Possibly the Most Contriversial Theory EVER! O_O

[Knightuchiha]

i read the whole thing.
i appreciate all the work you must have put into it but i dont think its really all that posible.
there is simply too much evidence and proof that that the senju were good and the uchiha were bad

 

[Hipster Madara]

Madara and Mito? naww

hashirama and mito doesnt look that good together either...

 

[MrSharingan]

Very well could be. Throughout this story so far we keep seeing some of these so-called 'bad guys', were actually trying to do good but were just perceived evil because of the way the went about it .
So vise versa wouldn't be that big of a stretch.

 

[~Yubel~]

Let me tell you something, all the time i heard about the hokages and the will of fire, i never viewed the first and second as good guys, they just didn´t seem like it. We know Madara is evil but atleast he´s honest about it.

 

[Baka Sennin]

Hashirama's cells explains that.

could be that he's senju and transplanted sharingan though. he blocked a strike from the kirobochou with one arm and snapped torune's neck with his bare hands, he's clearly very strong.

tobi has yet to be seen with his sharingan deactivated, and he kept one covered up.. maybe to prevent chakra loss? plus, his izanagi would still be lengthened if he's senju with the sharingan, instead of uchiha with senju dna.

plus danzou had trouble controlling hashirama's dna, i can't believe tobi can do it easily when he's at least a generation older than him.

 

[Champion Uzumaki]

How do you think Tobi is able to use that level of Space time travel ? and kakashi can barely make something dissapear. would a senju really be able live for this long?

 

[MissShakra]

wow...+ rep for sure. you have really thought this out and it sounds great. i hadnt exactly considered the idea that the senju could be the bad guys...but then again, despite their methods of going about bringing peace, the akatsuki and naruto have the same goal, just different ways of handling the situation. it could very well be that the senju maybe were evil or at least very power hungry. i love the idea of Tobi being a senju with a implanted sharingan, that would explain how the freak he knows all the stuff he does about the jinns and weakness times, about the history of the uchiha, about itachi, almost everything (kushina's birth, think about it...he could have simply found out by using sarutobi's wife, but this def be a alternate explanation to how he knew when to try and grab the fox) manga chapters 499 thru 503 i believe hold a ton of clues (it seems) but i just cant quite pinpoint what they are possibly foreshadowing (i mean to who Tobi is and stuff) anyways great job! im glad everyone is being respectful and not flaming.

 

[I Am Anonymous]

Sorry, too lazy to read it all :shrug:

 

[dareak]

At first I thought that your theory could be true and that Tobi could be a senju. But then I realized, Tobi was in league with Madara to do the Moon Eye plan since he mentioned that right as he was resurrected. He was also planning for Tobi to train Nagato so he can ressurect Madara. Which means that Tobi was allied with Madara, completely contradicting that Tobi lied about all that history he gave us, and your theory.

+Rep for awesome theory nonetheless

I glanced through, saw the phrase Madara was good and then I stopped

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I'm no expert, but this in no way looks like good guy behavior to me

It actually seems like Madara was the warmonger. Which is also said by Tobi before.

seems possible, ive thought about this b4, but not to this depth. + rep even though it is a bit crazy, but hey, its kishi afterall

@ guy that said madara doesnt look nice
maybe (according to theory) hashirama was trying to make the villages fight each other so by scaring them off, madara thought he was doing the right thing. itachi didnt look nice either, what he did to sasuke...

Yeah but Madara was actually breaking the treaties the villages had, so he was the one causing war there.
Itachi didn't look nice in a different way, he was ordered to stop a civil war. While what Madara did was by his own choice.

What made me start thinking about it was some post on NB. "Why would Tobirama make something like Edo Tensei?"

If you consider what I'm saying, it's possible that Hashirama was alive at the time because Oonoki was talking about something he said. Perhaps Madara thought that Hashirama was simply using the stone village for his own devices, and so decided to stop it right there. Or it could be that Hashirama was dead and they were comming to check the status of their alliance, which Madara still thought was manipulative and evil, and so Madara said no. It would also explain why he tells Oonoki to not say his name around him.
So what if he thought Hashirama was manipulative and evil? How could an alliance be bad? It seemed like Madara just wanted to make war. He didn't want to hear his name because he thought that he himself should be Hokage.
Another thing I forgot to mention when it comes to Madara being good is to NOT MENTION ANYTHING HE DOES AS AN EDO!!! Ninja who were known to be good are bad as Edo's so he ressurected actions can't be counted towards "he's bad".
None of the good ninja said something bad while they were edo they still had their free will to speak unless Kabuto specifically focused on them. Well his actions couldn't be counted because Kabuto made all the Edo's fight no matter what. But it seemed like Madara was doing all of it of his free will. He was just chatting with Kabuto and when Kabuto asked him to show his mighty abilities he agreed and went to his fun.
Thank you, man. appreciated.

O_O good on you. thanks for reading over it, and tbh, as I wrote it out, I said to myself "I'm so going to get flammed... O_O"

thak you, and it seems we both took care of that issue.

if you read into my post, you will see that Tobi can easily be a Senju. you will also see that people didn't tend to see these men as "bad" individuals (Danzo and the elders, for instance; probably the other Senju). this would explain that.

Also I was about to start pointing out some of the flaws in the whole post but then I realized Tobi couldn't be a senju. So if you still want me to respond to it more directly then tell me.

 

[blazekev90]

I don't really remember anyone saying they were good guys, they just founded the villiage and were known as the 1st and 2nd. They weren't bad guys, they just established things as they saw fit, since nt was too concrete than anyway. These generations know nothing about the 1st and 2nd, I'll say anything is possible but we can't categorize them as being good or bad IMO.

 

[Psyho]

Hmm interesting theory, there is things i interpret different, but overall good job. It will go under "Possible, but HIGHLY improbable." in my memory bank

 

[XxSpectrexX]

I really like your theory, i took the time to read it all and it does make alot of sense. I took some time to think about it and Tobi being a senju would make sense. It was a very well thought out and put together, and given the fact that naruto has made alot of interesting and unexpected twist, your theory could work. Way to go. I could add in more to help from different chapters and such as well as different opinions if you would like. I could post them or send you a message.

As far as it goes way to go, im very impressed.

 

[yomomma]

wow. this may be the best thread ive ever read. if this is true, this is beyond mind ****