasn't Itachi "UCHIHA" the one who solo'd Kakashi? wasn't it sasuke UCHIHA the one that was called A genius? . Care to explain me the difference that got into the clans?

Lol hiruzen was called ''God of shinobi'' in part 1. Look him now. foddering around.

 

[Punk Hazard]

At that time they were actually comparable they could die from simple things like kunai's and stuff like that.
But now they are throwing mountain busting attack at eachother. :l

You guys don't get the point of progression in Shonen manga. The thing is, in Shonen, it starts off like that and is supposed to increase in power as time goes, because villains increase in power, which keeps the story interesting. This is what you signed up for reading a Shonen manga. Now enjoy it.