No, I used those examples to show that the Admirals are capable of generating the same level/scale of offensive power as Yonko. I'd also be hard-pressed to say that Kuzan freezing Doffy's body and a few meters of the ground is on the same level as freezing miles of ocean.
I'm not engaging with yo goofy ass fam
I'm not saying they aren't on a comparative level though I'm just saying nothing has shown lately that 1v1 they'd be able to beat a Yonkou(captain). And I still argue the manga showing all 3 Admirals taking shots at WB during MF AND the statement "1v1 bet on Kaidou" to be implications the Yonkou Captains are stronger than an Admiral in a 1v1 scenario. Akainu and Aokiji are on the same level/scale but one ended up beating the other.
Even if Aokiji does manage to freeze Big Mom or Kaido, its not like he can shatter them to pieces afterwards right? If he freezes them and then attempts to shatter them then all he would be doing is simply setting them free?
No I would say like Jaguar D Saul IF he's able to freeze you then you'll shatter but I don't think he could actually freeze BM or Kaidou like he did Luffy or Saul since it seems he was unable to do so with Doffy.
He mentions to Luffy that someone who's frozen can be shattered, and Jozu lost his arm because he fell down and the ice broke. If he manages to freeze BM and Kaido thoroughly enough, it could theoretically work.
of coz if u compare all of yonko military forces combined then they got a better side since vice admirals doesnt seem like they are at top commander level. may be some of them are bt dnt know. so shichibukai kind of helps to balance it out. BTW WG is a different case. i think WG's power as a whole with CP , advanced weaponry (like pacifistas or SSG) and marines plus shichibukai power clearly triumphs over even the combined mighty of yonko IMO
well i didnt tell u that he was attacking luffy . he was fighting with marco at that certain point. and the bold part is false. how can u compare how much time he had in just one panel. one time we saw akainu and marco clashing and in the next panel WB was already behind akainu. and this is raged WB for all we know. we dnt even know how fast raged WB can react. like i said previously if u move much faster even advanced CoO is pointless at some point. and considering Oda didnt had the best concepts of haki at that time. him colouring haki in black came in later point of the story. so in fact we really dnt know if oda really had any intention to show us how CoO worked at that point of the story. he more likely showed us how an enraged WB would look like. if u use common sense this was the last chance for WB to show how monstrous he was. the guy was gonna die at the end of the arc. so it would be such a pity and bad writing if WB got mid diffed by admirals ganging up on him. bt if u want me to argue then its lame from WB coz the only time he had an advantage over akainu was when he sneaked him from back
first of all he got two enraged attacks. where the latter split MF in half. so i dnt think even WB can keep using his greatest attacks left and right for so long. if anything when BB appeared right after that WB couldnt use his island splitting attack again. coz i dnt see any reason why he wouldnt use it again if he could on BB. the fact he couldnt use it again shows that he attacked with everything he's got when he wanted to kill akainu. i dnt think at that point he felt any sympathy towards akainu after he killed ace right in front of him. and how do u know kaido got the highest durability? coz he got harder skin than any other? so far durability wise akainu got the best feat. so i'll probably wait before making assumptions on kaido since so far he didnt tank any hit at a scale of an island splitting
which again proves how wrong u are. BB pirates were considered a yonko crew after defeating marco and the crew. same happened with luffy after his fight with katakuri .so they were recognized as emperors. the fact is both BB and luffy still got room to improve bt the world already recognize u as an emperor level pirate. so how can u say they arent on yonko level when they are already recognized as one. the thing is even yonko tier u are speaking of hv different levels same with admirals. just like BB and luffy, fujitora is still on his way of improvement .he most probably would only hv to master his DF since he most probably mastered his haki prowess already. otherwise i dnt see any reason y world military draft appointed him as an admiral if he wasnt already strong enough. just like sabo was no 2 of Revo even before receiving mera mera no mi. even akainu probably got his haki improved after his long ass battle with aokiji bt that doesnt mean he wasnt admiral tier previously or now he past that level since he could improve. so fujitora having room for growth doesnt mean he is already not on yonko level like how BB or luffy since both of them can still improve a lot bt still they are called in the same league
