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I've been thinking about this possibility for a while, starting with Tobirama, but I think I can even extend it to Hashirama. Now, before I begin, I know this may sound perposterous, but please don't simply flame this without giving it serious thought. What if, and I'm just spit-balling here, the first and second Hokage's were not as great as we think they are? Now, in order for any of this to work, Tobi's history lessons he gives numerous characters at random must be correct (as this is most of the history we have). Now, they were great leaders, I'm sure. But then again, so was Napoleon Bonapart, Julius Ceaser, and Adolf Hitler (do you see where I'm going with this?).
Now, let's first examine
Tobi's history makes it look like the Uchiha were the bad guys, but I believe that Hashirama could be the bad guy here; trying to eradicate the Uchiha clan because he feared his own position. I have more on why he might not be the greatest guy ever, but I'll come to that in a minute.
Now, Hashirama also came into possesion of a scroll containing numerous kinjutsu. Isn't it a little funny that he "finds" this scroll, and his brother develops Edo Tensei? I personally think that Hashirama developed the techniques in that scroll, and in order to keep his face as the good guy, he's told everyone that he somehow discovered this scroll. Hashirama developed these techniques as a way to keep his power at a great level, and kept them in a place where they could be found again for future Senju to use if the Uchiha revolted (I mean seriously; Hashirama supposedly sealed the scroll away, but then an acadamy twerp like Naruto get's a hold of it? Something's not right there!).
Another thing I thought about when considering Hashirama was his collection of Bijuu. He gave these powerful creatures away in order to try and prevent conflict, but instead, he fueled the great powers of the First Shinobi World War. If you consider what I'm trying to say here, Hashirama may have started that war on purpose; trying to eliminate the other villages so he can become the greatest unapposed. Now, he gave away Bijuu to the other four great nation capitals (Sunagakure, Kumogakure, Kirigakure, and Tsuchigakure, in acending tail order), but he also gave a beast to Takigakure (Waterfall Village; where Fuu and Kakuzu are from). What if Takigakure saw through Hashirama's plans, and so sent their strongest ninja, Kakuzu, to try and kill off the ill-elected dictator (might be a little strong, but stay with me). Hashirama was then later killed by Madara in a sneak attack on solely Hashirama. Madara was then about to step in when Hashirama's brother came into play.
Edo Tensei was what first got me thinking "You know, everyone's wondering why a Hokage would develope a technique like Edo Tensei. But no one ever said that every Hokage was good." I then even considered Tobirama being Tobi because of the unknown Space/Time jutsu, but then had to disregard it due to his ressurection via Edo Tensei against the third. But this part on Tobirama also leads into another part of this theory, which involves
Now, everyone considered them criminals due to their actions against the second Hokage and Raikage. Considering the theory I'm presenting before you, these brothers started out as highly respected ninja who simply saw through the rouge Tobirama was putting on. They were determined to kill off the tainted leader of the Leaf, and the best way to do this was when he was near; during a peace treaty with the Raikage. But they would have to kill the Raikage as well, as it seemed that no one noticed the corruption of Konoha's leaders. After their failed attempt to kill Tobirama, Kinkaku's loyal squad, whom believed his thoughts on Konoha's leaders, went on to finish the job at hand; killing the corrupt Tobirama. The one thing in this theory that doesn't add up is why Tobirama gave his life to save the six kids if he was corrupt. But then again, he could've been planting seeds into Hiruzen's head about what to do when he became Hokage. Hiruzen wasn't corrupt, I wouldn't say, but Tobirama may have tried.
Now, taking this theory into consideration, when the elders were deliberating a new Hokage, they thought of Kakashi. But then they went through the teachers (
Now, after going over that, we come back to Madara (everything relates back to him.... -_-). This makes Madara the good guy. And here we have a triangle; Hashirama, Madara, and Mito. This trio is very simmilar to two other triangles seen already; Kakashi, Rin, and Obito, and Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura. Taking what we know from these other two triangles, I compare Madara with Obito, and Hashirama with Kakashi. Madara was in love with Mito Uzumkai, just like Obito and Rin. One day, Madara was trying to save Mito, and Hashirama simply left them (considering my theory, and histroy repeating itself like it has). Hashirama then shows up, and all Mito sees is Hashirama saving her. She then falls in love with Hashirama, and Madara's hatred towards the Senju grows.
