Possible Plot Twist?

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So, knew the seal to release the Edo Tensei, but if there's such a technique to release Edo Tensei, why didn't Tobirama use it after he was revived when he wanted to go to war but was restricted by Orochimaru. I mean, he was the one who created Edo Tensei.

Or, may it be that only Orochimaru made this seals to release Edo Tensei? But if it's like this, how could Madara know it?
 

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But Tobirama and the others are moving on their own accord right now, right?

Or am I misunderstanding your thread?
 

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Erm, where's that possible plot twist the title talks about?
 

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But they are moving on their own accord, right?
He'd stay Edo even he'd release the jutsu. Basically, releasing Edo Tensei doesn't mean you're not an Edo anymore, but you're just not being controlled.

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Erm, where's that possible plot twist the title talks about?

I'm meaning why Tobirama didn't use the release to release Edo Tensei.
 

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He'd stay Edo even he'd release the jutsu. Basically, releasing Edo Tensei doesn't mean you're not an Edo anymore, but you're just not being controlled.



I'm meaning why Tobirama didn't use the release to release Edo Tensei.

I just remembered as I was posting. I edited it, as you can see.

EDIT: Also, as it has been said, this is no plot twist.
 
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He'd stay Edo even he'd release the jutsu. Basically, releasing Edo Tensei doesn't mean you're not an Edo anymore, but you're just not being controlled.



I'm meaning why Tobirama didn't use the release to release Edo Tensei.

Do you not know what a plot twist is..? v_v
 

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I think you meant plothole? Anyways, Tobirama actions are somewhat restricted. I think Orochimaru is keeping him from specifically using the seals to release himself, he knows Tobirama would be able to release himself but probably prevents him from doing so. If anything, Tobirama should tell Hashirama the seals so he can break the contract.
 

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Erm, where's that possible plot twist the title talks about?



I think not.
Plothole, plot twise, whatever, that's not important at all.
I'm saying that, Tobirama was restricted from leaving the Uchiha Shrine room when he wanted to go to the war, so, if there's a release way for Edo Tensei, why didn't Tobirama use it at that moment. I also think that Orochimaru either fully blocks their personalities, or just leaves them free. He can't know when Tobirama would use the release seals to block him.

What I'm asking is whether it is a plothole that, besides Tobirama being the creator of Edo Tensei, he didn't know the seals to free himself of it unlike Madara.
 

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Plothole, plot twise, whatever, that's not important at all.
I'm saying that, Tobirama was restricted from leaving the Uchiha Shrine room when he wanted to go to the war, so, if there's a release way for Edo Tensei, why didn't Tobirama use it at that moment. I also think that Orochimaru either fully blocks their personalities, or just leaves them free. He can't know when Tobirama would use the release seals to block him.

What I'm asking is whether it is a plothole that, besides Tobirama being the creator of Edo Tensei, he didn't know the seals to free himself of it unlike Madara.

If you're going to make a point in a thread, using the right terms is important.

Madara freed himself when his movements weren't restricted, which would explain why Tobirama couldn't free himself when Orochimaru had control over him.
 
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Plothole, plot twise, whatever, that's not important at all.
I'm saying that, Tobirama was restricted from leaving the Uchiha Shrine room when he wanted to go to the war, so, if there's a release way for Edo Tensei, why didn't Tobirama use it at that moment. I also think that Orochimaru either fully blocks their personalities, or just leaves them free. He can't know when Tobirama would use the release seals to block him.

What I'm asking is whether it is a plothole that, besides Tobirama being the creator of Edo Tensei, he didn't know the seals to free himself of it unlike Madara.

Don't trick people then even accidentally.

I lost 10 precious seconds of my life.
 

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Reason why he didn't release ET, was because Orochimaru made him an ET. So only Orochimaru could release him, if he made himself Edo Tensei which is impossible cos he was dead, or made someone else edo tensei then he could release him.
 

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The Hokage are still under Orochimaru's control, except for Hashirama.

Orochimaru didn't create the seals, he studied them.

Tobirama created the Edo Tensei, but who knows when?

Maybe Madara was alive when he made it, and he taught it to him as a sign of trust before he left the village.

Hashirama knew about it so it was made before Hashirama died.

And Tobirama can't just weave signs and escape, he has to wait until it's released, then perform the signs to break the contract on his end.

Hashirama only escaped because his power is just overwhelming and was probably too much for Orochimaru to control all the Hokage at once.
 

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The plot twist he's talking about: Orochimaru is gonna say, "F**K that! Hermit Art: Dragon Trance!" Then Madara's gonna be like, "Nah......F**k outta here with that..." And kill Oro. O.O
 

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Don't trick people then even accidentally.

I lost 10 precious seconds of my life.
Haha "precious" and there was no intention of using a tricky word.
I looks indeed like Tobirama was restricted from escaping. This is the only way it makes some sense, though it still doesn't explain why he didn't use the signs after Orochimaru stopped him from leaving, just to make sure.
 

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Haha "precious" and there was no intention of using a tricky word.
I looks indeed like Tobirama was restricted from escaping. This is the only way it makes some sense, though it still doesn't explain why he didn't use the signs after Orochimaru stopped him from leaving, just to make sure.

Life is precious.
 

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ermmm.. how to put this.. what i understand is, after kabuto release the jutsu(under the influence of izanami), the actual risk lies in during that time... its where the edo's have full control of their body,... the risk is when the edo know that jutsu well,they can rewrite the edo tensei contract themselves... correct me if im wrong.. just my 2 cents
 

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ermmm.. how to put this.. what i understand is, after kabuto release the jutsu(under the influence of izanami), the actual risk lies in during that time... its where the edo's have full control of their body,... the risk is when the edo know that jutsu well,they can rewrite the edo tensei contract themselves... correct me if im wrong.. just my 2 cents
I'm not talking about the Edo Shinobi, but about the Edo Hokages, who hadn't their personalities blocked.
 

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Plothole, plot twise, whatever, that's not important at all.
I'm saying that, Tobirama was restricted from leaving the Uchiha Shrine room when he wanted to go to the war, so, if there's a release way for Edo Tensei, why didn't Tobirama use it at that moment. I also think that Orochimaru either fully blocks their personalities, or just leaves them free. He can't know when Tobirama would use the release seals to block him.

What I'm asking is whether it is a plothole that, besides Tobirama being the creator of Edo Tensei, he didn't know the seals to free himself of it unlike Madara.

madara freed himself when edo tensei was being undone.
I think he redid the edo tensei.. not undo the contract with kabuto, that's what kabuto did, but madara redid it and thus has a edo contract with himself.
 

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if you are asking why tobirama couldnt break control of edo tensei, its because back then when he was with oro, he was being controlled. only hashirama could free himself but tobirama couldnt because of senju, or more correctly hashirama chakra being used by oro. As for his defense, Tobirama was walking around and gathering chakra whereas hiruzen and minato just stood still. That shows tobirama's power

Madara is from the olden days along with hashi and t-rama as well as a founder of konoha. Its no wonder he knows about this justu.
 
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