u still argue as if fujitora actually needed to stomp luffy and capture him. the guy even bowed his head to luffy to show his gratitude for saving the country from doffy which wt fujitora needed to happen. u think BM or kaido had any intention of showing their gratitude towards queen or luffy when they attacked them? LOL its funny how u even compare those different situations. and for marco unlike luffy or queen he got a hax DF which heals himself. he probably got the best tanking ability of all commanders. he tanked akainu,garp,kizaru thanks to his DF and its healing power. so saying BM or kaido would stomp him like how they did to queen and luffy is all but assumptions. u may not remember bt BM couldnt stomp jinbei when they faced each other like how she did against queen. so does that mean jinbei is better than queen? so that give u an answer. different characters got different abilities and ways they can handle things. BB would be the worst enemy of marco since he negate his DF power. akainu no diff ace who was a top commander bt we know the DF advantage he had against ace.so results differ in different match up. outcome would be the same bt the time required or difficulty wouldnt be the same always even if u are a tier above them
i think i already addressed abt this previously. how yonko arent limited with order and law so they can rampage whenever they want which help[s them to make a name or title for themselves . the same nature and freedom garp kinda had and he could even act like since he was a vice admiral. so pirates making a name to themselves is already obvious
we dnt even know how he got beaten and who beat him up. so far we truly know nothing abt z to even compare him with garp. so its probably pointless to argue abt him.
Lol coming from the troll of the base it’s hilarious
The warlords and the ssg didn’t exist at the same time but no the marines needed external help to even the yonko was my point. The full might of the WG is unknown but we know the marines are weaker as a unit compared to the collective yonko.
which is obvious with lack of vice admirals to even out top commanders of yonko. got nothing to do with yonko vs admirals
@bold LOL wt? when did i say that. as WB was the one going down in that arc its obvious he gets far better treatment compared to others. even now kaido will most probably go down in wano arc. so he will get his time to shine more than anyone in this arc. all the hype is there to make it up for it. from narrators view of point its pointless to focus on characters thoroughly (apart from main ones) if he can focus on them later on. on WBs case that was the last time he had to shine. and oda did a good job on that. its not abt complaining abt plot bt rather we as readers can understand writers motives and his reasons behind them as to why he did this or that on particular moments of the story. probably the actual reason why any of the top tiers like garp,WB,sengoku,admirals and even mihawk werent allowed to go all out since wt kind of narrator will reveal so much at just the half way through his own story. which is y i think MF battle isnt a good one to argue abt
which is y i said akainu's two lethal attacks on him did their parts. WBs strength dropped massively after he lost his half of his face. and also doesnt change the fact that WB's raged attacks were aimed to kill akainu on the spot bt he failed in doing so. sure fighting enemy after enemy WB was getting weaker there is no denying that. all i said was akainu's attacks were the most lethal ones he received. which is not a bad thing since WB still had his strength to some what help his allies to get away. if anything else it shows how monstrous WB is. akainu eating 2 attacks from WB and WB eating 2 attacks from akainu and both of them still didnt go down actually helps both of them IMO
the answer is right there in bold. he never intended to do so compared to the likes of kaido and BM. u are actually comparing an admiral who trolls in a certain arc vs a yonko. bt i agree that he doesnt got hype as much as kaido or BM. and kaido did all that when he was serious which i never saw fujitora being so far so there is nothing to compare at all
yp he got monstrous level of physicality there is no denying any of that. bt wt im saying is we dnt know the length of it so far. like how far can he take on. we for now know the only time kaido got injured was through enma. lets see if that attack oden performed with enma is greater than wt WB used against akainu which he split MF in half to get a grasp of how much can kaido take
garp was exceptional not only becoz of his strength bt also how fixated he was on fighting roger and pirates which u can get the same vibe from akainu from current generation. while marines like sengoku or may be even kong probably didnt got the motivation as much as garp. if u compare to the current generation kizaru or aokiji dnt have the same urge akainu had, to fight pirates. i think that personality is also a main factor wt helps them to make up a name for themselves. and just like i previously said admirals cant go rampage on islands as they pleases like how yonko would do. which is y they wont be able to make titles for themselves. even garp who was an exception only got 'hero of marines' as a title instead of 'strongest marine' or so. and lets not talk abt z as we know next to nothing on him