Not only is Madara a good guy, but the whole Uchiha clan were good guys, and the Senju were the bad guys. This completely flips how we view the history of Naruto! This means that the elders orders for Itachi to kill of the Uchiha clan was finalizing what Hashirama, and possibly even Tobirama, started. Hashirama was always cautious of the Uchiha, and after his death, his superstisions spread to Danzo and Hiruzen's other two advisors. They were just as tainted as Tobirama himself, and so had Itachi perform this mission behind the back of the uncorrupt 3rd Hokage, Hiruzen Sarutobi.
Now, after finally nearing the end, I want to look at Tobi (just like Madara, everything revolves around Tobi). Tobi makes it seem like the Uchiha were the bad guys, and the Senju the good guys. Now, this could be just to make Sasuke angry to manipulate him, and to keep his story straight to keep Sasuke as his pawn, but what if it was more personal than that? What if Tobi was a Senju clan member whom insterted Sharingan into his eyes (he has a mass storage of them for some reason; it also explains his ability to use Izanagi). His being a Senju would put him at a natural disposition towards the Uchiha, and would make him want to defile their name. And now that we know Madara was just a name Tobi took on, this Tobi theory holds a little more water.
Now, after getting all of that out of the way, I'll summerize my theory, and my reasons why I think it is. Please note, I write longer things to weed out the ADHD 12-year-olds who don't have the intention-span or maturity to take time to read and consider all of this.
Thank you for taking time to read and possibly consider this. I've been working out for a while how to write it all down like this, as I'm better at a Q&A type of theory explination. So if there are any questions, now would be the time to share them!
And if you want to argue it, please make it an intellegent argument (with links, if possible). I don't want trolls and flammers making themselves look bad, and through that, making people not take this seriously (or as serious as you can take a thought on a fictional series).
Now, let's first examine
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. Now, in this time, every village was just starting, and so there was presumably a lot of tension amoung nations. The Leaf would've wanted the strongest shinobi to lead them, and the strongest shinobi was Hashirama (like how Julius Ceaser came to power). Now, looking at Narutowiki, we see that Madara left the village because he feared Hashirama would oppress the Uchiha clan. What if this was not fear, but simple observation? He knew that Hashirama wanted the Uchiha out of the way, and so decided to challenge him to a fight for the title of Hokage. After realizing that he could not win, Madara settled for taking some of Hashirama's DNA for later experimentation (
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), planning to come back and defeat Hashirama.Tobi's history makes it look like the Uchiha were the bad guys, but I believe that Hashirama could be the bad guy here; trying to eradicate the Uchiha clan because he feared his own position. I have more on why he might not be the greatest guy ever, but I'll come to that in a minute.
Now, Hashirama also came into possesion of a scroll containing numerous kinjutsu. Isn't it a little funny that he "finds" this scroll, and his brother develops Edo Tensei? I personally think that Hashirama developed the techniques in that scroll, and in order to keep his face as the good guy, he's told everyone that he somehow discovered this scroll. Hashirama developed these techniques as a way to keep his power at a great level, and kept them in a place where they could be found again for future Senju to use if the Uchiha revolted (I mean seriously; Hashirama supposedly sealed the scroll away, but then an acadamy twerp like Naruto get's a hold of it? Something's not right there!).
Another thing I thought about when considering Hashirama was his collection of Bijuu. He gave these powerful creatures away in order to try and prevent conflict, but instead, he fueled the great powers of the First Shinobi World War. If you consider what I'm trying to say here, Hashirama may have started that war on purpose; trying to eliminate the other villages so he can become the greatest unapposed. Now, he gave away Bijuu to the other four great nation capitals (Sunagakure, Kumogakure, Kirigakure, and Tsuchigakure, in acending tail order), but he also gave a beast to Takigakure (Waterfall Village; where Fuu and Kakuzu are from). What if Takigakure saw through Hashirama's plans, and so sent their strongest ninja, Kakuzu, to try and kill off the ill-elected dictator (might be a little strong, but stay with me). Hashirama was then later killed by Madara in a sneak attack on solely Hashirama. Madara was then about to step in when Hashirama's brother came into play.
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was actually the first Hokage I thought of being a bad Hokage. Almost nothing is known about this man, except that he had an unknown Space/Time technique, could summon water from nowhere, and developed Edo Tensei. He also set up different organizations such as the ANBU, Chuunin Exams, the Acadamy, and the Konoha Police Force. Now, it has been speculated (by Tobi) that the Konoha Police Force was made up of, primarily, Uchiha members. This was supposidly meant to strengthen the tie between the Uchiha and Senju, but ultimately was saw by the Uchiha as a way to moniter them; that they were untrusted by the Hokage and this made them angry. Fueled by Tobi's words, the Uchiha began to realize that Tobirama was not a great leader. Edo Tensei was what first got me thinking "You know, everyone's wondering why a Hokage would develope a technique like Edo Tensei. But no one ever said that every Hokage was good." I then even considered Tobirama being Tobi because of the unknown Space/Time jutsu, but then had to disregard it due to his ressurection via Edo Tensei against the third. But this part on Tobirama also leads into another part of this theory, which involves
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and
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. Now, everyone considered them criminals due to their actions against the second Hokage and Raikage. Considering the theory I'm presenting before you, these brothers started out as highly respected ninja who simply saw through the rouge Tobirama was putting on. They were determined to kill off the tainted leader of the Leaf, and the best way to do this was when he was near; during a peace treaty with the Raikage. But they would have to kill the Raikage as well, as it seemed that no one noticed the corruption of Konoha's leaders. After their failed attempt to kill Tobirama, Kinkaku's loyal squad, whom believed his thoughts on Konoha's leaders, went on to finish the job at hand; killing the corrupt Tobirama. The one thing in this theory that doesn't add up is why Tobirama gave his life to save the six kids if he was corrupt. But then again, he could've been planting seeds into Hiruzen's head about what to do when he became Hokage. Hiruzen wasn't corrupt, I wouldn't say, but Tobirama may have tried.
Now, taking this theory into consideration, when the elders were deliberating a new Hokage, they thought of Kakashi. But then they went through the teachers (
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). Kakashi was taught by the fourth; the fourth was taught by Jiraiya; Jiraiya was taught by the third. The third is frowned upon in the eyes of Danzo, and therefor, the fourth as well. We know for a fact that Danzo wasn't the best Hokage ever, and nothing is said during that meeeting about the first or second. Danzo believed that he could be the greatest Hokage, and that the first and second were people to base his reign on. The third and fourth were good Hokages, along with the fifth, but Danzo believed that he should be more like the first and second.Now, after going over that, we come back to Madara (everything relates back to him.... -_-). This makes Madara the good guy. And here we have a triangle; Hashirama, Madara, and Mito. This trio is very simmilar to two other triangles seen already; Kakashi, Rin, and Obito, and Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura. Taking what we know from these other two triangles, I compare Madara with Obito, and Hashirama with Kakashi. Madara was in love with Mito Uzumkai, just like Obito and Rin. One day, Madara was trying to save Mito, and Hashirama simply left them (considering my theory, and histroy repeating itself like it has). Hashirama then shows up, and all Mito sees is Hashirama saving her. She then falls in love with Hashirama, and Madara's hatred towards the Senju grows.
Not only is Madara a good guy, but the whole Uchiha clan were good guys, and the Senju were the bad guys. This completely flips how we view the history of Naruto! This means that the elders orders for Itachi to kill of the Uchiha clan was finalizing what Hashirama, and possibly even Tobirama, started. Hashirama was always cautious of the Uchiha, and after his death, his superstisions spread to Danzo and Hiruzen's other two advisors. They were just as tainted as Tobirama himself, and so had Itachi perform this mission behind the back of the uncorrupt 3rd Hokage, Hiruzen Sarutobi.
Now, after finally nearing the end, I want to look at Tobi (just like Madara, everything revolves around Tobi). Tobi makes it seem like the Uchiha were the bad guys, and the Senju the good guys. Now, this could be just to make Sasuke angry to manipulate him, and to keep his story straight to keep Sasuke as his pawn, but what if it was more personal than that? What if Tobi was a Senju clan member whom insterted Sharingan into his eyes (he has a mass storage of them for some reason; it also explains his ability to use Izanagi). His being a Senju would put him at a natural disposition towards the Uchiha, and would make him want to defile their name. And now that we know Madara was just a name Tobi took on, this Tobi theory holds a little more water.
Now, after getting all of that out of the way, I'll summerize my theory, and my reasons why I think it is. Please note, I write longer things to weed out the ADHD 12-year-olds who don't have the intention-span or maturity to take time to read and consider all of this.
- Senju Hashirama- Hashirama was an undesireable leader in terms of leadership, chosen for his strength and abilities. Hashirama then oppressed the Uchiha, causing Madara (the real good guy) to flee, challenging him later for title of Hokage. After losing the match, Madara took some of Hashirama's DNA, and left to become stronger, leaving the Kyuubi to be sealed into Hashirama's wife and Madara's long time-crush, Mito Uzumaki. Hashirama supposedly "found" a scroll of kinjutsu, but I believe that he might've created those justu (like his brother did Edo Tensei). He also supposedly sealed it away, but then Naruto somehow got it before begin Genin. Hashirama also supposedly collected Bijuu and gave them out to stop war, but his true intentions may have been to start war. The villages whom accepted the tailed beasts and tried to gain power became to five major villages, but Takigakure knew Hashirama's intentions. So they sent their best ninja, Kakuzu, to kill off the evil Hashirama. Kakuzu failed, but his explains how Takigakure has a Jinchuriki without being a major village, and why Kakuzu was fighting Hashirama.
- Senju Tobirama- The first person I thought of being a corrupt village leader, Tobirama created the eccursed jutsu Edo Tensei; which messes with life and death. There is almost literally nothing known about him, except for Edo Tensei, water expertiece, and an unknown Space/Time tech. He also developed many organizations, such as the police force speculated to be a way to moniter and oppress the Uchiha. Kinkauku and Ginkaku saw through Tobirama's evil intents, and tried to kill off the corrupt Hokage. They failed and were labbled as criminals. But Kinkaku's loyal squad went to finish off what their leader had started. Tobirama then gave his life, thinking he had corrupted Hiruzen enough to be his replacement, but it turned out that Hiruzen lead a good reign.
- Shimura Danzō- Danzo was as corrupt as Hashirama and Tobirama, and noticed the difference in Hiruzen's rule and the first and second Hokage's. He belived that they had it right, and so waited in the shadows while the next three, good Hokages, Hiruzen, Minato, and Tsunade, took over. He then took his chance, stealing away the title from Kakashi in order to restore the type of rule the Senju brothers had. Danzo, the one Hokage with this type of known reign, is the base of how bad Hashirama and Tobirama may have been. Prior to his rule as 6th Hokage, Danzo and the other elders then finished what the first two Hokage's started; the Uchiah massecure.
- Uchiha Madara- Madara was a good guy, and the one who loved Mito Uzumaki. He resented Hashirama for ending up with Mito, and for oppressing the Uchiha clan. Madara being the good guy makes the other Uchiha's the good guys, and the Senju the bad guys (this completely changes how we view the Naruto world!).
- Masked-Man Tobi- If you consider my theory, and how Tobi makes the Uchiha look like the bad guys, then Tobi is likely a Senju with Uchiha eyes (explaining Izanagi). Tobi actually doesn't tie into this too much, now that I think about it.
- Long-Awaited Conclusion- We see that this theory explains why a Hokage would make something as accursed as Edo Tensei; how Hashirama "found" his scroll of kinjutsu; why Takigakure has a Jinchuriki, despite not being a major village; why Kakuzu was attacking Hashirama; why Kinkaku and Ginkaku tried to kill Tobirama and the Raikage; why the squad chasing Tobirama was the Kinkaku force; why the Konoha Police Force was used to oppress the Uchiha; why Danzo was such a horrible Hokage; why Tobi talks about the Uchiha negativly while he was supposedly Madara; and that my mind is a scary place. O_O
Thank you for taking time to read and possibly consider this. I've been working out for a while how to write it all down like this, as I'm better at a Q&A type of theory explination. So if there are any questions, now would be the time to share them!
And if you want to argue it, please make it an intellegent argument (with links, if possible). I don't want trolls and flammers making themselves look bad, and through that, making people not take this seriously (or as serious as you can take a thought on a fictional series).
